Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on June 25, 2007, 07:07:13 AM
most recent roster pic
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/KazeSSBB/up254176.jpg
http://ranobe.com/up/src/up254065.jpg
http://ranobe.com/up/src/up254037.jpg
Post by: Razor on June 25, 2007, 07:43:51 AM
The Lylat level was the best update so far, visually.
Post by: Osmose on June 25, 2007, 07:55:57 AM
Not to mention it has been said that third party characters will only amount to maybe 1 more, at most 2. Bomberman is from Hudson, Frog is from Squaresoft/SquareEnix, Sonic is from Sega, and the Belmont is from Konami. Not to mention that Bomberman and the Belmont choices seem stolen from this game. I could be wrong about him, but predicting that Zelda would still be in the game is hardly any good proof. We'll have to wait until the end of the week, I guess.
PS: I can understand shifting Zelda/Sheik into two characters, but removing Sheik? She's like one of the best characters in the game, up there with Marth. She's top tier with Marth and Fox.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on June 25, 2007, 09:18:58 AM
*possible "spoiler" for twilight princess ahead -~-**
I agree. I am a shiek user and she's pretty handy. But with Zelda's Twilight's model there'll be some akwardness. Not saying it isnt a possibility but I would think that if she were to be in, she would be in as a separate character, rather than in transformation. (This isnt to support the guy in any way, this is rather theories on shiek)
And now with Link and Zelda in their twilight models, it's almost safe to assume that Ganondorf will be in his twilight model (SPOILER? OMG) meaning he will actually wield a sword (GANONDORF HAS A SWORD? OMG SPOILER) (since he was a C.F. clone before and clones = bad ) [again not to support the guy but I actually came to realize this.]
Even though bad enough, Snake has already been seen with some of CF's smash moves and ZSS has already shown her Down Smash to be similar, if not identical, to shiek's down smash.
Post by: Razor on June 25, 2007, 09:36:08 AM
Please.
And while we're throwing WILD SPECULATIVE RUMOURS around.
Marth! Possibly removed!
Roy! Even more possibly removed!
Mr Game and Watch! Possibly removed!
Ice Climbers! Possibly removed!
I hope Pichu falls in a blender. Most useless character ever.
Post by: Osmose on June 25, 2007, 05:08:07 PM
I <3 Game and Watch and Ice Climbers. I can whoop *** with Game and Watch too since his smash is heavy as hell.
Post by: WarxePB on June 25, 2007, 06:47:28 PM
They just need to make a fighting game with every video game character in existence. Then we'll all be happy.
Also: http://wii.ign.com/articles/798/798662p1.html (http://wii.ign.com/articles/798/798662p1.html). This is just speculation, but Pac-Man and an FF/DQ character seem more likely than a Belmont or Frog.
EDIT: I want to be able to fight with my Miis. If I can't, Brawl will be worthless to me.
EDIT2: In place of an FF/DQ character, why now an SMRPG character? Though the original characters from SMRPG are technically owned by Square, donating Mallow or Geno would be easier than Cloud, Black Mage or a Slime because they've already appeared in a Mario game.
Post by: Apex on June 25, 2007, 07:13:05 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on June 25, 2007, 08:41:46 PM
Ice Climbers are actually pretty good if you know how to use em.
I dont think they'll remove Marth. The castle stage shown on the trailer is indeed a FIre Emblem stage. many believe it's marth's castle, I in the other hand find it very similar to the castle found in the new FE trailer.
I prefer anyone over geno. I dont see that thing adequate for brawl at all. Also pacman and bomberman would have a really weird moveset if one of them make it.
i dont think Sonic will be that bad. I am almost sure he's going to be in brawl. They already said it was the most popular vote when Sakurai made that "what characters you want in" poll thing. And sakurai looks out for fans a bit too much.
Post by: ellie-is on June 25, 2007, 08:48:55 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on June 25, 2007, 09:15:53 PM
==
"
Both Ridley and Zant are in the game, They are NPC's in event matches
Zant is in an online event match, you and a friend team up to fight him, you have to be Link and the other person can be Zelda or even Ganon
Ridley is in a regular event match you have to fight as Samus. I believe that unlocks Zero Suit Samus but that i'm not really to sure about
Today's Dojo update was decent huh? But it was not the one I am talking about there is definatly a better one coming
This is way down the line but August 3rd will be a big day for Smash Bros Brawl info.
Lastly to all the Pokemon people, there will eventually be more of them, it wasen't priority right now, they are not interested in making a game with as many charcters as possible"
*people whining about not wanting frog*
"You all seem to really dislike frog, he's pretty unique and will most likely end up being a fun charcter to use. There is no rule saying it must be the main charcter of a series to get in, also it is possible Nintendo has to pay less royalitys to use Frog than Chrono.
I got my source from someone working on the game who likes to talk, indirectly.
No one is really asking any questions so I am not sure what to answer? Get some questions togeather and i'll answer them tonight at 10:30pm(eastern time)
Paper mario has a float move, he basically turns to the side and floats down like paper, good recovery move.
Before they officially announce Sonic on the 13th they will update Dojo with an item or level specific to him to tease fans
Anyone who dosen't believe me can read any of the other 500 boring topics on the board, I haven't been rude, or spammed or anything i'm just trying to give info because I know people are dying to hear it."
===
Supposedly this guy will have more info tonight at 10:30 PM EST
Post by: Darkfox on June 25, 2007, 09:25:37 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on June 25, 2007, 09:42:38 PM
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#31-40: Non-Nintendo characters added into the game MUST have appeared on a Nintendo platform. They cannot be from a manga/anime. The tentative number of non-Nintendo characters to be added after Snake is 1-2, but this can still change.
Yep. Only characters that appeared on a Nintendo Platform.
Post by: Apex on June 26, 2007, 02:09:38 AM
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Originally posted by lucas_irineu
SONIC IS NOT GOING TO BE IN BRAWL! I mean, is awesome and all, and would be my favorite character, but, HE IS FROM SEGA! Dont you get that?
You fool. If you think Sega and Nintendo are still at each others throats, you are beyond saving. Proof enough lies in a title called "Mario and Sonic in the Olympic Games" coming to the Wii and DS.
As for a Castlevania representative, I would almost rather see Soma Cruz or Alucard.
All time requests for myself are the following.
-Tom Nook
-Castlevania representative.
-Paper Mario representative.
-Phoenix Wright (Isn't going to happen, but it would be awesome.)
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on June 26, 2007, 03:32:24 AM
Alt costumes will for the most part just be different colors of the same thing, there will however be a few exceptions to this rule. Link for example has 2 very distinct costumes
The download will work in sets of 3 and 4, One known set is a pokemon one, that will be 3 or 4 months after the release, price is unknown, probally 4.99. 3rd party charcters will be released if it can be worked out but they would be by thereself
Yes Zelda has a Light bow, and yes it is awesom
Yes there will be more confirmed charcters before Sonic, with 1 of them being announced before this week is over.
There will be 2 or 3 less stages than charcters as some have to share such as Zelda and Ganondorf
There will be a Wind waker cell shaded style stage
There will be a pixelated Paper Mario style stage
There is a cape item in the game
I think I answered everything? sorry if I diden't. i'll post again tomorrow when it allows me. afternoon I assume.. Ask more i'll answer more"
He's being too vague so he can be right.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on June 26, 2007, 06:16:08 AM
Post by: Razor on June 26, 2007, 07:54:39 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Zant is in an online event match, you and a friend team up to fight him, you have to be Link and the other person can be Zelda or even Ganon
See, right there you know he's making up crap.
Reading this guy's crap is too frustrating.
And you're right, he's being vague so he can claim he was right, and taking estimates based on what we already know (Ridley music clearly = Ridley in some form, Ridley most logically being a Samus exclusive, though not necessarily true)
Post by: Apex on June 26, 2007, 04:16:09 PM
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Originally posted by Osmose
ALUCARD WOULD OWN AS A MARTH CLONE OMFG
I AM NOT JOKING THAT WOULD MAKE MY ****ing DAY.
I'd rather see an original character rather then a Clone.. Alucard does have pretty good moveset possibilities.
^b Bat transformation (Limited time.)
>b He dashes behind the enemy and attack twice, then slides back. (The special move you can do in SotN with Alucard's sword equiped.)
b Shoots 3 fireballs
vb Summon Spirit, which flies around and hurts people.
Final Smash could be anything really. I was thinking Dark Metamorphosis. You could steal back 5% health every time you attack someone for a set amount of time.
Yeah, and they guy's a dirty liar.
Post by: Osmose on June 26, 2007, 07:07:51 PM
So Alucard as a Marth clone would be like Roy - plays similar, but the specials would be different and he'd probably be a tiny bit heavier, not quite Roy, but close.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on June 27, 2007, 06:09:20 AM
Seriously.
Post by: Razor on June 27, 2007, 07:22:51 AM
Post by: Apex on June 27, 2007, 01:09:31 PM
Post by: Razor on June 28, 2007, 07:27:08 AM
Also not in liar boy's list
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW, GAMEFAQS?
Post by: Apex on June 28, 2007, 03:13:36 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on June 28, 2007, 05:09:39 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on June 29, 2007, 02:58:00 AM
"There is only one adventure mode that all the charcters use, however certain charcters will have extra boss fights/scenes. Mario for example on his adventure mode will fight Sonic if certain conditions are met thus unlocking him.
There is an event match that he is in, I'm not sure if he is in 1p adventure though
I do not know Pit's final smash, Krystal is not in the game at all unless maybe on Fox's level he can use his call for help trick like in the last game.
There is the Castle Zelda stage which I think has been shown in videos before
I have not seen Kirby's stage
Frog shares a stage with Marth, it's a forest type stage where you can use the tree tops or fight on the ground
When you say ganondorf turns into his pig form do you mean like sheik or is it his final smash?
Single player still has the 1p adventure mode, and the Target test, No homerun games though. They are still working out a few of the 1p modes, there should be at least 2 brand new modes
Hmm next up to the guy who said I slipped up by saying there will be more Fire Emblem charcters after saying Marth was the only one in the game. Marth is the only one you start with in the game, in time after the new Fire Emblem comes out in America there is a good chance you will be able to download the new hero.
Last recap for those confues. 1 more charcter will be revealed this week, Pokemon related on Monday, Yoshi on Tuesday."
Post by: Razor on June 29, 2007, 06:40:11 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
XD acrroding to his "info" a character MUST be announced today, or else he will be virtually sacrificed on gamefaqs.
Hello Wario's moves, goodbye lying bastard guy,
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on June 29, 2007, 07:03:52 AM
Now new subject: Look at the 4th picture of wario's fartiness; see the flag? see the emblem?
Many people say its from Dolua (marth indication) but I KNOW i ahve seen it else were in another FE game.
Also samus to ZSS. Since wario's chopper is confirmed, and so far most of the things from the first trailer are being proven, it is likely for Samus to transform to ZSS over some kind of overload. Not FS, because she doesnt seem like be using FS on the trailer (not glowing) but rather a powerup version of the charge shot... and missile.
Post by: Rowan on June 29, 2007, 04:07:22 PM
Post by: Apex on June 29, 2007, 06:45:44 PM
Post by: Razor on July 01, 2007, 10:22:56 PM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Also samus to ZSS. Since wario's chopper is confirmed, and so far most of the things from the first trailer are being proven, it is likely for Samus to transform to ZSS over some kind of overload. Not FS, because she doesnt seem like be using FS on the trailer (not glowing) but rather a powerup version of the charge shot... and missile.
Sounds like a Final Smash to me. Besides, it hardly makes sense for a giant blast cannon thing that is perfect for Samus to be usable by anyone else.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on July 01, 2007, 10:32:57 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on July 02, 2007, 06:15:55 AM
Post by: Apex on July 02, 2007, 02:29:07 PM
Post by: Razor on July 03, 2007, 07:08:09 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
"Pokemon related on Monday, Yoshi on Tuesday."
Bowser on Monday, highly unlikely that there'll be another character tomorrow.
How's he going on GameFAQs?
Remade entirely? He looks almost identical.
Post by: Apex on July 03, 2007, 03:36:05 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on July 04, 2007, 05:59:38 AM
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Originally posted by RazorQuoteOriginally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
"Pokemon related on Monday, Yoshi on Tuesday."
Bowser on Monday, highly unlikely that there'll be another character tomorrow.
How's he going on GameFAQs?
Remade entirely? He looks almost identical.[/B]
Him and the people who believed in him left the boards out of commitment. Since last week xD
Maybe Sakurai means weight and stuff? But HEAVIEST and BIGGEST = No ridley.
Post by: Razor on July 04, 2007, 07:18:38 AM
Also, Giga Bowser?
HOLY ****
Post by: Apex on July 04, 2007, 02:30:23 PM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaserQuoteOriginally posted by RazorQuoteOriginally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
"Pokemon related on Monday, Yoshi on Tuesday."
Bowser on Monday, highly unlikely that there'll be another character tomorrow.
How's he going on GameFAQs?
Remade entirely? He looks almost identical.[/B]
Him and the people who believed in him left the boards out of commitment. Since last week xD
Maybe Sakurai means weight and stuff? But HEAVIEST and BIGGEST = No ridley.[/B]
Well, Ridley IS a flying dragon, to fly I would imagine that you would have to be pretty light weight.
I don't care if Ridley's in or not, just stating it's still a possibility.
