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Offline Zerlina

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Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« on: September 18, 2008, 04:29:11 AM »
I remember a lot about KH and KH2. But I want to refresh myself on the actual underlying plot of both games. Here's the problem, even though I beat it and I thought I understood it at the time, I actually have no idea what the hell was going on there. I get the whole Roxas/Sora, the chain of events. But, well, for one thing- I don't know what Kingdom Hearts even is (A kingdom of hearts, but whaaa??) . And why was Ansem was going after it?  What was the signifigance of Kairi coming from another world (and which world was it...was it important)? How come in the second one, Riku and Kairi both have keyblades? And mickey mouse too? Why does Kairi have a nobody? How did the worlds get unlocked after the first game? What exactly is "the darkness?" Apart from the metaphorical signifigance, what does Kingdom Hearts "being light" have to do with the universe? Why did this fact destroy Xehanort when he opened the door, but didn't destroy Riku, and didn't have an effect on him before he opened the door?

Yeah sorry, I don't mean to be a pest. I read through wikipedia I still didn't get it. I just can't believe I thought I udnerstood this game but actually don't udnerstand the rules of the universe for it.
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 04:46:13 AM »
"BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW"

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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 04:46:51 AM »
Spot on, I'd say!
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 11:10:10 AM »
*facepalm* Retards.

Anyways, in part one when Kairi's heart was almost taken her nobody, Noami was born. Nobodies lack hearts, and in part two they were looking for hearts. Ansem is not looking for hearts, his evil assistant framed him. The darkness comes from the evil in our hearts; greed, vengeance, ect.

I think Kingdom hearts is in reference to us all having hearts and unity. I don't know about the other world thing... although she was a hidden princess so that might've been why? Mickey's always had a keyblade, the keyblade chooses. They were all picked.

Um I think Sora's dumbass unlocked the doors. Riku wasn't affected because he still had a good heart. He was just nosey. The being light thing is in a way saying light brings balance to the black sky or universe, whichever you wish to call.

I still need to beat both games x.x...
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 11:39:28 AM »
Yeah, I've played and finished both games, but now I realized I never stoped to think: "Why are the world still open in KH2?"
I kept on thinking that there was some secret ending in Kingdom Hearts one, that helps you visually connect both games, so I spent hours trying to find all secrets, and trinities, and the tournament stuff... Had no luck...
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 11:50:24 AM »
Will this turn into another KH bashing thread? Cuz I'm all for it lol...j\k. I won't.

I played 10 minutes of KH1, so I can't really help....good luck though.
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 04:15:50 PM »
I'm not really trying to bash it...I seriosuly don't understand the rules of the universe.

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*facepalm* Retards.

Anyways, in part one when Kairi's heart was almost taken her nobody, Noami was born. Nobodies lack hearts, and in part two they were looking for hearts. Ansem is not looking for hearts, his evil assistant framed him. The darkness comes from the evil in our hearts; greed, vengeance, ect.

I think Kingdom hearts is in reference to us all having hearts and unity. I don't know about the other world thing... although she was a hidden princess so that might've been why? Mickey's always had a keyblade, the keyblade chooses. They were all picked.

Um I think Sora's dumbass unlocked the doors. Riku wasn't affected because he still had a good heart. He was just nosey. The being light thing is in a way saying light brings balance to the black sky or universe, whichever you wish to call.

I still need to beat both games x.x...

Ok thanks for clearing up where Namine came from, and why the worlds are unlocked. But ok, sorry I accidentally said Ansem instead of Xehanort. Why was XEHANORT going after kingdom hearts. Even if Kingdom Hearts represents the unity of hearts...what is the physical "Kingdom Hearts" of the KH universe? I see what it erpresents from a storytelling, allegorical perspective. But I really don't understand  what it's physically supposed to be. And the light bringing balance to the black sky/universe...ok I get what it represents. But seriously what was it? I have af eeling a lot of this game was probably lost in translation...

I'm trying to guess here, but maybe- Xehanort wanted to open kingdom hearts so that the darkness would swallow and corrupt all the worlds (although I still don't see why this would benefit him), but when it turned out to be light, it fixed all the worlds? I still really don't understand what kingdom hearts is, besides being made of light...

I'm not trying to bash KH...I just actaully don't understand it.
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 05:56:00 PM »
bevuase he's a heartless, and he wants a heart of his own..to feel ...so to say Complete

I've beaten all 3 kingdom heart games, and I <3 em all!
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 06:34:28 PM »
What Felix said. The guy became obsessed with Ansem's research in hearts to the point where he forgot himself. I believe the goal was to make Nobodies like everyone else. Human in a way that they could feel something. They're not like the Heartless, they feel some things but they want love.

