Bonk Bonk Bonk!

[Smokey_locs2006]

man... I've read a few post and I wounder...wth could you guys have talked about for FIVE!! pages??

[WarxePB]

MIC
Then it's the same as recieving a PM, just with a quip for a name.

Yes, but PM's are not always effective. What if your box is full? What if you can't access the main page?

We did debate having it appear in the PM box, but we chose not to because of those two problems. The way it is now, bonks always get to their target, and they don't clutter up the PM box either.


Now, the system is still new, so there's still room for modification. We will probably add a page where you can view bonks, or maybe just a bonk count in the profile. Mods have the option of putting their name in the box, or they could simply just send a PM.

[Meiscool-2]

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
What if you can't access the main page?

You can still acess your profile and PMs at the top. I look about every 3 times I log in.

As to having your PM box full, I believe troubled Sir Kij invented a thread for that, and I check it pretty often because I tend to get flooded with PMs asking about coding and mapping. I'm sure others check it from time to time too.

[plightofthepureblood]

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Let me put it this way:

I don't CARE what you guys think about bonks. Alex made the system because we thought it would be a good idea, and unless you can prove DEFINITIVELY that it is a bad idea, we're not going to remove it. Whining and saying "This is gay" is not proof.

Yeah, guess that makes me a fascist. Guess that also makes Lord Raffles right - the mod team's just a bunch of Jew-hating fascists who have no life, so we pick on inferior regular members.

This is like the whole Troll Kingdom thing - the whole thing fell apart because you guys didn't like Saikar's idea. Which is fine - this is the free world - but none of the mod team's ever claimed that Charas is a democracy. You guys get some say in the decisions around here, but it's ultimately up to us to decide on them.

Say what you will, but know that it doesn't matter. And if you don't like that, deal with it. If you want to change it, go ahead and try. Replace Saikar with Meiscool, and we'll see how long Charas lasts.

Kijuki: If you've come here just to be a nuisance, don't even bother. We're not going to put up with any of your shit.

Seriously though...... Is this what you think of the other members?
Jerk. Phucked if Im posting any resources here anymore.


     I believe the flaw in this WAS proven, dear Moderators.


IF YOU HAVE TO RESULT TO THIS KIND OF A TACTIC,
YOU NEED TO EXAMINE WHAT FLAW EXISTS IN YOUR AUTHORITY TO NECESSITATE SUCH A POLICY, BEFORE IMPLEMENTING IT ON OTHER MEMBERS. BY UTILIZING THIS SYSTEM< YOU HAVE PROVEN THAT YOUR AUTHORITY IS ALREADY IN QUESTION, IF NOT NON-EXISTANT.


Obviously you dont give a phuck about what your members think. You obviously arent even taking our arguments seriously.....

But what the phuck good is a public forum, full of moderators, if all of the contributing members of the forum are belittled.

At least call it a warning system, and have the balls to show your face...If you arent showing your face, it just proves that youre all insecure with your position as a moderator.


How about Electing Mods? Ever give anyone that option? Like the temporary seats on the UN security council.....

You know, To benifit the rest of us, who arent moderators, and would maybe like some say in the forum?

This forum, in case you havent noticed, is based largely on artistic and intellectual properties....(and piracy....), and by doing this you have cheapened the efforts of every member here that has ever submitted a resource of their own....You are telling them that the community they are trying to involve themselfs in, dosent respect their rights, and thinks of them as little children, to be slapped on the bottom...."bonked"

[WarxePB]

Gem, don't try to become a martyr. If you really dislike how this forum is run, either do something about it or leave - don't just whine about what we do wrong.

EDIT: MIC - Yes, both of those measures have been taken. But just because you do it doesn't necessarily mean that everyone does - for example, if some newbie kicked a bunch of topics, they might not know how the PM system works, nor would they know about the Full Inbox thread. That's what I plan on using the system for - I'd like to think that you guys are mature enough to know when to keep your mouth shut.

[Meiscool-2]

Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
Stuff

Your opinion matters. Warxe is just having a problem with Kij. You understand how it is to be angry at one person and say things that you don't actually mean, correct? Picture that instance happening right now.

They do care about our input... though they don't show it in the best of actions and ways.

[I Have a Sandwich]

Then add names to it, and make it a fail proof warn! How hard is that to come up with! Put name, reason, examples, and behavior to correct IN A POLITE MANNER BEFITTING OF A MOD, not in a snide or rude manner as I have been given in the past.

[FFL2and3rocks]

 

How about Electing Mods? Ever give anyone that option?

Actually, that has happened before. Many of the mods who were modded that way were de-modded later because they did a crappy job. It was more like a popularity contest. "I like so-and-so, make him a mod!"

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

Originally posted by Meiscool
Dearest Kij:
I think you somewhat discribe the idea of being crazy, though you might not fully understand it.

You contradict yourself horridly, and odds are you realize it but don't care. However, it becomes difficult for you to prove anything when you're so hypocritical and you can't admit it, hence rather then being a 'voice' for whatever idea you are trying to persaude upon us, you become an annoyance that'd we'd rather not deal with.

Pls wehn u cum on den type lik dis it hard to take u seriouly 8D.

Internet'd, Meiscool.

I do understand it. It's simple. You do something a mod believes its bad, bonk. Hypocritical I don't know, no one has ever shown me compare and comparison of my "hypocritical words". Little less you will.

I admit I get too much into things, so much that I try to be one only speaking.

And excuse me, but this tool was to terminate annoyances while I was not here.

You can understand what I say. It is but what you need to get my point, if you do.