Post by: ellie-is on July 04, 2007, 02:39:26 PM
Post by: Osmose on July 06, 2007, 12:47:35 AM
Post by: Darkfox on July 06, 2007, 03:50:04 AM
Post by: Razor on July 06, 2007, 07:27:08 AM
Post by: WarxePB on July 06, 2007, 02:25:45 PM
Ridley is more likely to be an Assist Trophy than a full-blown character (I would imagine Dark Samus or one of the Hunters from MPH to fill the role of other playable Metroid character). That said, they'd better make an awesome Metroid level this time around... the previous two games' levels were rather underwhelming.
Post by: Apex on July 06, 2007, 02:47:55 PM
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Originally posted by Razor
Coolest level yet?
Not even close, I'd rather have a Zora's Domain level from Majora's Mask.
Post by: Fortet on July 06, 2007, 04:21:24 PM
That's going to be the best (until the Metroid level is released (hoping)).
Post by: Apex on July 06, 2007, 05:31:22 PM
Post by: Razor on July 07, 2007, 12:27:10 AM
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Originally posted by ApexQuoteOriginally posted by Razor
Coolest level yet?
Not even close, I'd rather have a Zora's Domain level from Majora's Mask.[/B]
I'm sorry, I must have missed those updates that verify they are in the game.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on July 11, 2007, 06:28:54 AM
Post by: Apex on July 11, 2007, 03:27:10 PM
Post by: WarxePB on July 12, 2007, 12:18:43 AM
Post by: Razor on July 18, 2007, 06:03:23 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Also samus to ZSS. Since wario's chopper is confirmed, and so far most of the things from the first trailer are being proven, it is likely for Samus to transform to ZSS over some kind of overload. Not FS, because she doesnt seem like be using FS on the trailer (not glowing) but rather a powerup version of the charge shot... and missile.
Well, that was w-w-w-w-wrong.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on July 18, 2007, 12:07:03 PM
And FS was my first opinion, but I was looking for a way to appease to some idiots while not really leaving the idea. (on gamefaqs)
Anyway, I laughed and posted at many people who believe she would not transformed after the FS.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on July 20, 2007, 11:59:09 AM
Post by: Razor on July 20, 2007, 01:19:31 PM
Time will tell.
Post by: Apex on July 20, 2007, 02:15:35 PM
Post by: WarxePB on July 20, 2007, 02:18:47 PM
Post by: Razor on July 21, 2007, 08:29:22 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on July 21, 2007, 11:53:57 AM
Post by: WarxePB on July 22, 2007, 12:27:05 AM
Post by: Razor on July 22, 2007, 08:17:41 AM
Also note on the website that got two pictures in the wrong order. lol
Post by: WarxePB on July 22, 2007, 10:44:09 AM
Of course, it could just be an error.
Post by: Darkfox on July 22, 2007, 11:41:54 AM
Maybe the force behind them is the Bad Dude.
"Are you a bad enough dude to be the main antagonist on SSBB?"
Post by: Razor on July 22, 2007, 12:35:46 PM
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Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Actually, I've read that in between those two pictures, Mario and Kirby brawl; Mario wins, and Kirby is reduced to a trophy. Then Mario decides "screw this" and somehow revives Kirby, which prompts the handshake.
Of course, it could just be an error.
Maybe, the text works that way. But the pics don't flow as well.
Also, why is the halberd in the background? Evil new guy is evil, not Metaknight.
Post by: WarxePB on July 22, 2007, 08:33:52 PM
Post by: Razor on July 24, 2007, 06:33:09 AM
Here's hoping for a full SSB return.
Post by: Apex on July 24, 2007, 12:42:05 PM
PAAAAAAWNCH.
Post by: WarxePB on July 25, 2007, 12:08:53 PM
Also, they haven't mentioned any new Zelda or Pokemon characters. Zelda's a bit limited - really, the only characters I could see them introducing are Midna from Twilight Princess and/or Tetra from Wind Waker. Midna would make a cool magic-based character, but she floats... that makes it a bit unfair, unless they put a restriction on her floating.
*SPOILERS FOR WIND WAKER*
And Tetra is essentially Zelda, so that makes her just another Sheik... unless they make Zelda transform into Tetra this time around, and make Sheik an Assist Trophy or Final Smash or something.
*/SPOILERS*
But Pokemon... I'm not so sure about. Pikachu's confirmed, and it's plausible that Jigglypuff will return, but I'm not so sure about Mewtwo. (Let's not even go to Pichu). None of the Generation 3 legendaries work as fighters (except maybe Groudon and Deoxys, but both are Pokeballs), and the only Generation 4 Pokemon I can think of is Lucario... although Lucario might not make such a bad fighter. Other than that... nothing really, without getting into favorites (Blaziken!)
What are your thoughts? I know that the whole character speculation thing is overdone, but look at it this way - what characters are popular enough to include in Brawl?
Post by: Rowan on August 01, 2007, 09:08:22 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 01, 2007, 11:45:36 AM
Post by: Razor on August 01, 2007, 12:05:28 PM
Post by: WarxePB on August 01, 2007, 01:23:23 PM
Post by: Osmose on August 01, 2007, 02:49:58 PM
Also: Jigglypuff whoops major ***. They can't take him out.
Yes, him. I saw his penis myself.
Post by: Apex on August 01, 2007, 02:52:07 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 02, 2007, 05:20:11 AM
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Originally posted by Razor
Sure you did, Kijuki ;)
I did. Sadly my thread is long gone in gamefaqs do to massive spamming of the word shyat.
But no seriously it wasnt that hard to expect him.
No Tom Nook. I guess Rover or Bianca! Or even your own AC character D: Maybe even KK Slider. But I aint too sure of that.
Post by: Osmose on August 02, 2007, 05:46:05 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
But no seriously it wasnt that hard to expect him.
Right. Man you're so smart KM. This is why I like you.
Oh wait.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 02, 2007, 05:53:04 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 02, 2007, 06:45:49 AM
Damn it sakurai :(
Post by: Razor on August 02, 2007, 07:15:11 AM
I like the underground falling bit. Mid air fighting for a few seconds, now that's madness.
But I wonder how the level could possibly go back to the start
Post by: WarxePB on August 03, 2007, 12:35:06 AM
Or they could just keep you in the basement. That's how Rumble Falls is looking right now - once you get to the top, you stay there until the match is ended.
Also, Razor, move this thread to AoA. It's damn time we had an official SSBB thread.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 03, 2007, 04:40:20 AM
Last Q & A
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 03, 2007, 06:06:38 AM
Post by: Razor on August 03, 2007, 06:31:07 AM
BEST.
GAME.
EVER.
Also, Warxe, I agree. To All of All, away!
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 03, 2007, 07:03:21 AM
Update's quick video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLvFTAADxr0
This game... all it needs now is online confirmation, and will be epic win.
Also: Palutena and Peach!
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 03, 2007, 07:27:29 AM
Just think of entering a part of the game called "Create your own character" And then load a Mii from the Wii and chose a battle style and then the special attacks and taunt. That would be awsome. Wooping each other up in a brawl over the internet, awsome.
So far everything is looking good, I hope that the doppelgangers will be either replaced or removed.(Gannondorf/Cp Falcon, Falco/Fox, Marth-Roy{can't tell who is the doppelganger here}, Pichu/Pikachu, Dr Mario/Mario)
Give them their own fighting style like they did with Luigi or just throw them into the can, would be sad if you lost them though.
Post by: Rowan on August 03, 2007, 12:01:33 PM
Post by: Darkfox on August 03, 2007, 01:13:15 PM
Post by: WarxePB on August 03, 2007, 01:28:38 PM
And it looks like Peach will be in the game, if not a playable character. But I don't know about Palutena - it only shows her arm, so she might just be a cutscene or Assist Trophy or something.
EDIT: In regards to Kijuki's link - both Sheik and Ganondorf seem like pretty obvious brawlers. I wouldn't be surprised if they show up in the next few days or weeks.
Alas, this is our last update for the week. Sucks.
Post by: Razor on August 03, 2007, 01:31:57 PM
Probably as Samus' boss in SSE. Which will be awesome.
Post by: Razor on August 03, 2007, 01:48:59 PM
I hope this is a shop. Otherwise, bad end.
Post by: Darkfox on August 03, 2007, 02:01:02 PM
Post by: crunkman2000 on August 03, 2007, 02:08:26 PM
HOLY ****! HOLY ****!
Post by: Darkfox on August 03, 2007, 02:10:22 PM
What?
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 03, 2007, 04:13:54 PM
Post by: Darkfox on August 03, 2007, 04:18:10 PM
Post by: Bluhman on August 03, 2007, 04:37:58 PM
It's just a ton of blue. And I ain't using any sissy software either.
Post by: SaiKar on August 03, 2007, 09:14:07 PM
Sigh, I was hoping to avoid buying a Wii too.
I generally scoff at all rumors of characters hidden or otherwise.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 03, 2007, 09:16:25 PM
The other thing that's lingering is: What about if this fleshed out fully storylined single player could mean a kind of "make up" for no online component
Post by: Apex on August 04, 2007, 12:24:57 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 04, 2007, 12:36:44 AM
Post by: Razor on August 04, 2007, 12:45:09 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Image is from ytmnd. So i am leaning toward like " daaaarn."
I got it from the SmashBoards forums, not YTMND.
Also: Online play. I just can't wait to play with a bunch of laggy 12 year olds who have nothing better to do than play 18 hours a day.
Yeah, no.
It would appear to be a shop, though. I can't replicate the results.
Post by: Osmose on August 04, 2007, 02:16:32 AM
They don't match up.
Post by: Shady Ultima on August 04, 2007, 03:00:35 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
The other thing that's lingering is: What about if this fleshed out fully storylined single player could mean a kind of "make up" for no online component
This game, and essentially the success of the wii is depending on online play. If nintendo doesn't put online with SSBB... sales will not be what they expect.
Post by: Razor on August 04, 2007, 03:10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Osmose
It's not about replicating results, it's about looking at his un-zoomed version and comparing.
PICTURE
They don't match up.
Well, thank God for that.
Also, Shady, that's a load.
This game WILL sell.
I don't think anyone who would buy it, would ONLY buy it for online play.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 04, 2007, 04:06:23 AM
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Originally posted by RazorQuoteOriginally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Image is from ytmnd. So i am leaning toward like " daaaarn."
I got it from the SmashBoards forums, not YTMND.
Also: Online play. I just can't wait to play with a bunch of laggy 12 year olds who have nothing better to do than play 18 hours a day.
Yeah, no.
It would appear to be a shop, though. I can't replicate the results.[/B]
But it DID come or appeared in ytmnd
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/2/b/0/2b0b82e7a00378960e3c35474e9cb119.jpg
whether it came from ytmnd first i dont know, but ALL the linked images i've seen are from that source. or someone just uploading it to their photobucket
The game will sell either way, but it will just be less "awesome". Or better put this way: It will be more awesome if it had online.
Post by: Shady Ultima on August 04, 2007, 04:24:31 AM
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Originally posted by Razor
Also, Shady, that's a load.
This game WILL sell.
I don't think anyone who would buy it, would ONLY buy it for online play.[/B]
Sorry, I suppose I worded it poorly. Xbox and Ps3 have huge online capabilities. Xbox's main selling point is it's internet. Who REALLY wants to play Halo vs the computers... no one.
If nintendo hasn't picked up on the fact that internet gaming is HUGE... well, they must be complete morons. I don't expect Final Fantasy 11 (would be stupid with the controller and all) but SSBB should have online play. Because think about it, it's a multiplayer game. Me and my 2 friends play SSBM all the time. But if we could add a 4th from anywhere in the world, that'd be awesome! Or when I'm at home, just randomly connect and play? Great! Download extra characters? Fuckin SWEET. It would make the game a ton better. I know it's going to sell like crazy either way... but really, I think the sales will be higher if it has the online ability.
I hope they let us know if Sonic will be in the game or not... but in all likelyhood, they'll announce it the week or 2 before the game is released, when they start advertising it like mad. That's just smart marketing.
I've been wondering how the hell it's going to work though. I mean, I can just imagine 4 guys jumping around a room, swinging the Wii-mote around, but it's gonna be interesting to see how they do it.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 04, 2007, 06:08:48 AM
I donno where I got that from in case it wasn't.
Post by: emiiru on August 04, 2007, 07:44:14 AM
Post by: WarxePB on August 04, 2007, 09:36:48 AM
Post by: Razor on August 04, 2007, 12:29:58 PM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
But it DID come or appeared in ytmnd
That's not saying much; EVERYTHING appears on YTMND.
And Sonic, if my sources are right, that's still up in air. Apparently it's all Sega's decision.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 04, 2007, 10:41:34 PM
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Originally posted by Razor
lol Warxe, nice use of the websiteQuoteOriginally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
But it DID come or appeared in ytmnd
That's not saying much; EVERYTHING appears on YTMND.
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Then there should be nothing for you to say in the first place if we both know this. Dont know why that seems so difficult.
As for the controls, I am so hoping they re-release a gc controller with the same material and color scheme of the wii/wiimote. I'd so buy it for $30. Of course, that reality is all but a dream.
I am almost certain Sonic will be in. I am not that huge of a sonic fan, but I almost like 95% certain he will be in there. There's just too many things that lean toward that decision being made, whether it be past present or future.
Post by: Osmose on August 04, 2007, 10:56:56 PM
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Originally posted by Prpl_Mage
Wasn't there supposed to be a Wii-mote plug-in that looks like an updated GC control? So the old players will be able to have the same feeling with the new game.