From what I gather reading Wikipedia... at the end of part one... the last door Ansem opens was the door to Kingdom Hearts. There is nothing but pure energy or hearts. Ansem was trying to brkng darkness into everyones hearts to make them heartless/nobodies. He was seeking Kingdom Hearts because it leads to all hearts and would get the job done faster. The other Nobodies wanted to be normal.

I do not believe KH has a physical structure. It was shown as light. KH is the purity/light in our hearts. It's like the last safe place from darkness basically. KH is the source of hearts.
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 08:59:04 PM »
That game was stupid.  It had such a stupid story.  Which is such a damn shame because I really like the concept of everything.  I tried hard to like it but looking back at it it was just all around weak.
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 10:40:25 PM »
The game was good when you could overlook the disney cahracters. Just don't think of them as disney characters.
(Pirates world was the most unoriginal)

Roxas and Naminé was created during the KH1 events at hallow bastion. Kairi had her soul taken(kinda) so she became a part of Sora. When Sora goes all harakiri he releases his own soul and Kairi's from his body.
This makes Sora into a heartless, and well. A nobody was created at the same time.

And Kingdom hearts is... Light! Well, there was loads of heartless in there when they try to close the door, but I figured that it's just how it worked out since Xehanort messed thins up.

In KH2 though, kingdom hearts came closer to reality everytime a heartless was killed or something of the kind, or rather; when the keyblade "unlocked" the heartless' souls. The gba game had little to do with the actual kingdom hearts, it was more about the organization xiii and Riku.

Kingdom hearts is kinda like the crystal in FFIX I figured, I was a bit too young when I played that ending but now, I get it better.
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 11:25:49 PM »
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That game was stupid.  It had such a stupid story.  Which is such a damn shame because I really like the concept of everything.  I tried hard to like it but looking back at it it was just all around weak.

My opinion exactly. I enjoyed the idea, I enjoyed the battle system, but I hated the fact that it just transplanted other characters for guaranteed revenue instead of making it original. Well, that and the bawwww.
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 11:35:55 PM »
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I liked Kingdom Hearts 2.  1.. I actually watched someone play the first one, and when I went to play it (after beating 2) I discovered the set up up the controller I like died.  I never made it far in that one...

Yeah, Kingdom hearts was like a power source for Xehanort towards the end.  Like.. that entire battle was in Kingdom Hearts if I remember right.
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2008, 12:49:59 AM »
The main thing I objected to in KH was the LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT and DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK with very little in between. Even the Nobodies and ORganization 13 were fairly RAH I'M EVIL, HOHOHO! save for maybe a couple, and even then, they were eh. But. . . that's not what the thread's about.
I'm having a lot of trouble putting the themes I saw in the story into words. But basically, it seems like Sora=good, darkness=bad. As for Kingdom Hearts itself, I thought Xemnas was trying to nab it in KH2 for hearts for the Nobodies, and that Ansem in KH was trying to corrupt it or something. I dunno. It was this big hearty thing in the sky that always seemed to be surrounded by cliche choral music and boss battles with silver haired fruit loops, usually accompanied by angelic and/or divine symbolism. Rather like the final dungeon of FF7, but without Knights of the Round to make it go faster.
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Re: Can someone tell me what Kingdom Hearts is About (yes I've played it)
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2008, 11:56:56 AM »
Quote from: Phayre on September 19, 2008, 12:49:59 AM
The main thing I objected to in KH was the LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT and DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK with very little in between. Even the Nobodies and ORganization 13 were fairly RAH I'M EVIL, HOHOHO! save for maybe a couple, and even then, they were eh. But. . . that's not what the thread's about.
I'm having a lot of trouble putting the themes I saw in the story into words. But basically, it seems like Sora=good, darkness=bad. As for Kingdom Hearts itself, I thought Xemnas was trying to nab it in KH2 for hearts for the Nobodies, and that Ansem in KH was trying to corrupt it or something. I dunno. It was this big hearty thing in the sky that always seemed to be surrounded by cliche choral music and boss battles with silver haired fruit loops, usually accompanied by angelic and/or divine symbolism. Rather like the final dungeon of FF7, but without Knights of the Round to make it go faster.

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Rather like the final dungeon of FF7, but without Knights of the Round to make it go faster.

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Knights of the Round to make it go faster.

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Knights of the Round, faster.

..............Huh.....you don't see that very often...
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