"Kijuki: And I am also speaking my opinion: I believe that you are trying to stir up trouble for the sake of stirring up trouble. What right do you have to tell me that I'M wrong when YOU'RE doing the same thing?"

The same right you have. Except that I made you say what i was saying was neutral, but now you are implying i am wrong again.

If I wanted to stir up trouble, I would already have made a thread, I plan to take leave as soon as I see this take ongoing form

Originally posted by MrMister

quote:

Originally posted by FFL2and3rocks quote: Originally posted by DragonBlaze Seriously, WHY should a mod have to HIDE their identity when they're pointing out the rules to someone? Let's say someone is being a jerk, and I send a PM to the person telling him to knock it off or whatever. The person reads it, and just thinks  "Pfft, it's just FFL, I don't have to take him seriously!" and continues what he's doing regardless. If you don't know who the mod is, then you can't just disregard it on account of not liking the particular mod who sent it for whatever reason.

The problem is, the only people I take seriously, don't go here anymore. So, I don't take bonks seriously. It's also sneaky, underhanded, and cowardly.

Agreed. Specially when you want "bonk bonk bonk" to be taken seriously.

"Then add names to it, and make it a fail proof warn! How hard is that to come up with! Put name, reason, examples, and behavior to correct IN A POLITE MANNER BEFITTING OF A MOD, not in a snide or rude manner as I have been given in the past."

^ Mod material

[plightofthepureblood]

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Gem, don't try to become a martyr. If you really dislike how this forum is run, either do something about it or leave - don't just whine about what we do wrong.

I would do something about it, but obviously I dont have any say.

you "Dont care"

Im not trying to become a martyr.....

Im TRYING to do something about it, but obviously you have no intrest in hearing what I have to say......

I dont know if you noticed, but Im online most of the time......
Ive got alot of down time right now.......For the next few months.....
Make me a Mod then.......And I can do something about it......

Since youve Illustrated that my opinions have no value, as a common member of the forums, I have no resort but to complain, and hope maybee one of you takes an OBJECTIVE look at what Im saying.

I dont like having my beliefs, and integrity belittled for the sake of upholding a public image of authority....

Why dont you, instead of being an ***hole, try to ask the more active members how they would handle your diminishing authority?
Try listening to the oh so valid points that are being brought up between the "this is ghey" and   "bonk...lolomfg" try not being an authoritarian jerk.

Seriously.


"I dont care what you guys think"


Thats no way to treat any of us, simply for voicing our opinion on a newly instated, nil discussed policy.

[Meiscool-2]

Well, for one you've said: "I don't care" quite a few times in past arguements, and now you claim that you're passionate about your debates... so that's one hypocritical thing I can think up on an instant.

Warxe: Didn't think about newbies and the PMing system. That's actually a good idea. I'm now for this bonk system... so long as we change the name to something that would be taken a bit more seriously... such as DIRE THREAT or INTENSIVE WARNING SYSTEM :p

[WarxePB]

Kijuki, I don't deny that you have your own cause, nor that that cause is wrong. You have every right to speak your mind - however, when you do that, you need to accept the consequences of your words. Some people will disagree with you - that's a fact of life, and you can't really do anything about it. Just as you are entitled to your own opinion, so am I, so is Gem, so is Meiscool, etc. etc. None of us are right or wrong, but we simply disagree with each other - it's life.

But back on topic. You guys are generally right - the system was not thought out properly before being implemented. However, we can always change that, and while we won't get rid of it, we will change it to be more... acceptable to you guys.

EDIT: I apologize to Kijuki, Gem and Meiscool for being rude. I was flaming you guys, and that is not a good example for me to set, so please accept my apology.
That being said, let's try to get past it, and decide how we should modify the system. If anyone has any suggestions, let's post them here.

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

Originally posted by plightofthepureblood


"I dont care what you guys think"


Thats no way to treat any of us, simply for voicing our opinion on a newly instated, nil discussed policy.

lol bonk.

I feel what you say. Because I agree.

"Kijuki, I don't deny that you have your own cause, nor that that cause is wrong. You have every right to speak your mind - however, when you do that, you need to accept the consequences of your words. Some people will disagree with you - that's a fact of life, and you can't really do anything about it. Just as you are entitled to your own opinion, so am I, so is Gem, so is Meiscool, etc. etc. None of us are right or wrong, but we simply disagree with each other - it's life.
"

When have I deny that? o.O and more over if you know this, why not start with this?

People do agree and people disagree, but you know that this isn't just a normal topic. This topic was made for ither of two reasons: to let everyone know , and/or to let people say what they think of it.

Hey if people agree with it, hooray for them. Almei thinks it will be good. Go almei! He's a good guy. I have always respected opinion but not opinions that get too personal like " we have decided to not take any crap from you".

And you know, I am just watching, and saying back to what people tell me. I ahve no problem with that. I have had debates the last days in other places, in this same "psychopathic" manner and we do get out of hand but we laugh at it. Don't paranoic, I came to say what people had in their minds and support that. I did throw some stuff i said back then, but stuff that has to do with what people are thinking.

If you feel offended, it isnt because I am trying to overthrow something. Heck, tell me right now if I am the only one saying this system sucks. Which is my general opinion.

[Black Massacre]

This topic is rearing for trouble and a lock.    

[plightofthepureblood]

Okay....posting the name of the mod is a step......


Now, you need to figure out how to extrude your authority without being so absolutist......


Electing Mods.......If the first prototype of this idea didnt work, then perhaps, the Mods should try nominating the temporary Mods, and holding the vote accordingly......

Eligibility could be based on Bonks(or lack thereof) posts per day.... etc......


Im sorry if I went off, but I really dont respond well to authoritarianism