I donno where I got that from in case it wasn't.
That was just a concept photoshop someone did. The classic controller covers that.
Post by: Razor on August 05, 2007, 01:09:22 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Then there should be nothing for you to say in the first place if we both know this. Dont know why that seems so difficult.
What?
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 05, 2007, 01:14:58 AM
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Originally posted by RazorQuoteOriginally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Then there should be nothing for you to say in the first place if we both know this. Dont know why that seems so difficult.
What?[/B]
Thank you.
Now for more madness, I need to find a place where I can pre-order which will guarantee me getting this game on day of launch.
Post by: Darkfox on August 05, 2007, 02:30:09 AM
Post by: WarxePB on August 05, 2007, 02:52:10 AM
Post by: Razor on August 05, 2007, 03:03:02 AM
Cause if it's made by Sega, it's really a different story.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 05, 2007, 04:30:22 AM
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Originally posted by Razor
Is that Beijing olympics thing made by Nintendo or by Sega?
Cause if it's made by Sega, it's really a different story.
Sega. Oddly however they gave mario first name position.
Sonic could still be on Brawl for promotional purpose though, kinda like how Ike is in there. PLEASE LE THIS BE TRUE
Post by: thepsynergist on August 06, 2007, 03:53:18 AM
I wish that the charas from Golden Sun were in it. Like that will ever happen.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 06, 2007, 06:22:45 AM
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Originally posted by thepsynergist
I wish that the charas from Golden Sun were in it. Like that will ever happen.
Isn't that silicon knight's production? Like Eternal Darkness, developed by some company in America or something?
Not sure about the details but I don't know if they are considered Nintendo all-stars.
Post by: Red Giant on August 06, 2007, 10:52:50 AM
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Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
lol rigged. Yeah Sonic's gonna lose the 800 metre dash. I think not.
I think Sonic kinda fits the style of smash brothers more than solid snake does.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 09, 2007, 07:08:28 AM
Anyway from the update: Palutena = hawt. No seriously that is some awesome design respawn
Post by: Razor on August 09, 2007, 08:45:19 AM
I can tell from the hair, the dress and the arm sleeve thing.
Post by: Razor on August 10, 2007, 06:40:09 AM
Do want.
Post by: SaiKar on August 10, 2007, 09:39:41 AM
Post by: WarxePB on August 10, 2007, 12:42:56 PM
Post by: Linkizcool on August 11, 2007, 06:51:32 PM
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Originally posted by lucas_irineu
SONIC IS NOT GOING TO BE IN BRAWL! I mean, is awesome and all, and would be my favorite character, but, HE IS FROM SEGA! Dont you get that?
Nintendo owns Sega. Like actually owns.
As in they bought them.
Post by: Razor on August 12, 2007, 12:20:42 AM
Post by: Rowan on August 13, 2007, 06:23:22 AM
Post by: Razor on August 13, 2007, 06:50:52 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 13, 2007, 10:38:47 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 13, 2007, 11:09:05 AM
Quote
PuroresuGrande
Posted 8/12/2007 12:05:36 PM
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DON'T ASK FOR MY SOURCE. You will not be disappointed...
There are 34 playable characters (excluding transformations).
There are 20 starting characters, 14 hidden characters.
Six characters have been removed from the last game.
One of the "Original 12" has been removed.
There are 15 newcomers (excluding transformations).
All but one of the represented franchises from Super Smash Bros. Melee will be returning.
Two character profiles will be revealed this coming week at the DOJO!! (one veteran and one newcomer).
Only reason why this was brought uo is because the newcomer isconfirmed. This can easily however be dismissed if the returning character is not confirmed.
Post by: Rowan on August 13, 2007, 12:32:35 PM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
New rumor
QuotePuroresuGrande
Posted 8/12/2007 12:05:36 PM
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DON'T ASK FOR MY SOURCE. You will not be disappointed...
There are 34 playable characters (excluding transformations).
There are 20 starting characters, 14 hidden characters.
Six characters have been removed from the last game.
One of the "Original 12" has been removed.
There are 15 newcomers (excluding transformations).
All but one of the represented franchises from Super Smash Bros. Melee will be returning.
Two character profiles will be revealed this coming week at the DOJO!! (one veteran and one newcomer).
Fake, Proof because of these 2 lines:
-Six characters have been removed from the last game.
-All but one of the represented franchises from Super Smash Bros. Melee will be returning.
To say six characters will be removed from the last game is contradicting the statement below it, since only one franchise in melee had up to 6 characters and that was the Mario franchise.
Post by: SaiKar on August 13, 2007, 01:06:26 PM
Post by: WarxePB on August 13, 2007, 01:42:53 PM
Also, it's based off of Red, the original Pokemon Trainer, rather than Ash, the main character of the anime, because Sakurai said that he wouldn't add any characters that haven't been on a Nintendo console. Ash himself has never appeared in a Pokemon game, so they chose Red. Also, Red's the only recurring Pokemon trainer in the series - he appeared in Red & Blue, as a hidden boss in GSC, and again as the protagonist of Leafgreen and Firered. If they remake GSC to be compatible with Diamond and Pearl, he'll appear in Generation IV too.
Post by: SaiKar on August 13, 2007, 03:29:49 PM
Also, sig applies.
Post by: WarxePB on August 13, 2007, 05:26:38 PM
Doesn't mean I don't agree with you, though. Red or even Ash would be a far superior name to his current generic title. Maybe you'll be able to rename him in-game or something.
EDIT: Since they're probably taking Pichu out, I guess PT is taking his spot. Does that mean we still get another playable Pokemon? I'm still looking forward to Lucario as a PC, but with this new development, I'm not so sure...
Post by: Apex on August 13, 2007, 07:18:43 PM
Post by: Razor on August 13, 2007, 07:55:00 PM
On the other hand, Ash is a whiny 12 year old.
Who would you rather fight?
Also, Harv, according to my WHACKEDOUT SOURCES the first name you could have as alternative was Red (for Pokemon Red and Blue) as well as Ash.
And I'd be happy if Pichu didn't make it through. Lighter than Jigglypuff, hurts itself with half of its attacks, and only a clone of Pikachu? Most worthless character ever.
And according to INTERNET SPECULATION Pokemans Trainer will probably have a platform to stand on, unique to himself. I'd hate to not see him in levels like Big Blue.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 13, 2007, 10:20:38 PM
And yes Red/Blue was/is the first choice before Ash in the first Pokemon games. (i still have mine, though i didnt check, but i am almost certain that is correct)
I am kinda hoping he moves with background. But a platform would make more sense, though would be a bit weird.
Post by: Red Giant on August 15, 2007, 12:21:50 AM
All that shite aside, nameless silent pokemon protagonist trainer (gogo) looks like an awesome character, and I can't wait to get my hands all over him and his balls.
Oh what's that mario? Oh you can't move in three dimensions? Oh that's too bad man because look, look I'm right here dude. Right here over here in the Z axis. You know? The one you can't traverse? Aw you gonna cry? Plumber boy gonna cry? Hydro pump NOW!
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 15, 2007, 12:31:15 AM
...
New AT is uninteresting =/
Post by: Razor on August 15, 2007, 05:13:28 AM
Devil's gonna create some crazy lulz.
Stickers? No thanks.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 15, 2007, 06:32:13 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 17, 2007, 05:54:30 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
New rumor
QuotePuroresuGrande
Posted 8/12/2007 12:05:36 PM
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DON'T ASK FOR MY SOURCE. You will not be disappointed...
There are 34 playable characters (excluding transformations).
There are 20 starting characters, 14 hidden characters.
Six characters have been removed from the last game.
One of the "Original 12" has been removed.
There are 15 newcomers (excluding transformations).
All but one of the represented franchises from Super Smash Bros. Melee will be returning.
Two character profiles will be revealed this coming week at the DOJO!! (one veteran and one newcomer).
Only reason why this was brought uo is because the newcomer isconfirmed. This can easily however be dismissed if the returning character is not confirmed.[/B]
Peach.
One new one old.
Gamefaqs is going crazy
Post by: Razor on August 17, 2007, 07:04:05 AM
Guy fails already.
Post by: SaiKar on August 17, 2007, 11:29:00 PM
Post by: Red Giant on August 17, 2007, 11:54:28 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 18, 2007, 12:07:30 PM
Post by: Razor on August 21, 2007, 06:13:40 AM
Post by: Red Giant on August 21, 2007, 10:28:27 PM
HOLY VANILLA CUPCAKES BATMAN
Oh yes that video has so hyped me up so hyped up
Oh god nintendo oh god just make a big bastketball net outside your office building so I can just throw money directly at it you can do no wrong
Seriously though, the pirahna plant? Badass. That bit where the robots come out from behind the bomb that just half a second ago was on camera clearly showing that there were no robots behind it? Also badass
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 21, 2007, 11:40:09 PM
And Petey is awesome. Trully epic. I am almost sure an epic battle between Kirby and Petey (holding the two princesses) ensues after that clip. An epic battle of 2:25 minutes.
THE WAIT IS TOO LONG
Post by: Razor on August 22, 2007, 08:11:56 AM
I still don't believe the gameFAQ guy, though.
Post by: SaiKar on August 22, 2007, 07:41:50 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 23, 2007, 06:08:52 AM
Music and Yoshi's FS!
The actual lyrics to KK Slider:
24, oh lick me wetly
It's only pee anyway
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 24, 2007, 05:58:52 AM
Post by: SaiKar on August 25, 2007, 09:06:54 PM
Post by: Razor on August 26, 2007, 05:00:04 AM
I wonder how accurate I am...
Post by: lilsniffs on August 26, 2007, 05:11:38 AM
Post by: Razor on August 27, 2007, 06:58:23 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 28, 2007, 12:51:02 AM
I wantz new character again!
Post by: Razor on August 28, 2007, 05:51:14 AM
Also, Meta Knight's moveset!
Post by: Razor on August 30, 2007, 05:59:38 AM
And a new technique that doesn't suck!
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on August 30, 2007, 11:41:38 AM
I hope tomorrow's update is the best this week.
Post by: Apex on August 30, 2007, 07:34:32 PM
Post by: Razor on August 31, 2007, 06:16:55 AM
Post by: Rowan on August 31, 2007, 11:23:08 AM
Hopefully, next week will be a bit better since it's the beginning of a whole new month.
Post by: Apex on August 31, 2007, 11:28:47 AM
Post by: treeri821 on September 01, 2007, 02:04:49 AM
Post by: WarxePB on September 01, 2007, 03:50:04 AM
Of this week's updates, though, I guessed that there would be a new item, a new assist trophy, a stage, a veteran character and more boss info. 2 right isn't too shabby, eh?
Post by: Razor on September 03, 2007, 06:52:31 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Hmm analyzing it good enough that picture with pit and mystery woman isnt palutena.
Ha!
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 03, 2007, 10:11:35 AM
Post by: Razor on September 04, 2007, 06:16:43 AM
Also, I lol'd
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Originally posted by Anonymous
diddy kong's moves could cover the screen in hot porn and i still wouldn't pick him
Post by: Apex on September 04, 2007, 11:00:38 AM
Post by: Razor on September 05, 2007, 08:34:24 AM
Post by: Apex on September 05, 2007, 10:23:21 AM
Post by: Razor on September 05, 2007, 01:18:04 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 05, 2007, 04:10:31 PM
This image has been going around some game websites. Most say its fake because of the no wi-fi logo..but, if its a fake, hell of a good one.
Post by: Razor on September 07, 2007, 05:52:53 AM
That's like a weeks worth in two days!
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 10, 2007, 05:46:56 AM
Post by: WarxePB on September 10, 2007, 01:13:31 PM
Also, My Music is cool; more chances to hear some of my favorite game tracks.
Post by: Robotam Plus on September 10, 2007, 05:27:08 PM
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Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Munchlax is apparently a very popular character over the pond, so there was a chance that it would become playable. But since it's not, this is good news for the people like me who want Lucario in. :)
Also, My Music is cool; more chances to hear some of my favorite game tracks.
You're right, playing as Lucario would be awesome. They should replace Mewtwo with with him.
Post by: Razor on September 10, 2007, 07:58:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Robotam PlusQuoteOriginally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Munchlax is apparently a very popular character over the pond, so there was a chance that it would become playable. But since it's not, this is good news for the people like me who want Lucario in. :)
Also, My Music is cool; more chances to hear some of my favorite game tracks.
You're right, playing as Lucario would be awesome. They should replace Mewtwo with with him.[/B]
No; you should die in a fire. Mewtwo = the original pokeGod.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 10, 2007, 08:02:23 PM
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Originally posted by RazorQuoteOriginally posted by Robotam PlusQuoteOriginally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Munchlax is apparently a very popular character over the pond, so there was a chance that it would become playable. But since it's not, this is good news for the people like me who want Lucario in. :)
Also, My Music is cool; more chances to hear some of my favorite game tracks.
You're right, playing as Lucario would be awesome. They should replace Mewtwo with with him.[/B]
No; you should die in a fire. Mewtwo = the original pokeGod.[/B]
Undeniably concurred.
Post by: Apex on September 10, 2007, 08:16:22 PM
Post by: Roland_Deschain on September 10, 2007, 08:23:37 PM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaserQuoteOriginally posted by Razor
No; you should die in a fire. Mewtwo = the original pokeGod.[/B]
Undeniably concurred.
[/B]
Agreed.
