Wow, Car Accident

[MissingName]

I've seen lots of accidents.  For whatever reason, people see the need to speed in my (usually) quiet neighborhood.  It's not unusual to see two or three accidents a year.  The worst I saw up close was the guy with his snapped humerus pushed past his elbow through the skin.

In another accident we passed by (not in my neighborhood), there was a car bent around the tree, with paramedics just standing around looking at a sheet-covered body.

[drenrin2120]

I'll be honest; if alcohol or speed is involved, I don't feel pity for her.

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I don't think I'd react much differently if I were you, Archem.

[Cerebus]

Why should I feel pity for someone who drives recklessly and put other people's life in danger?

I'm not saying those people deserve death, but if there is to be someone dying, I'd rather it's the one speeding/driving under influence than the one who was walking/driving near. And I'm not talking about this case specifically, since it's still unknown what happened, but about any case where speeding/drunk driving is involved.

I mean... how many times do you see someone getting killed by those? Too often. So yeah... sorry, but I wouldn't feel pity.

But again, don't get me wrong: If either speeding or alcohol is involved, I'm not saying she deserved death.

[Archem]

Maybe not pity, but at least something. Remorse? Maybe not quite that, but regardless, I can't just feel nothing.

[Cerebus]

There's no lying that the death of a teenage girl is sad. I'm not saying "Meh, who cares?".
I'm just saying that I can't feel pity for someone who could have caused the death of people who I would feel pity for.

However, it's still uncertain whether it's the case or not, though. I mean... she might just have been distracted and lost control of her vehicle or something.
And of course, when it happens right in front of you, it's completely different, too.
I mean... you probably would have felt different if you had just heard it from someone.

[oooog]

It's a shame to be sure.  I see an accident at the intersection by my workplace at least once a week, so I'm a little desensitized to it.  Never seen a death as a result, but I've had to call an ambulance on multiple occasions.  Though after witnessing a shooting and being robbed at gunpoint, the adrenaline rush isn't quite the same.

Odd topic to return to and chime in on, but oh well.

[drenrin2120]

I understand where you're coming from and what you're saying. It just seems pointless to debate why you should or shouldn't feel pity for someone who died based on why they died. People do lots of stupid, reckless things.

[HackersTotalMassLaser]

And how many sudden, violent deaths have you seen first hand?

I haven't seen anything like this up close, so I can't really relate to your feelings on the matter, but I have to agree that the attitude people in general are having to this are sickening.
Seriously, shame on you. Somebody just died.

Two.

I've seen one fatal car accident happen in front of me, almost hitting the car with the people i was in, and the other was a guy beaten and then taken to the hospital where he died.

However this is not the point. My point wasn't about feeling bad for a person dying (which I do, passing it off as I don't care is a little inhumane.). My point was that he was feeling pumped for a crash in his backyard (or near his backyard as seen in the pics.). I mean, UNLESS he was going into action and help out, I do believe there was no reason to get 'pumped'. I am not saying I got nerves of steel but, I've been close to many, many crashes and seen a fire or two breakout close to places in which I stayed, and yeah there's that spectator feeling, but that's it. He sounded frantic on his OP post.

I guess my realization  here was that he had probably never witnessed stuff like that so close, again, as my accusation went, because he doesn't get out much. Which, aside of the death of a human being (which is terrible), was my point.

[Cerebus]

I understand where you're coming from and what you're saying. It just seems pointless to debate why you should or shouldn't feel pity for someone who died based on why they died. People do lots of stupid, reckless things.

I guess you're sort of right, but in a way, my own post isn't any more pointless than the "I wouldn't have really cared" ones.
The only difference here is that I explain why and you clearly disagree with me.

Perhaps my own point of view makes me look like a jerk, and I suppose it was sort of pointless to mention it, yes... but oh well.

I once started a thread where I said I saw someone who just had died (didn't see him die, just like less than a minute after he fell to his death) and two or three posts were pretty much "People die. Who cares?".
Was it pointless to say this? Kind of. Should they have refrained from saying this? Not really... they're free to tell their own opinion.
It's not like I said "B*tch got what she deserved". Because I don't think she did.

But anyway... you're free to feel pity for her, just like I'm free to not feel any if the reason she crashed was because she was driving dangerously and putting other people's life in danger.

Oh, and also... I'd probably be pumped as well if an accident where people died occurred only a few meters away from where I live.

[Archem]

I guess my realization  here was that he had probably never witnessed stuff like that so close, again, as my accusation went, because he doesn't get out much. Which, aside of the death of a human being (which is terrible), was my point.

The explanation helps a bit to make you look like less of a jackass, but honestly, if watching as a tragic event happens just outside the window, where you can't walk away and try to get past it, you're going to be a bit rattled. It could have easily veered to the left instead of to the right, gone through my fence, and into my house. The only reason it ended up where it did is because of the tree it basically rebounded off of. Saying that someone doesn't get out much just because that affects them is kind of bullheaded, and a little inconsiderate. It's not like I've never seen a serious accident happen in front of me, or that I've never been closer to the action where someone ends up dead; I have. I'm just not really able to shrug it off. It sticks with me. It digs deep. It really hits me like a brick wall, and I can't just get over it like some people seem to be able to do.

[drenrin2120]

I'm not trying to paint you as jerk cerb. Sorry if I came off that way.

I mean, people deal with **** in different ways. I don't think it really says much about them other than they're human.

[HackersTotalMassLaser]

It's good that you care, but the sooner you come in terms with death, the better.

[Archem]

Badass mode activate. Gotcha.

I'll just stick with being me.

[Cerebus]

I'm not trying to paint you as jerk cerb. Sorry if I came off that way.

I mean, people deal with **** in different ways. I don't think it really says much about them other than they're human.

I didn't say anything about that, though.
I mean... if someone cares and pity her no matter why it ended up this way... there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Not saying anyone who reacts heavily to this kind of stuff are sissies... it just show they aren't heartless.

[Archem]

I know the name of the victim now. A major local newspaper has a story on it.

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No mention of alcohol, but I still have to wonder if she was texting or something.