Civil Rights Movement...

[Archem]

http://www.atomfilms.com/film/jesus_off.jsp?channelKeyword=channel_religious_heresy

[Razor]

Part of that URL is "Jesus off"
and that would be THE best catchphrase for Jesus to use when he is leaving.
"Well guys, it was fun turnin' water to wine, but I gotta dash. Jesus OFF!" *runs away*

[Osmose]

Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
Originally Posted by Osmose
 

Hum. I'm seriously confused, as, out of curiosity since I sure as hell don't read the Bible anymore (out of laziness, really - religion requires effort that I don't have), I checked in the old Bible we used when I was younger, and couldn't find the book of Leviticus.

Maybe my church decided to cut out the bad parts?

WTF?

(And I'm not saying that to be mean or anything. My best friend is Catholic and stuff.)[/B]

I'm just as confused as you are, but it's probably just this specific edition. The Bible's been published by basically everyone, so there's bound to be differences even if two Bibles claim to be Roman Catholic.

[Shady Ultima]

Originally posted by Daetyrnis

Originally posted by Shady Ultima
Now, I support gay rights fully, even if I personally do not agree with the lifestyle. Whether or not they're gay, they ARE a person, and every human should have the right to marry the person they love.

What is the homosexual person's lifestyle?  No please, tell me.  How do every homosexual man and woman live?[/B]

You know what I mean. Sexual preference is a lifestyle, because it effects your everyday life. I don't mean that they're different from everyone else, because they're not, they're the same.

[Almeidaboo]

Osmose said it right about marriage. Rights should be general, destined to every single citizen. Therefore, prohibition would be segregation.

But adopting kids isn`t right. The psiquic development of a kid depends 50% of the presence of the mother figure. Not just that, but also the social development.

And a gay man ain`t no woman. He`s a man that likes men. Period. He can`t fill the blank space that would be left in the kids personality. Your mom can`t have a dick. Can`t be hairy. Can`t speak in a grave tone. It`s gotta be the gentle presence, the warm chest, the sweet voice.

This kid will ask why he`s got to dads. He won`t understand the reason of the "key and keyhole" reproduction. He won`t grow in order to fulfill the species only rightful destination: reproduction.

That`s pretty much why our world is doomed: the human being is disposing itself from every little remain of instinct. He`s becoming a unfamiliar presence to nature. We are coming to the point that we can`t be considered "organic" anymore.

[Ben]

 A father Figure or mother figure dosent neccesarily have to be ****ing the other parent.

The African communities that adhere to the whole "It takes a village to raise a child" thing have it pretty dead on. If the Gay couple is a straight bashing fag fest, chances are they wont be eligible to adopt a child

Gay trying to adopt generally know the importance of this. And if their qualified for adoption, then there is obviously structure there. There are aunts, Uncles, Grandparents, Family friends, teachers. Just because A kid has two dads it does not mean that they will be watching gay porn and wondering what a lady is.

That was a little bit ignorant. Using your logic, single parents should have their children taken away. And thats stupid.

[Daetyrnis]

Originally posted by Shady Ultima

Originally posted by Daetyrnis

Originally posted by Shady Ultima
Now, I support gay rights fully, even if I personally do not agree with the lifestyle. Whether or not they're gay, they ARE a person, and every human should have the right to marry the person they love.

What is the homosexual person's lifestyle?  No please, tell me.  How do every homosexual man and woman live?[/B]

You know what I mean. Sexual preference is a lifestyle, because it effects your everyday life. I don't mean that they're different from everyone else, because they're not, they're the same. [/B]

Nobody is the same.  Nobody has the same lifestyle as anyone else.  Regardless of sexuality, regardless of gender, age, country, your lifestyle will not be the same as someone else's.  A group of people, one who are sexually attracted to their own gender, will not share one lifestyle.

Even if every gay man gets a funny feeling in their pants when they say a good-looking man, that doesn't mean that they live the same way as every other gay man.

[aboutasoandthis]

 Originally posted by gemini  

A father Figure or mother figure dosent neccesarily have to be ******* the other parent.