Post by: Robotam Plus on September 11, 2007, 03:11:32 AM
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Originally posted by RazorQuoteOriginally posted by Robotam PlusQuoteOriginally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Munchlax is apparently a very popular character over the pond, so there was a chance that it would become playable. But since it's not, this is good news for the people like me who want Lucario in. :)
Also, My Music is cool; more chances to hear some of my favorite game tracks.
You're right, playing as Lucario would be awesome. They should replace Mewtwo with with him.[/B]
No; you should die in a fire. Mewtwo = the original pokeGod.[/B]
PokeGod or not, he still had a boring moveset. And whether you like it or not, some characters from melee will likely be replaced, and I stand by my word when I say we don't need more pokemons. But I wouldn't mind if they replaced pokemons like Pichu and Mewtwo with new ones.
Post by: Vlad Shadeu on September 11, 2007, 03:35:51 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
23) Mr. Game & Watch ... Is back, but does anyone care?
i care.
Post by: Razor on September 11, 2007, 06:16:15 AM
And at a count of 493 I don't think Nintendo quite know when "too many pokemons" has been reached.
AND Pichu sucks so I hope they've done away with him never to return.
Oh right, update. Oooh, she's like Scyther and Scizor, I think.
That's two assist trophy type things in a row.
At least she shows that not all assist trophies are not so detailed like knuckle joe and that Wright fella.
Post by: Ryos4 on September 11, 2007, 06:38:06 AM
Frankly i could really care less whos in the game as long as there is Young Link and Ness in the game.
Though if they change young links down A move i will be pissed. Thats like one of his only attack that launches people. Either that or they could change his forward smash back to what it was in the original. They fked up Ness royally when they made his down attack delayed. But u got to love Ness' reflecting bat. Hes probably my second favorite character (after young link of course) with his pk thunder kamakazi attack which is also his 3rd jump recovery.
The only new character im really looking foward to is Pit. Course it makes me wonder how his jumps will be. Would it be like kirby with some odd amount of jumps or would it be more like yoshis jump where you kinda just flutter upwards. Course i also wonder if he will have 2 fighting modes or just kinda slap his bow together when hes firing an arrow. Regardless he appears to be more of a speedy combo hitter rather then a hard hitting smash monster. I hope he has atleast one good air based power hit.
Something i did find interesting was the whole pokemon trainer character. Which uses the Charizard squirtle and ivysaur.
Post by: Razor on September 11, 2007, 08:13:16 AM
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Originally posted by Ryos4
Would it be like kirby with some odd amount of jumps or would it be more like yoshis jump where you kinda just flutter upwards.
Kirby.
Post by: Ryos4 on September 11, 2007, 08:21:48 AM
Post by: Razor on September 11, 2007, 08:47:26 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 11, 2007, 11:04:32 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 11, 2007, 11:26:47 AM
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Originally posted by Vlad ShadeuQuoteOriginally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
23) Mr. Game & Watch ... Is back, but does anyone care?
i care.[/B]
And that wasn't me saying that, I copied and pasted what someone had posted.
Post by: WarxePB on September 11, 2007, 02:06:44 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 12, 2007, 01:02:37 AM
Post by: Razor on September 12, 2007, 06:56:46 AM
Wolf = do want, incredibly unlikey, if at all
btw, about freakin' time
Halberd ftw
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 12, 2007, 10:54:14 PM
And snake, but i doubt we'll get a profile yet.
Post by: Razor on September 13, 2007, 06:09:09 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 11:30:46 AM
Post by: GaryCXJk on September 13, 2007, 04:30:07 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 08:32:20 PM
http://gamexlife.net/index.html
Post by: SaiKar on September 13, 2007, 09:09:07 PM
But yeah. Could Brawl look any cooler? All these customization options alone do it for me.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 14, 2007, 11:32:51 AM
Post by: Razor on September 17, 2007, 08:53:53 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 17, 2007, 07:15:37 PM
Post by: SaiKar on September 18, 2007, 06:09:32 AM
Post by: Razor on September 18, 2007, 06:50:19 AM
Did you notice? At least 5 letters in a name!
Post by: Apex on September 18, 2007, 10:37:55 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 18, 2007, 11:40:03 AM
Post by: WarxePB on September 18, 2007, 12:26:35 PM
Some Japanese magazine had confirmed it a few weeks ago, but now we know for sure. Brawl will OWN.
Post by: Shady Ultima on September 18, 2007, 05:15:53 PM
I was just waiting for them to announce that it goes online!
Post by: Rowan on September 18, 2007, 06:07:15 PM
This is why you should never get your hopes to high or else you could find disappointment in the end. The complainer's and many others brought their own expectations to high. It's over-hyped.
Post by: Razor on September 18, 2007, 07:57:50 PM
Without stats and with anonymous online-play, Sakurai is continuing to enforce his "play Brawl for fun" mindset, as opposed to those people who like to play hardcore Melee tournaments with the items off, Fox only, Final Destination and what not. I hate those guys, which is what makes Sakurai awesome.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 18, 2007, 09:10:44 PM
NO WI-FI.
NO ITEMS.
FINAL DESTINATION.
Post by: Apex on September 18, 2007, 09:11:36 PM
Post by: Razor on September 19, 2007, 07:43:25 AM
In other news, holy God Batman, epic week is retaining epic! I hope it's not going to be a big disappointment tomorrow.
Post by: Red Giant on September 19, 2007, 04:50:44 PM
Tally-sh*tting-ho
Post by: Razor on September 21, 2007, 06:13:39 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 21, 2007, 06:20:07 AM
Post by: WarxePB on September 21, 2007, 08:55:42 PM
Snake is going to be a blast to play as (screw puns). Guided missiles are probably my most favorite weapon in FPS', and his other weapons look pretty awesome.
The question is, is that proxy mine his down B? Or is the cardboard box?
Post by: Razor on September 21, 2007, 10:35:05 PM
the box could be his B down, or his shield (note: Yoshi's egg shield)
Post by: Rowan on September 26, 2007, 09:23:43 PM
P.S: I was hoping Mr. Resseti was the AC character =((((((
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 26, 2007, 09:29:14 PM
And METROD for great justice
Post by: Shady Ultima on September 26, 2007, 09:46:44 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 26, 2007, 10:50:31 PM
Sadly the thread just reached it's limits. I was going to post last but my pc lagged just before i hit the submit button. Bu it was a thread of epic proportions XD XD
Post by: Razor on September 26, 2007, 11:15:35 PM
Post by: Djanki on September 27, 2007, 03:15:57 PM
Post by: SaiKar on September 27, 2007, 05:46:13 PM
Post by: Red Giant on September 27, 2007, 08:03:59 PM
Srsly dudes I'm still kinda psyched about the wifi play dudes. Who's up for some international brawling once this b*tch gets off the ground?
Just gotta check the european release da- QI 2008 ARGABARGABARGALAGH
Post by: Rowan on September 27, 2007, 11:05:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SaiKar
Boring update week is boring.
This week did suck. Too many Final Smashes.
Look on the bright side, we are now a week closer to brawl.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 27, 2007, 11:15:00 PM
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Originally posted by Red Giant
Srsly dudes I'm still kinda psyched about the wifi play dudes. Who's up for some international brawling once this b*tch gets off the ground?
Just gotta check the european release da- QI 2008 ARGABARGABARGALAGH
YEAH!
I'll personally own all your hoes!
Post by: WarxePB on September 28, 2007, 03:28:03 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 28, 2007, 06:16:42 AM
Tourney.
PAPA
Post by: Razor on October 01, 2007, 06:22:01 AM
But does that mean Ness is gone for good? NOBODY KNOWS.
Post by: WarxePB on October 01, 2007, 11:43:09 AM
Post by: Razor on October 02, 2007, 07:44:27 AM
Holy ****. Best update EVER. Seriously. There's no topping this. The codec calls. The Shadow Moses level, complete with destructible environment! And lest we forget, METAL GEAR?! Rex AND Ray! Holy ****! That's ****ing awesome! WE GET ****ing METAL GEAR REX AND METAL GEAR RAY IN BRAWL. BEST DAY EVER.
Ever.
PS If you don't agree 1000% you're a communist and you suck.
Post by: lilsniffs3 on October 02, 2007, 10:29:14 AM
I know these chrachters are in the game.
Mario
Bowser
Link
Kirby
Wario
Pit
Zero Samus
Samus
Zelda
Snake
Lucas
Pokemon Trainer
Pikachu
Metaknight
Ike
I think the other 3rd party character will be some FF Char. They were in Mario Hoops 3-on-3, so why not a black mage (Something from FF1 to FF6).
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 02, 2007, 11:35:02 AM
Post by: GaryCXJk on October 02, 2007, 03:40:02 PM
Post by: Razor on October 03, 2007, 05:46:40 AM
Post by: lilsniffs3 on October 03, 2007, 07:23:37 PM
*Watches Snake vids.
Vincent voice= Snake voice?
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 03, 2007, 10:57:44 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 05, 2007, 05:41:01 AM
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 05, 2007, 02:48:57 PM
I just bought a gamecube basically so I could play SSB melee. Now I'm gonna have to try and buy a wii so I can play the new one since the game looks so uber cool.
Post by: Shady Ultima on October 05, 2007, 05:59:43 PM
I thought they were only showing new things in the game...
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 05, 2007, 06:11:24 PM
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Originally posted by Shady Ultima
They made an update about shielding?
I thought they were only showing new things in the game...
That would leave new players out. Also I found out how kewl the new shields look.
Post by: Rowan on October 08, 2007, 06:07:55 PM
Post by: GaryCXJk on October 08, 2007, 08:21:19 PM
Post by: WarxePB on October 08, 2007, 11:03:49 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 09, 2007, 12:33:43 AM
I am still angry abit at how nintendo gave into sex appeal, but whatever. Japanese are funky D:
Post by: Razor on October 10, 2007, 04:22:41 AM
What a way to ruin my day. (http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826130p1.html)
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 10, 2007, 04:32:04 AM
Post by: Osmose on October 10, 2007, 04:40:29 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 10, 2007, 05:04:45 AM
Post by: Rowan on October 10, 2007, 06:14:27 AM
Post by: Apex on October 10, 2007, 09:44:17 AM
Post by: Razor on October 10, 2007, 09:59:26 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 10, 2007, 11:52:08 AM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on October 10, 2007, 12:04:04 PM
Live and Learn motherfuckers.
Post by: WarxePB on October 10, 2007, 12:56:56 PM
If you look at the third-party (potential) newcomers... Metal Gear started on the NES (and Twin Snakes on the Cube), Sonic's crossing over with Mario in the upcoming Olympic Games (and has appeared on the GBA, GCN, DS and Wii) CastleVania started on the NES and has had a lot of games on Nintendo consoles (except for those Genesis ones and SotN), Megaman has been primarily on Nintendo consoles (except MM8 and X 4-8), Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest have had about half their games on Nintendo consoles (and FF crossed over with Mario in Mario Hoops 3on3, and Dragon Quest's crossing over with Mario in some game I can't remember), and PacMan's crossed over with Mario in Mario Kart GP.
And besides, Sakurai has a no guns rule; so if Master Chief was included, what would he fight with?
EDIT: Just to make sure. *pinches self* Yep, it's real.
Post by: Robotam Plus on October 10, 2007, 02:32:32 PM
At 1:13 you see Zero Suit Samus laying over Master Chief in what looks to be Super Smash Brawl.
I could be wrong though.
Post by: Bluhman on October 10, 2007, 06:07:22 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Robotam Plus
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26082.html
At 1:13 you see Zero Suit Samus laying over Master Chief in what looks to be Super Smash Brawl.
I could be wrong though.
No, no, no. That was a 3D animation that had Samus fighting against Chief in a ridiculous fantasy battle. Not official at all.
I think it was actually a bit of a satire piece as well, poking fun at the other animators that made similar, fantasy battles against two characters they liked. Yeah. In the animation shown, it was revealed that Chief was apparently a girl.
Post by: Robotam Plus on October 10, 2007, 06:34:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BluhmanQuoteOriginally posted by Robotam Plus
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26082.html
At 1:13 you see Zero Suit Samus laying over Master Chief in what looks to be Super Smash Brawl.
I could be wrong though.
No, no, no. That was a 3D animation that had Samus fighting against Chief in a ridiculous fantasy battle. Not official at all.
I think it was actually a bit of a satire piece as well, poking fun at the other animators that made similar, fantasy battles against two characters they liked. Yeah. In the animation shown, it was revealed that Chief was apparently a girl.[/B]
Thank god.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on October 10, 2007, 07:13:04 PM
Cloud next no? Both parties will get possitive response for it, advertisement and buyers...
And I think they should add more characters later that can be downloaded with Wii ponts or something.
Post by: lilsniffs3 on October 10, 2007, 07:26:54 PM
Just wait, this day will soon be a holiday.
*Spits out drink
2008年1月24日 is the new release date. Which means 1/24/07. @*&%
Post by: Rowan on October 10, 2007, 08:15:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
....(and FF crossed over with Mario in Mario Hoops 3on3, and Dragon Quest's crossing over with Mario in some game I can't remember....
Itadaki Street DS
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 10, 2007, 08:21:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Halo's never appeared on a Nintendo console, so there's no way Sakurai will put him in.
If you look at the third-party (potential) newcomers... Metal Gear started on the NES (and Twin Snakes on the Cube), Sonic's crossing over with Mario in the upcoming Olympic Games (and has appeared on the GBA, GCN, DS and Wii) CastleVania started on the NES and has had a lot of games on Nintendo consoles (except for those Genesis ones and SotN), Megaman has been primarily on Nintendo consoles (except MM8 and X 4-8), Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest have had about half their games on Nintendo consoles (and FF crossed over with Mario in Mario Hoops 3on3, and Dragon Quest's crossing over with Mario in some game I can't remember), and PacMan's crossed over with Mario in Mario Kart GP.
And besides, Sakurai has a no guns rule; so if Master Chief was included, what would he fight with?
EDIT: Just to make sure. *pinches self* Yep, it's real.
X4,5 and 6 appeared on the gamecube in the collection disk. Hopefuly that counts.
If there would be one more 3rd party, I would ask for Megaman. Then i'd see the game as trully perfect.
Or, KOS-MOS, but no matter my fanboy-ism that may be too far from reality
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 10, 2007, 08:38:16 PM
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=119912
Post by: Apex on October 10, 2007, 09:09:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by RowanQuoteOriginally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
....(and FF crossed over with Mario in Mario Hoops 3on3, and Dragon Quest's crossing over with Mario in some game I can't remember....
Itadaki Street DS[/B]
Which wasn't very fun.
Post by: coasterkrazy on October 10, 2007, 09:11:33 PM
Post by: Shady Ultima on October 10, 2007, 11:32:25 PM
Post by: Osmose on October 10, 2007, 11:44:04 PM
2. The revised release date is the Japanese release date, the American date is still Dec. 3rd.
3. Bungie, now being independent from Microsoft, is free to pursue other consoles for Halo-y goodness, including picking up the Halo DS demo which was originally rejected by the company.
Post by: Archem on October 11, 2007, 12:10:43 AM
Post by: Bluhman on October 11, 2007, 12:32:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Osmose
1. Haloid is the name of the fan movie in which Samus and a Spartan first fight eachother and then fight together. It was a serious attempt, not a satire thing - just because you see a Spartan doesn't mean it's the Master Chief, it could be one of the 100 or so other Spartans that existed at some point (I believe the author even confirmed it was the same one that appeared in Dead or Alive, which was also female).
Wait, I think I do remember the author stating that he was like upset that all the silly fan animations of characters vs. characters were getting all the views, so in retaliation, he made one of his own. Yeah. I think that was what was going on, but then again, I never was really all that big on the whole weird animation scene.
Post by: lilsniffs3 on October 11, 2007, 01:44:10 AM
Post by: Osmose on October 11, 2007, 01:57:46 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lilsniffs3
Osmose, this use to say Dec 3rd
...well that's just gay. :|
Post by: Shady Ultima on October 11, 2007, 03:26:33 AM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on October 11, 2007, 03:38:55 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 11, 2007, 04:27:13 AM
Quote
Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Shady, its Smash Bros Brawl. They could make you reenact the Holocaust and still make money.
I agree with -100% x -1%
In the site, it sounds like Sakurai is trying to make the release on the day already stated. I am crossing everything I have. EVEN DRESSES
Post by: Shady Ultima on October 11, 2007, 02:26:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Shady, its Smash Bros Brawl. They could make you reenact the Holocaust and still make money.
Yes, they will make money, but release day sales will not be as high. The Christmas season is the best time to release games, systems, movies, etc. and releasing immediately AFTER that (as it says on Wiki Jan 24/08) is really really bad for releasing games. People spend a lot of money at Christmas, and then don't buy much until at least Feb. I know it will still sell, but not as well as if they release it in Dec.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on October 11, 2007, 03:26:57 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 11, 2007, 04:14:51 PM
is 50 bucks for a thursday/friday ticket, and I am just a 3 hour drive away. I AM SO HANGING ON THE DECISION.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 11, 2007, 07:49:27 PM
Apperantly Nintendo will add more work to the Wi-Fi compability.
Also, new videos are showing up of gameplay
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2007/10/11/watch-how-to-play-super-smash-bros-brawl-using-the-wii-mote/
http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748545/vids_1.html
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/15401
http://gamevideos.com/video/id/15372
http://gamevideos.com/video/id/15373
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2007/10/11/watch-how-to-play-%e2%80%9csuper-smash-bros-brawl%e2%80%9d-using-the-classic-controller/
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_2hcuNWPxR8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qYMF1BjHUbM
http://www.gamespot.com/video/928518/6180852/super-smash-bros-brawl-gameplay-demo (best looking one, is one of the first ones combined)
http://www.gamepro.com/nintendo/wii/games/previews/139928.shtml (peach's fs at the end)
http://www.gamespot.com/video/928518/6180868/super-smash-bros-brawl-nintendo-media-summit-2007-interview
(more than one FS per character and match)
http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748545/vids_2.html (smashville)
http://gamevideos.com/video/id/15422 (sudden death match)
To see official game box :
http://press.nintendo.com/object?id=9713
if it asks for password:
User:guest
Password:nintendo
(for guest viewable content only)
In case you're wondering, it's exactly the same picture I posted on this thread a few pages back
Post by: GaryCXJk on October 12, 2007, 01:37:02 PM
Post by: Red Giant on October 12, 2007, 02:10:17 PM
Yoshi and Mario dry humping! More like Super SLASHFIC Brothers lulz
*screw captain falcon dudes.
Post by: GaryCXJk on October 14, 2007, 10:01:28 PM
... was replaced with Rick Wheeler?
Like, will the majority commit suicide?
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 14, 2007, 10:21:38 PM
Post by: Bluhman on October 14, 2007, 10:37:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GaryCXJk
Hey, what would you guys do if Captain Falcon...
... was replaced with Rick Wheeler?
Like, will the majority commit suicide?
So long as they function similarly. CF was my main in SSBM.
Post by: Boba_Fettuccini on October 15, 2007, 03:38:34 AM
Post by: Razor on October 15, 2007, 09:51:49 PM
However, a Jigglypuffesque character has been sighted using Sing from a pokeball, so that does not bode well.
Post by: lilsniffs3 on October 15, 2007, 09:57:44 PM
Captain Falcon.... Who cares
Dragon Quest? I don't give a damn.
Ness? HELL NO. The one replacing is Lucas.
Rick Wheeler? Who?
Jigglypuff? Highly
:mrT: ? 99.99% chance, fool.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 15, 2007, 10:22:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Razor
However, a Jigglypuffesque character has been sighted using Sing from a pokeball, so that does not bode well.
Pics or it didn't happen. I might've missed. I missed when Peach's FS does a quadrillion damage
Post by: Archem on October 16, 2007, 03:11:48 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lilsniffs3
I think Shadow isn't in because he probably is another costume for Sonic.
Captain Falcon.... Who cares
Dragon Quest? I don't give a damn.
Ness? HELL NO. The one replacing is Lucas.
Rick Wheeler? Who?
Jigglypuff? Highly
:mrT: ? 99.99% chance, fool.
This whole post is made of fail and suck.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on October 16, 2007, 03:33:07 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lilsniffs3
I think Shadow isn't in because he probably is another costume for Sonic.
Captain Falcon.... Who cares
Dragon Quest? I don't give a damn.
Ness? HELL NO. The one replacing is Lucas.
Rick Wheeler? Who?
Jigglypuff? Highly
:mrT: ? 99.99% chance, fool.
Captain Falcon rocks.
Dragon Quest characters aren't consistent to bother.
Ness > Lucas
Rick Wheeler was the shitty idea of a main character for the F-ZERO GP Legend anime series. He was a bitch.
Jigglypuff is cool.
Mr.T would suck.
You're a moron.
Post by: Razor on October 16, 2007, 05:32:02 AM
Post by: lilsniffs3 on October 16, 2007, 10:53:44 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 16, 2007, 11:35:32 AM
Kumatora > Lucas = Ness
Post by: Razor on October 16, 2007, 07:36:53 PM
------------------------------
*generic list*
NOTICE THE ABSENCE OF KIJUKI
THERE IS A REASON FOR THIS
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 16, 2007, 10:47:58 PM
Also; I reaaaally liked the update. Despite how boring it seems.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on October 16, 2007, 11:31:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Razor
I agree with ZeroKirbyX 1000%.
Hey, neat.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 19, 2007, 06:39:19 PM
Specially the ones about SSE on gametrailers.
Post by: Razor on October 21, 2007, 05:31:40 AM
you pick it up and everyone else shrinks
Post by: Djanki on October 22, 2007, 11:34:55 AM
Post by: Razor on October 22, 2007, 11:45:33 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 23, 2007, 03:58:18 AM
Post by: Ben on October 23, 2007, 04:18:07 AM
Not because hes cool. Just cause.
Post by: Shady Ultima on October 24, 2007, 02:27:17 AM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/10/19
Post by: Razor on October 25, 2007, 06:14:31 AM
**** YES YOU ARE THE BEST UPDATE EVER
Post by: Apex on October 25, 2007, 10:09:45 AM
Post by: Razor on October 25, 2007, 10:29:39 AM
It'll be generic Animal Crossing character.
Post by: Rowan on October 25, 2007, 10:39:42 AM
Post by: Apex on October 25, 2007, 10:53:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Razor
Spoilers: Tom Nook will not be a playable character.
It'll be generic Animal Crossing character.
Pffft, I'll believe it when I see it.
Who gives you the right to pass that kind of judgment anyways, there are no curtains until it's strait from Sakurai's mouth, and even then, there is about a 2% chance he isn't telling the whole truth.
(Release date, and Smash Balls only being usable once per person per match.)
Post by: Razor on October 26, 2007, 07:54:51 AM
Dedede's B-up is similar to his attack in Dreamland, which is cool.
And so is spawning various villains. Maybe Kracko will be his Final Smash.
Post by: Razor on October 29, 2007, 05:57:07 AM
ABSOLUTE BEST UPDATE EVER
Stage editor = INFINITE POSSIBILITES
Bramble Blast = Greatest music from DKC2 confirmed for Brawl! Probably.
Post by: Apex on October 29, 2007, 09:10:36 AM
Post by: SaiKar on October 29, 2007, 05:35:31 PM
Post by: lilsniffs3 on October 29, 2007, 06:03:08 PM
Post by: coasterkrazy on October 29, 2007, 10:46:31 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 30, 2007, 04:10:44 AM
I can wait though.
I just need to buy another Wii.
Post by: Archem on October 30, 2007, 04:28:03 AM
Seriously, how could you even SAY that you'd rather have it sooner instead of way awesomer?!
Post by: SaiKar on October 30, 2007, 09:55:26 AM
Besides, it's a game, not the second coming of Christ. It's going to have its high points, it's going to have it's flaws. It's never going to be perfect and I'm not the most patient person in the world.
Post by: Razor on October 30, 2007, 06:44:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SaiKar
Besides, it's a game, not the second coming of Christ.
Certainly getting that way though.
I can't even comprehend what Sakurai will do next.
Post by: Archem on October 30, 2007, 07:12:31 PM
Post by: MrMister on October 30, 2007, 09:59:33 PM
Post by: coasterkrazy on October 31, 2007, 12:25:34 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SaiKar
Because I'm in college, and I don't get to see all my friends whenever I want. Christmas break is an extremely convienent time when most people are off work and likely have a few days off. A level design feature is cool, but honestly I'd rather be able to gather up the old group and give it a shot when I know everyone will be around. Who knows when my next chance will be now.
Besides, it's a game, not the second coming of Christ. It's going to have its high points, it's going to have it's flaws. It's never going to be perfect and I'm not the most patient person in the world.
Um... contradiction? "Who knows when my next chance will be now." "Besides, it's a game, not the second coming of Christ." Don't take that the wrong way...
Post by: Shady Ultima on October 31, 2007, 01:09:48 AM
Quote
Originally posted by MrMister
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Galaxy#Cancellation
Um... what?
Post by: Bluhman on October 31, 2007, 01:16:08 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Shady Ultima
Um... what?
Eh. I think he just went insane or something.
(The word Cancellation isn't actually listed anywhere on that article, oddly enough.)
Post by: lilsniffs3 on October 31, 2007, 01:37:44 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros_Brawl#Playable_characters#Lilsniffs
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 31, 2007, 01:38:58 AM
Post by: Razor on October 31, 2007, 07:38:42 AM
Sliding level looks fun. I bet the sliding down the mountain part will be similar to Big Blue, aka awesome.
What's the fish from, though?
Post by: Apex on October 31, 2007, 10:01:26 AM
I could have sworn that todays update would have been alternate costumes.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on October 31, 2007, 11:22:43 AM
Post by: Red Giant on October 31, 2007, 04:43:34 PM
Who else does everyone think they got up their sleeves? I'm guessing that there will be at least one more third party character. This is only based on the fact that each 3rd party character so far has had a "/name enters the brawl!" vid and, personally, I wouldn't bother with those if there were any less than three to present. But maybe that's just me? MEGAMAN PLZ
Also, I was trying to think of nintendo franchises that haven't been included t'other day, and I remembered: the nintendo wars series! That's been a pretty big hit, right? And I'd be all over a "wars"-themed level!
Post by: Razor on October 31, 2007, 06:12:03 PM
She's a perfect candidate! Her came played on the X/Y axis, and her moves could be something like
B up: Jetpack thing
B forward: SHAKE SHAKE
B: SHAKE SHAKE
B down: SHAKE SHAKE
And her final smash, she could shake the screen and kill everyone. Perfect!
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on November 01, 2007, 01:16:19 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Razor
When I said Dedede was the only character I wanted in, that was a lie. I remembered that I also want Marina from Mischief Makers.