The African communities that adhere to the whole "It takes a village to raise a child" thing have it pretty dead on. If the Gay couple is a straight bashing *** fest, chances are they wont be eligible to adopt a child

Gay trying to adopt generally know the importance of this. And if their qualified for adoption, then there is obviously structure there. There are aunts, Uncles, Grandparents, Family friends, teachers. Just because A kid has two dads it does not mean that they will be watching gay porn and wondering what a lady is.

That was a little bit ignorant. Using your logic, single parents should have their children taken away. And thats stupid.

[Daetyrnis]

Gemini covered your post well, 'cept for this part.

Originally posted by Almeidaboo
He won`t grow in order to fulfill the species only rightful destination: reproduction.

Please prove that reproduction is the species' only rightful destination.

Furthermore, please provide reasons why homosexual couples cannot have biological children.  There are ways that they can raise kids that are not adopted, such as this.

[ZeroKirbyX]

Originally posted by Daetyrnis
Gemini covered your post well, 'cept for this part.

Originally posted by Almeidaboo
He won`t grow in order to fulfill the species only rightful destination: reproduction.

Please prove that reproduction is the species' only rightful destination.

Furthermore, please provide reasons why homosexual couples cannot have biological children.  There are ways that they can raise kids that are not adopted, such as this.[/B]

One word: lemmings.

[drenrin2120]

Gemini is one smart fuckin' dude.

Half the people I know only talk to one of their parents, and they're happier than kids that live with constantly fighting parents. If there's love, the kid will grow up fine. I don't believe that just because a child grows up with gay parents that they are more likely to grow up and be gay as well. Especially when people use the argument that homosexuality is a natural, predetermined thing in the genes.

[Osmose]

What Gemini said. Especially that part about being raised by a single parent.

[Razor]

Originally posted by Daetyrnis
Gemini covered your post well, 'cept for this part.

Originally posted by Almeidaboo
He won`t grow in order to fulfill the species only rightful destination: reproduction.

Please prove that reproduction is the species' only rightful destination.[/URL][/B]

It may not be proof, heck, it may not be all that relevant, but

while mankind has often pondered "what is the meaning of life?" every (and correct me if I'm wrong here) other animal does one thing in common, and that is to ensure that they bear life and generally pass their genetic information forwards into the future. That is to say, they all have sex. And eat. But eating is precursor to sex. Because you need to be alive before you have sex, unless she's into the necro-scene.

But that won't create children, so you might want to disregard that.


You know what I mean?



But yeah, generally a lot of people agree that on at least an instinctual basis the main goal is reproduction. On a moral or ethical or spiritual basis, which is primarily a human thing, it's something gay like "live your life to the fullest" etc.

Is this even relevant anymore? You tell me.

[Grandy]

Originally posted by Almeidaboo

This kid will ask why he`s got to dads. He won`t understand the reason of the "key and keyhole" reproduction. He won`t grow in order to fulfill the species only rightful destination: reproduction.

 ...you know, only because a gay couple adopted a kid, it does not mean they won't teach him about sex. Seriously.

 I mean c'mon, your other argument is that the kid needs a motherly figure, okay, so we should take away kids whose mothers died giving birth, and put them in an unknow family? Gimme a break man.

 As for instinc, man, instinc is what makes us kill when surrounded. All the human history is how about we are trying to make ourselves think instead of using our instincts.

[Moosetroop11]

Why are you lot so desperate to live how we were intented to live anyway? Animal nature is to reprodce and then die. Why do we need to follow the same course?

We only get one chance at life. Maybe you believe in an afterlife, or reincarnation, but let's be honest, that's a huge risk to take. If you waste away this life trying to do what's required of you by nature then you're wasting your one shot.

A better idea is to enjoy life as much as you possibly can without affecting others. That is, unfortunately, the opposite of some religious philosophies (Follow a set of rules whether you like them or not, and try to make everyone else follow them too).

If you want to do guys and then take drugs and then commit suicide, and you've decided that that's the best course of action for you, then do it, because if you have one thing, it should be the ability to choose how you spend your short, short time in existance.