She's a perfect candidate! Her came played on the X/Y axis, and her moves could be something like
B up: Jetpack thing
B forward: SHAKE SHAKE
B: SHAKE SHAKE
B down: SHAKE SHAKE
And her final smash, she could shake the screen and kill everyone. Perfect!
YES ******* YES.
I love Megaman, but if they'd give me a choice I would so pick Marina.
That game was damn freaking awesome =/
Post by: Razor on November 01, 2007, 06:54:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Razor
Her came
whoops.
Also, yes, it was.
Also, there are a lot of rumours going around that the other character might be Sora.
Say it with me people, DO NOT WANT.
Post by: Ben on November 01, 2007, 07:21:37 PM
If they are going to his the non-disney end of that franchise there are soooo many better possibilities to go with.
Even if they did hit the disney end....
Still many many possibilites.
Sora can pretty much gtfo
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on November 01, 2007, 07:46:50 PM
No focking lie.
Post by: Razor on November 02, 2007, 06:42:32 AM
Character intros today, a very nice thing that most people already know are confirmed.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on November 02, 2007, 01:17:21 PM
Post by: Shady Ultima on November 02, 2007, 01:39:58 PM
I'd much prefer to see a villain from the FF series, or one of the lesser known characters. I think Red Mage would be cool :
Post by: Red Giant on November 03, 2007, 06:08:40 AM
That or I'm just over-analysing too much. DAMNIT DAILY UPDATES IS NOT ENOUGH. I WANT HOURLY FUGGIN UPDATES WITH VIDEOS
Final fantasy characters I don't think are gunna be making appearances. SQUENIX H8Z NINTENDO. It'd have to be from an owld game or from crystal chronicles...which no-one plays. No, I wouldn't bother trying to get the rights if it were me.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on November 05, 2007, 10:23:34 AM
Post by: Razor on November 05, 2007, 06:54:10 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on November 07, 2007, 11:33:07 AM
Post by: lilsniffs3 on November 08, 2007, 03:41:39 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on November 08, 2007, 05:58:19 AM
Post by: Razor on November 08, 2007, 07:22:08 AM
More of a "so far"
Post by: lilsniffs3 on November 09, 2007, 01:37:53 AM
Post by: WarxePB on November 09, 2007, 04:13:10 AM
Also, Gray Fox is good news. 3rd-party ATs means that we'll more than likely see some Sonic ATs, like Tails, Knuckles or *shudder* Shadow. Likewise with any other 3rd-party characters who get in (if Megaman gets in, we'll probably see Proto Man and Bass).
Post by: lilsniffs3 on November 09, 2007, 04:16:02 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
3rd-party ATs means that we'll more than likely see some Sonic ATs, like Tails, Knuckles or *shudder* Shadow.
Shadow=Costume of Sonic, I wish.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on November 09, 2007, 04:45:00 AM
Also lilsniffs, I do wonder why it appears there on google.
I think it has you strung into this thread, which then is strung to wiki or w/e
Post by: lilsniffs3 on November 09, 2007, 04:46:30 AM
Post by: Razor on November 09, 2007, 05:46:24 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on November 09, 2007, 02:33:58 PM
Post by: SaiKar on November 10, 2007, 12:16:56 AM
I'm getting progressively more saddened about how levels seem to be very small thin platforms hanging over an abyss of nothing. Even that stupid Earthbound level was like that, and they said that was on the scope of the Temple.
Here's hoping for classic levels to make a comeback.
Post by: Rowan on November 10, 2007, 03:26:02 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SaiKar
So many Metroid Prime locations and they chose Norfair again? The hell?
I'm getting progressively more saddened about how levels seem to be very small thin platforms hanging over an abyss of nothing. Even that stupid Earthbound level was like that, and they said that was on the scope of the Temple.
Here's hoping for classic levels to make a comeback.
..or you could make your own :P
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on November 10, 2007, 11:22:17 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SaiKar
So many Metroid Prime locations and they chose Norfair again? The hell?
I'm getting progressively more saddened about how levels seem to be very small thin platforms hanging over an abyss of nothing. Even that stupid Earthbound level was like that, and they said that was on the scope of the Temple.
Here's hoping for classic levels to make a comeback.
I second this.
Temple was my all time favorite.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 10, 2007, 12:05:46 PM
Stages with 1-5 platforms
Stages with a platform that moves around and then land somewhere.
Dull, almost flat stages without anything special.
Yeah, go Hal inc... Give us some more goodies, you made the game come later after all.
Post by: Apex on November 10, 2007, 01:21:13 PM
Quote
Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaserQuoteOriginally posted by SaiKar
So many Metroid Prime locations and they chose Norfair again? The hell?
I'm getting progressively more saddened about how levels seem to be very small thin platforms hanging over an abyss of nothing. Even that stupid Earthbound level was like that, and they said that was on the scope of the Temple.
Here's hoping for classic levels to make a comeback.
I second this.
Temple was my all time favorite.[/B]
Am I the only one who didn't like Temple?
Post by: WarxePB on November 10, 2007, 02:41:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SaiKar
So many Metroid Prime locations and they chose Norfair again? The hell?
Metroid Prime is apparently unpopular over in Japan. Hence, Sakurai based her Power Suit off of Metroid Zero Mission, and is using Norfair as a stage rather than the Artifact Temple, Aether or SkyTown. And who knows? Maybe we'll see another Metroid stage inspired by Prime.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on November 11, 2007, 12:56:24 AM
Quote
Originally posted by ApexQuoteOriginally posted by HackersTotalMassLaserQuoteOriginally posted by SaiKar
So many Metroid Prime locations and they chose Norfair again? The hell?
I'm getting progressively more saddened about how levels seem to be very small thin platforms hanging over an abyss of nothing. Even that stupid Earthbound level was like that, and they said that was on the scope of the Temple.
Here's hoping for classic levels to make a comeback.
I second this.
Temple was my all time favorite.[/B]
Am I the only one who didn't like Temple?[/B]
Nop. You should know a lot of people like FINAL DESTINATION
Post by: Archem on November 11, 2007, 04:41:03 AM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 11, 2007, 06:14:07 AM
Post by: Razor on November 11, 2007, 06:28:30 AM
Quote
Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
NO HAIR. NO FRAMES. MUTE CITY.
Oh no you did not
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on November 16, 2007, 05:44:00 AM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 17, 2007, 01:22:02 AM
Quote
Originally posted by RazorQuoteOriginally posted by ZeroKirbyX
NO HAIR. NO FRAMES. MUTE CITY.
Oh no you did not[/B]
Oh why yes I did. I have actually gotten that spread amongst me and my Melee friends. I thank ye.
Post by: zixen1 on November 30, 2007, 09:31:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lucas_irineu
SONIC IS NOT GOING TO BE IN BRAWL! I mean, is awesome and all, and would be my favorite character, but, HE IS FROM SEGA! Dont you get that?
u fukin idiot nintendo bought sega like 10 yeasr ago lol *spamlas*
Post by: ellie-is on November 30, 2007, 09:59:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by zixen1QuoteOriginally posted by lucas_irineu
SONIC IS NOT GOING TO BE IN BRAWL! I mean, is awesome and all, and would be my favorite character, but, HE IS FROM SEGA! Dont you get that?
u fukin idiot nintendo bought sega like 10 yeasr ago lol *spamlas* [/B]
I dont know when I posted this, but, huh, whatever, just forget this post. o.o
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on December 01, 2007, 01:43:56 AM
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Originally posted by zixen1QuoteOriginally posted by lucas_irineu
SONIC IS NOT GOING TO BE IN BRAWL! I mean, is awesome and all, and would be my favorite character, but, HE IS FROM SEGA! Dont you get that?
u fukin idiot nintendo bought sega like 10 yeasr ago lol *spamlas* [/B]
...Are you a moron? Really?
Post by: Razor on December 14, 2007, 05:27:22 AM
We hardly knew ye. :domosai:
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on December 24, 2007, 01:59:44 AM
"mashing the holiday hopes and dreams of MegaMan and Smash Bros. fans everywhere, Keiji Inafune [Megaman's Creator] has stated uncategorically that at this time, Megaman is not going to be a character in Super Smash Brothers Brawl. In the most recent Bionic Commando podcast, Inafune says:
""Well, I really do love Super Smash Brothers. It's a great series...but, Nintendo hasn't asked me yet if they can use Mega Man in their game. I'm still waiting...we have a little bit of time left, it's not coming out for another few months. They might get around to asking us if we'd like to put Mega Man in Super Smash Brothers. Maybe if somebody from Nintendo is listening to this podcast, they'll give me a call.
""
I know this is going to come as quite a blow to all of you out there had been keeping your fingers crossed for Megaman's appearance, but it looks like you're out of luck this time. Or are you? As he says "we still have a little bit of time left." But will it be enough time for some last minute coding?"
They were willing ;.; Why nintendo why?
Post by: coasterkrazy on December 24, 2007, 04:37:27 AM
Post by: Blue_Strife on December 24, 2007, 07:02:50 PM
Lawl.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on December 24, 2007, 07:08:34 PM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on December 24, 2007, 08:11:49 PM
Post by: Blue_Strife on December 25, 2007, 12:54:41 AM
But yeah, X would RAEP.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on December 28, 2007, 05:32:34 AM
Post by: Blue_Strife on December 28, 2007, 06:40:54 AM
Mmm.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on December 29, 2007, 08:43:17 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 05, 2008, 03:16:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=377oTsXAC7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft-2Aiio7iY
EDIT: New commercial
http://wii.com/jp/movies/wii-cm-soft83/
I'd like for the American version not to be "Wii would like to play" commercials <<
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 09, 2008, 05:17:26 AM
Post by: Razor on January 09, 2008, 05:17:28 AM
this very news has broken websites
Post by: Apex on January 09, 2008, 11:11:57 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 10, 2008, 11:43:56 PM
Zelda's FS
and supposedly confirming Shiek as Zelda's Tranformation. However, I remin skeptical, because that card is not legiable, and no one has been able to give me a translation source.
Post by: Razor on January 15, 2008, 05:18:37 AM
I lol'd
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 15, 2008, 05:39:33 AM
Post by: coasterkrazy on January 15, 2008, 08:23:44 AM
Fk you indeed.
Post by: Apex on January 15, 2008, 08:31:29 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 16, 2008, 04:54:18 AM
Scans:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=228511
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 18, 2008, 11:16:45 AM
if by next week, there is nothing of true leaks or any leaks confirmed, then Sakurai needs to be a spy.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on January 18, 2008, 07:55:11 PM
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 18, 2008, 08:17:03 PM
I still feel like seeing her moves, they said that they would revamp a couple of characters so I hope that she will get some more moves that actually make her come closer to the target and not just the simple one-muscle-movent.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 18, 2008, 08:31:04 PM
Expect more insightful info tonight.
There'll be another demo playable in japan with perhaps characters that haven't been playable yet.
Post by: Apex on January 21, 2008, 12:18:14 PM
Three Character leaks were released today, during a video demonstration, a sticker sheet revealed three characters that haven't been announced yet, Ness, Jiggly Puff and Lucario.
brawlcentral.com has a story and the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfb2l-iYlRo
This is the video, look at 4:20 - 4:22 (All stoner puns aside.)
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 22, 2008, 02:09:03 AM
And i love mewtwo, but i think he's cut -_-
And brawlcentral is a piece of incoherent s***.
Post by: coasterkrazy on January 22, 2008, 02:17:30 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
I HATE HATE HATE LUCARIO.
I couldn't agree more. WHY LUCARIO? Seriously, when diamond and pearl came out, they advertised him like he was the biggest deal, yet he really has nothing much to do with anything. He's just... there. I couldn't even figure out where to catch one.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 22, 2008, 05:20:06 AM
Why else did they add him in Blue/red rescue team dungeon crawler pkmn game? He's just been advertisement for the latest generation and no one knows why... Fighting|Steel pfft. Pretty darn useless.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 22, 2008, 12:41:50 PM
Post by: coasterkrazy on January 22, 2008, 06:44:04 PM
Post by: Apex on January 23, 2008, 11:06:03 AM
Besides, he was very useful in Diamond/Pearl, you got him from a guy on an island after you cleared out Team Rocket. (I forgot what they're called in that one.)
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 23, 2008, 11:21:23 AM
yes he was a in a movie, which sucked.
Post by: coasterkrazy on January 23, 2008, 07:35:47 PM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on January 23, 2008, 08:11:33 PM
Lucario
Riolu
Lameasses
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 29, 2008, 01:53:37 AM
FARKING WIN
Post by: Razor on January 29, 2008, 09:09:40 AM
Post by: Apex on January 29, 2008, 10:58:22 AM
http://s259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/KazeSSBB/?start=0
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 29, 2008, 03:02:38 PM
Post by: lucid on January 29, 2008, 03:23:17 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 29, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
Post by: Blue_Strife on January 30, 2008, 02:22:37 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
He's in. Most recent roster http://ranobe.com/up/src/up254037.jpg
o.o
Post by: coasterkrazy on January 30, 2008, 02:38:05 AM
EDIT: Talking about the really most recent one posted in the first post. Obviously, everyone knows Wario is in it.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 30, 2008, 03:31:14 AM
According to a roster leak a month ago, wolf is the only one missing
Post by: Apex on January 30, 2008, 11:09:41 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 30, 2008, 05:10:13 PM
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/KazeSSBB/up254176.jpg
Sakurai you lameass lazy person D: He worked so much in many other modes that he forgot to add good characters >.< There's like 8 clones
Post by: DarkFlood2 on January 30, 2008, 07:43:08 PM
Luigi victory and Final Smash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LckvnqXmujc
Ike victory, Metaknight and Pikachu Final Smash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R27fx8sJL8&feature=user
Zelda victory, Mario Final Smash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGEXUEdQvKg
Gameplay vids, the sound is messed up so just mute it.
Metaknight Classic mode gameplay (part 1): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFFpfFFrJC8&feature=user
Metaknight Classic mode gameplay (part 2): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVQVWMiC1ME&feature=user
Metaknight Classic mode gameplay (part 3): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2lqA4by_QU&feature=user
Post by: Apex on January 30, 2008, 09:07:24 PM
Post by: HobomasterXXX on January 31, 2008, 03:38:21 AM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Final roster:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/KazeSSBB/up254176.jpg
Sakurai you lameass lazy person D: He worked so much in many other modes that he forgot to add good characters >.< There's like 8 clones
Good job, you used up your bandwith.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on January 31, 2008, 05:57:50 AM
oh well i dont have the last roster pic, but this is one witht he last char still missing
Post by: HobomasterXXX on January 31, 2008, 06:03:21 AM
EDIT: Not that it'll affect me anyway, im gonna get a ps3 before wii *braces for gunfire*
IMPORTANT EDIT
Wolf is the final character. Cloneish, but different. He has at least one different B move, different A moves, and a different FS (apparently)
Post by: Apex on January 31, 2008, 11:00:24 AM
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Originally posted by dudewheresmymount
if the final char is a clone... there will be blood....
EDIT: Not that it'll affect me anyway, im gonna get a ps3 before wii *braces for gunfire*
IMPORTANT EDIT
Wolf is the final character. Cloneish, but different. He has at least one different B move, different A moves, and a different FS (apparently)
No, he has the same FS, A red Landmaster tank.
Post by: HobomasterXXX on February 01, 2008, 05:57:39 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 01, 2008, 11:55:56 AM
All FSes in action.
yes Wolf, Fox, and Falco share the same fs
So do Link and Toon Link
Post by: DarkFlood2 on February 02, 2008, 10:20:50 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 02, 2008, 11:07:02 PM
Post by: coasterkrazy on February 03, 2008, 01:54:07 AM
Post by: thepsynergist on February 07, 2008, 01:47:41 AM
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Originally posted by lucas_irineu
SONIC IS NOT GOING TO BE IN BRAWL! I mean, is awesome and all, and would be my favorite character, but, HE IS FROM SEGA! Dont you get that?
Hahahahahahahahaha!
Also, there is going to be a SSBB Tournament in June. I am entering w/ Marth, because I kick *** w/ him. I can beat Classic Mode Very Hard, w/ one life. I think I am ready.
Post by: WarxePB on February 10, 2008, 05:20:16 AM
Torrent file of all of the BGMs in the game. There's some awesome tracks in there - I suggest a download.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 10, 2008, 09:44:31 AM
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Originally posted by thepsynergist
Also, there is going to be a SSBB Tournament in June. I am entering w/ Marth, because I kick *** w/ him. I can beat Classic Mode Very Hard, w/ one life. I think I am ready.
Here is a crapfact. We in europe will most probably get Brawl around June/July so all of you Americans and such will be so far ahead of us when we haven't even start playing....
But yeah... After the deletion of DrMario I'm stuck at Marth, feels kinda sad since I could do pretty much everything with that self-pronounced doctor.
Post by: ellie-is on February 10, 2008, 12:56:13 PM
Well, but first, I need to get a wii XD
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 10, 2008, 02:01:49 PM
It tremendiously awesome.
Post by: Apex on February 10, 2008, 04:21:48 PM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on February 10, 2008, 07:16:27 PM
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Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
http://xane.gamez-interactive.de/Pub/Downloads/Misc/NochMISCer/SmashBrosBrawlOST.torrent (http://ttp://xane.gamez-interactive.de/Pub/Downloads/Misc/NochMISCer/SmashBrosBrawlOST.torrent)
Torrent file of all of the BGMs in the game. There's some awesome tracks in there - I suggest a download.
I... I love you...
Post by: SaiKar on February 12, 2008, 05:20:51 AM
If they release the OST in CD form I'd pay a good amount of money for it, just because I support the whole concept of remastering old classics so well like they've done here.
Post by: Red Giant on February 12, 2008, 09:02:08 PM
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Originally posted by Apex
I am so sick of hearing about Tiers in Melee, and now it's starting to pop up in this game. People are only good with characters they choose to be, there isn't some magical set of unbalanced characters that kick ***, there are just those characters that people flock to under that guise.
Like it or not french fry, where there is variance there is natural selection. Fact 'o' lyfe. I'm sure Sakurai's doin' his absolute darndest to level the playing field, but it's never gonna be completely
Fact is that the concept of balance itself is really an illusion. One imagines that a slow, strong character will be, if tweaked right, equal in merit to a fast, weak character. But that ain't not no way the case. Give both characters to two equally ultra-skilled players and the fast one comes out on top because he can pre-empt the slow attacks.
Fox really does beat absolute ***.
Mewtwo really does suck.
From a practical point of view, of course.
Mewtwo is hella cool and I want him back :(
Post by: RuneBlade on February 12, 2008, 10:56:43 PM
Post by: GaryCXJk on February 16, 2008, 05:54:54 PM
Even though the moves have different outcomes or different animations, in the end they're still the same.
So, here's the sad fact:
Neutral B
Fox: Blaster
Falco: Blaster
Wolf: Blaster
Even though one stuns and one is slower, they are all blasters. Anyone denying that they're still the same, despite the fact that they all use guns, is a complete tool. I don't care if it shoots lasers, plasma, stun beams, semen, feces, piss, it's still a blaster.
Side B
Fox: Dash (Fox Illusion)
Falco: Dash (Falco Phantasm)
Wolf: Dash (one that goes a bit into the air)
Again, three different moves with still the same outcome. They all dash forward. I don't care if they go straight, in the air, in the ground, inside your anus, leave holograms, illusions, shadows or skid marks, they are still dashes.
Up B
Fox: Upwards thrust (Fire Fox)
Falco: Upwards thrust (Fire Falco)
Wolf: Upwards thrust (which doesn't lag, and apparently has a wind effect)
You've guessed it, they are still upwards thrust. I don't care if the attack has lag or not or that it leaves fire, wind or farts, you can't deny the fact that it's an upwards thrust.
Down B
Fox: Reflector
Falco: Reflector
Wolf: Reflector
And here we have three moves which have the same outcome, only Falco kicks it forward and Wolf's only reflects from the sides apparently. But the sad fact is that they still reflect. It doesn't matter if they reflect in all directions or just one, or if they only reflect projectiles or crap thrown at them, they still reflect.
Final Smash
Fox: Landmaster
Falco: Landmaster
Wolf: Landmaster
Seriously, who needs explanation?
Post by: Red Giant on February 17, 2008, 12:30:54 AM
I mean cloning is one thing but that sh*t is non-canon.
I like wolf. I really don't mind him being a modified clone. In fact that's how I want him. What I do mind is that now wolf seems more similar to fox than luigi does to mario, while samus is left to sit alone flicking wistfully through stellar reviews of the Prime series and wondering if things like "genre defining", or "third best game ever made" (http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y) really mean anything anymore, glancing up only occasionally when the sound of kirby, metaknight and king dedede conversing about their unique movesets or about how underrated kirby's fucking air ride was becomes a little too loud to ignore.
Brawl is gonna kick ***. But sakurai needs to get his priorities in order.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 17, 2008, 12:46:30 AM
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Originally posted by GaryCXJk
Anyone can deny it, but the fact remains that Wolf is just a clone of Fox. You can say his A-moves are different, but so is Ganondorf's (even in Melee). That didn't stop people from calling Ganondorf a clone.
Even though the moves have different outcomes or different animations, in the end they're still the same.
So, here's the sad fact:
Neutral B
Fox: Blaster
Falco: Blaster
Wolf: Blaster
Even though one stuns and one is slower, they are all blasters. Anyone denying that they're still the same, despite the fact that they all use guns, is a complete tool. I don't care if it shoots lasers, plasma, stun beams, semen, feces, piss, it's still a blaster.
Side B
Fox: Dash (Fox Illusion)
Falco: Dash (Falco Phantasm)
Wolf: Dash (one that goes a bit into the air)
Again, three different moves with still the same outcome. They all dash forward. I don't care if they go straight, in the air, in the ground, inside your anus, leave holograms, illusions, shadows or skid marks, they are still dashes.
Up B
Fox: Upwards thrust (Fire Fox)
Falco: Upwards thrust (Fire Falco)
Wolf: Upwards thrust (which doesn't lag, and apparently has a wind effect)
You've guessed it, they are still upwards thrust. I don't care if the attack has lag or not or that it leaves fire, wind or farts, you can't deny the fact that it's an upwards thrust.
Down B
Fox: Reflector
Falco: Reflector
Wolf: Reflector
And here we have three moves which have the same outcome, only Falco kicks it forward and Wolf's only reflects from the sides apparently. But the sad fact is that they still reflect. It doesn't matter if they reflect in all directions or just one, or if they only reflect projectiles or crap thrown at them, they still reflect.
Final Smash
Fox: Landmaster
Falco: Landmaster
Wolf: Landmaster
Seriously, who needs explanation?
Best post on the subject EVER. I shall now use your post to invade the SSBB boards
Post by: DarkFlood2 on February 17, 2008, 03:18:46 PM
Thus, Wolf is only a semi-clone.
Post by: GaryCXJk on February 17, 2008, 03:45:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DarkFlood2You're forgetting that Ganondorf in Melee had different A-moves and was still called a Captain Falcon clone.
You're forgetting that Wolf's A-moves are completely different, and that his landmaster is stronger, but the duration is shorter.
Thus, Wolf is only a semi-clone.
Hell, even in Brawl his Final Smash is VERY similar to Captain Falcon Punch's. I mean, take out that "I Falcon Punchdrive you on a racing track and Falcon Pown you by Falcon Drivingoveryou over you" animation sequence, and you have basically the same thing as Ganondorf's.
Post by: Red Giant on February 18, 2008, 02:05:21 AM
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Originally posted by DarkFlood2
You're forgetting that Wolf's A-moves are completely different, and that his landmaster is stronger, but the duration is shorter.
Thus, Wolf is only a semi-clone.
You're being sarcastic, right?
Post by: WarxePB on February 18, 2008, 04:25:19 AM
Post by: Red Giant on February 18, 2008, 07:28:30 AM
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Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
I don't recall where I saw it, but I heard a rumor that Mewtwo and Roy will be playable in the US and PAL versions (probably as alternate costumes for Marth and Lucario, respectively). People who have cracked the disk have also found model data for Dixie Kong, Dr. Mario, "Pra Mai" (assumed to be Plusle and Minun), Toon Zelda and Toon Sheik. These models are the same size as the Wario-Man, Sheik and Giga Bowser files, suggesting that the models are at least mostly complete.
Toon Sheik? C'mon now, that's not a thing! No love for tetra?
Post by: WarxePB on February 18, 2008, 07:39:08 AM
Post by: GaryCXJk on February 18, 2008, 01:27:47 PM
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I'll never go in one of those. I'd take the sky any day.
Post by: DarkFlood2 on February 18, 2008, 01:50:46 PM
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Originally posted by GaryCXJk
Sakurai already screwed with continuity by giving Falco a Landmaster.QuoteI'll never go in one of those. I'd take the sky any day.[/B]
Non-canon game is non-canon.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 18, 2008, 04:33:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GaryCXJk
Sakurai already screwed with continuity by giving Falco a Landmaster.QuoteI'll never go in one of those. I'd take the sky any day.[/B]
Although you can use Landmaster in the multiplayer of Star fox assault. Every character could to be honest.
But Wolf in one is the least possible. Firstly! He is a part of Star WOLF not Star Fox. The Landmasters is somewhat a Star fox only-construction probably built by its master: Slippy. Star Wolf never attends to ground battle except for Assault but Wolf is so fast that you are only slowed down by it.
Secondly, Falco should have an Arwing. And then Wolf should be a clone of Falco where he would have a Star Wolf version of the spaceship. That's right: A Wolfen.
That's how it should have been done... It's godamn stupid to make another doppelganger of a character like this... Would be better off with Dr.Mario again; you can barely call Luigi a clone of Mario anymore.
Got two different B-attacks now and most of his move set is changed as well. Nothing works like Mario there...
Non-cannon game are non-cannon... Perhaps but there is no need to be retards.
Post by: GaryCXJk on February 18, 2008, 08:15:34 PM
Also, don't forget Luigi's killer taunt.
Post by: Red Giant on February 19, 2008, 10:09:13 PM
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Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
They made a Twilight Princess-style Sheik - possibly the biggest violation of continuity EVER. If they're already making that big of a plothole, they might as well throw in Toon Sheik too.
Ah yes, but they explained that in an early draft of TP sheik was a character, so I let that one slide! Remember; TP is the latest game to have content is Brawl so it's possible that they had already made (Or planned out) her character before her removal from TP.
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I'll never go in one of those. I'd take the sky any day.
Coincidentally! I totally started replaying Lylat Wars last week (Ahhh such a perfect game) and as soon as he said that line I instantly thought of brawl. ALAS YOU HAVE BEETED ME TO THA (falcon) PUNCH.
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According to Wolf's Final Smash trophy description, he stole the blueprints of the Landmaster Tank and improved upon it.
BAD SAKURAI. NO MESS WITH OTHER FRANCHISES STORIES.
@Prpl mage, right on. That is perfectly perfect. Although the arwing is kinda difficult to do as a final smash as it is in constant motion.
I had thought a sort of calling for backup fs where the rest of the team lay it on your enemies from the backdrop a la starfox levels in melee would've been nice too and would have been applicable to any starfox character. Anything's better than WOLFMASTAH TANK.
Post by: GaryCXJk on February 20, 2008, 01:19:43 AM
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Wolf's Final Smash. Wolf analyzed
Fox's Landmaster and built his own
improved version, which he now
calls out and boards. He's
increased the output of the onboard
generators and upped the vehicle's
firepower. However, this has
substantially decreased the time
the Landmaster can appear on the
screen. It sports the same colors
as Wolf's Wolfen.
Post by: Apex on February 21, 2008, 12:18:59 AM
I get so sick of hearing people bitch about canon. They are the ones making the games, if they don't want it to make sense, then they can damn well have it not make sense, people bitching aren't going to change that, and Shiek having a TP esque appearance, and Wolf stealing blue-prints isn't going to actually keep someone from buying and play Super Smash Bros.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on February 21, 2008, 02:10:45 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 21, 2008, 05:42:52 PM
Post by: GaryCXJk on February 21, 2008, 05:59:45 PM
Post by: Apex on February 21, 2008, 08:31:10 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GaryCXJk
Super Smash Bros. is nerdgasm for Nintendoids. If there's something not right about the history of any character, it is considered lame. I mean, Sakurai put all these cool references to many games (Link's intro being a nod to the warp flute, one of Toon Link's costumes reflecting that of Link's older designs), but can't seem to stick to character canonicity. It's basically blasphemy of the highest order.
I've been playing videogames since I was two, and I don't find it the least bit offensive, or blasphemous.
Post by: GaryCXJk on February 21, 2008, 09:27:46 PM
Post by: Red Giant on February 21, 2008, 09:48:02 PM
We all know wolf's landmaster is a last second colour switch, does he really think he's fooling anyone?
Post by: GaryCXJk on February 22, 2008, 02:09:18 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 22, 2008, 03:13:38 AM
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Originally posted by Red Giant
It's not so much that he's violating canon, it's that he's violating canon to save his own arse.
We all know wolf's landmaster is a last second colour switch, does he really think he's fooling anyone?
This.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on February 22, 2008, 04:08:22 AM
Quote
Originally posted by GaryCXJk
Yes, you've been playing video games. But does that make you a Nintendoid? No. A real Nintendoid knows at least half his ****, even more than half. He should, because he should know a lot about Nintendo, about the games, about the history of the characters. Nintendoids know that Link is always left-handed, that Mario never came from Brooklyn but was just born in the Mushroom Kingdom, that Star Fox Adventures originally was a Rare original just called Dinosaur Planet before Nintendo decided to make it a Star Fox game, that Mario was never actually called Jumpman but was given this nickname because he didn't have a name in Donkey Kong, that Samus is an woman orphaned by Ridley, that Sakurai is both the creator of the Kirby franchise and Super Smash Bros. franchise, that Fire Emblem almost always follow the rule of two games per story which subsequently means no character can appear in more than two games asides from the few exceptions in which a Fire Emblem story had three games.
I know all that and more, and I still don't give a ****. You know why, because I still have enough of my dignity to realize they're bloody games.
Post by: SaiKar on February 22, 2008, 05:57:21 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
I know all that and more, and I still don't give a ****. You know why, because I still have enough of my dignity to realize they're bloody games.
Pretty much sums it up.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 22, 2008, 06:51:30 AM
The game could've been a greater blessing to all if just a tiny detail like that could have been changed.
But I believe that all the other contents pretty much makes up for it... Except the game's lack of mario pills now of course.
Post by: SaiKar on February 22, 2008, 08:43:38 AM
Post by: Apex on February 22, 2008, 12:47:27 PM
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Originally posted by SaiKar
Yeah, but the people that said they were being lazy need to be stabbed in the face. At a certain point you have to declare something done. They already delayed it at least twice and packed far more stuff into the game than anyone was remotely expecting. I mean, designing your own stages? That's pipe dream stuff. I couldn't give less of a damn what Wolf's final smash looks like or how it lines up with Star Fox canon continuity. I'm just happy the concept of final smahes is in the game at all.
THANK YOU.
Although if I have only one vice with this game, it's that there is no Tom Nook.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 22, 2008, 02:05:03 PM
It is not lazy to the game as a whole. DO NOT MISINTERPRET THAT. It's lazy on certain character's movesets. not only do we get 6 'semi'-clones, but we also get to see 5 of those 6 final smashes that look certainly VERY alike. They prove they could make something good with a weird character such as ROB, who was probably one of the noteable first decisions they had to bring back something very retro, yet they were not integrate enough into the other characters, which they very much could, because they were more focused on other modes such as the stage builder, spectator mode, and online homerun contest, masterpieces.
on TOP of that we get a character with an original moveset cut, when crap like clone falco comes back.
To me, yes its a sort of lazyness; leaving to do something important for something else that's less important.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 22, 2008, 03:05:15 PM
But yeah, cloning a clone is my only problem so far... We won't get the game 'till may-june-july so I'll see what I can complain about then.
Post by: Red Giant on February 22, 2008, 04:02:07 PM
He's playing with a massive scale of different kinds of fans and their expectations, of course he can't please everyone. But we still have our opinions.
On a lighter note, there is plenty to like. I will be all over the stage builder (limited or not) anonymous online battling, action replays and co-op story. The arrival of Pokemon Trainer, Olimar and Wolf all had me jumping for joy, too.
Post by: Apex on February 22, 2008, 07:30:20 PM
Post by: ellie-is on February 22, 2008, 08:14:56 PM
Post by: WarxePB on February 22, 2008, 08:58:12 PM
All in all, I'm pleased with Brawl. The roster could be better, but it could be worse (see: Melee). The extra modes should keep us occupied for a while. And while all of the superfluous additions like Masterpieces aren't necessary, they add to an already awesome game.
It's just a shame that there's no DLC characters.
Post by: GaryCXJk on February 22, 2008, 10:37:04 PM
The only reason I want this game.
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on February 22, 2008, 10:53:37 PM
Post by: Apex on February 23, 2008, 12:06:11 AM
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Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Tom Nook fans should die. Animal Crossing is the antithesis of Smash Bros, and has nothing that would lend itself to a fighting character.
(See: Captain Falcon)
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 23, 2008, 02:10:53 PM
Post by: DarkFlood2 on February 23, 2008, 11:03:44 PM
To all you ROB haters: I guess you'd also like G&W gone, Ice Climbers gone, and would generally like to forget the past. Who cares if ROB wasn't that great of an idea back then? It brings us back to our youth and I, for one, love the idea.
Post by: coasterkrazy on February 24, 2008, 12:20:03 AM
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Originally posted by DarkFlood2
Look at Melee and all the people who "wtf'd" at G&W, then grew to love him.
And who might they be?
Post by: DarkFlood2 on February 24, 2008, 12:52:19 AM
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on February 25, 2008, 11:14:35 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 26, 2008, 02:37:43 AM
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 26, 2008, 07:21:24 AM
G&W got a whole friggin' bunch of fast attacks and his Forwards-smash is rather overpowered, that and the parachute attack is enough to kill you off.
But never mind that, All characters are actually good, especially if you're my friend and been whoring this game for 3-4 years. He knows it in every detail possible.
Post by: Apex on February 26, 2008, 12:44:48 PM
Post by: Fortet on February 27, 2008, 04:49:08 AM
My Brawl budget is completed!!!
Even tax cash :)
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 27, 2008, 07:42:22 PM
yeah, i think this Landmaster thing ahs taken a toll on people.
ALSO, have you people read the IGN interview with Sakurai and/or learn of he's speech in GDC? Some nifty stuff. Like NO MORE CHARACTERS and CHARACTERS WERE DECIDED AS EARLY AS 2006
Post by: Red Giant on February 28, 2008, 10:27:08 PM
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Originally posted by ApexQuoteOriginally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Tom Nook fans should die. Animal Crossing is the antithesis of Smash Bros, and has nothing that would lend itself to a fighting character.
(See: Captain Falcon)[/B]
Not entirely comparable. Captain Falcon is, after all, a bounty hunter (and totally ripped), and has in fact been known to get his hands dirty outside of his F-Zero machine. (http://f-mode.planets.gamespy.com/media/scans/f-zero2.jpg)
Tom Nook is, as Warxe put it, the antithesis of a smash bros fighter. It's not simply that he doesn't beat b*tches up in his regular games. It's that he would never beat b*tches up.
EDIT: Page 2 panel 3 of the comic. Now there's a sound effect that should have made it into smash bros.
Post by: Apex on February 28, 2008, 10:59:58 PM
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Originally posted by Red GiantQuoteOriginally posted by ApexQuoteOriginally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Tom Nook fans should die. Animal Crossing is the antithesis of Smash Bros, and has nothing that would lend itself to a fighting character.
(See: Captain Falcon)[/B]
Not entirely comparable. Captain Falcon is, after all, a bounty hunter (and totally ripped), and has in fact been known to get his hands dirty outside of his F-Zero machine. (http://f-mode.planets.gamespy.com/media/scans/f-zero2.jpg)
Tom Nook is, as Warxe put it, the antithesis of a smash bros fighter. It's not simply that he doesn't beat b*tches up in his regular games. It's that he would never beat b*tches up.[/B]
No matter what you claim, you will never change my mind on the issue.
Post by: ThexXtremeXx on February 28, 2008, 11:05:32 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on March 01, 2008, 02:02:44 PM
anyway vis of the english version youtube.com/user/Sitschei
Post by: Fortet on March 09, 2008, 04:21:27 PM
But one of my friends won, so I'm happy
Anyways, I'm about to go pick up my copy in a few minutes, so . . .
Laterz
Post by: DarkFlood2 on March 09, 2008, 06:30:06 PM
Post by: Fortet on March 09, 2008, 07:22:00 PM
Post by: Archem on March 09, 2008, 07:28:36 PM
Took me five minutes to get it, even at the back of the line! My GameStop works profuckingfessionally!
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on March 09, 2008, 08:04:30 PM
Post by: Cosmos on March 09, 2008, 09:11:39 PM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
midnight
Yes...?
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on March 09, 2008, 11:36:45 PM
Post by: ellie-is on March 09, 2008, 11:39:42 PM
Post by: DarkFlood2 on March 09, 2008, 11:41:26 PM
First Impressions:
Pikachu is lighter and a bit stronger
Metaknight sucks, seriously.
R.O.B. is fun as hell.
Samus is a bit beefier.
DK and Peach are actually good without resorting to cheap strategies now.
Post by: ellie-is on March 09, 2008, 11:54:47 PM
Is sonic good? And about pokémon trainer? (I wich I had a wii, lol)
Post by: DarkFlood2 on March 10, 2008, 12:54:24 AM
Squirtle is fast and decently strong,
Ivysaur is weak despite being slow (Don't bother with it)
Charisard is moderately fast and has strong attacks
Pikachu is kinda suck, though.. You're pretty much gonna spam his Neutral + A so that enemies can't really even touch you.
Also, Pit's Down + B is mega powerful. It can block even FS attacks with ease.
EDIT: Snake = STRATEGYAN GAEMS
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on March 10, 2008, 01:30:59 AM
Post by: Cosmos on March 10, 2008, 01:54:36 AM
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Originally posted by lucas_irineu
I think she knew that, lol
*nods*
Post by: Meiscool-2 on March 10, 2008, 03:18:09 AM
Impression on the new characters that I've played:
Zero Suit - Haven't used enough to see, but she's basically as durable and fast as Zelda with less damaging attacks and longer reach.
Ike - Pretty good. He's got his swift attacks and his powerhouse attacks. For as slow as he is he's not very durable, but he is by far the most powerful character IMO. His up smash hits in front of him, behind him, and above... it's my favorite move.
Lucario - Amazing. The fact that he gets stronger as he is damaged makes him perfect for me. Good reach with B attacks and great speed.
Lucas - While, he's not a great character, his smashes are extremely powerful and his B skills are well rounded. He's different enough from Ness to be used in a different way, especially with his way-more-useful Up-B.
Pokemon Trainer - Eh.... Squirtle is pretty much the only good one. Ivysaur is a great grab-spammer, but it's reach and B-skills are really lacking. Charizard isn't nearly as hardy as he should be, though he does get several jumps and a Up-B that actually goes UP (unlike bowser's). Squirtle has great smashes and some useful B-skils.... I just wish his normal B did some damage.
Those are pretty much all I've played of the new characters.
Post by: coasterkrazy on March 10, 2008, 03:35:55 AM
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Originally posted by DarkFlood2
Metaknight sucks, seriously.
ARE YOU ****ing KIDDING ME?
He and Pit are my favorite newcomers thus far... I'm about 40-ish percent through SSE, and I love it. Don't have as much of an analysis as everyone else here...
Post by: Archem on March 10, 2008, 03:50:56 AM
Lucas is the coolest thing this game has going for it as far as I've gotten. Ike's pretty neat, too, if a little slow. Control-wise, Melee was better because everything seemed to feel right, but everything else is superior here. Marth isn't a tourney fag anymore, but he's still quite useful. Shiek seems... Worthless now. Huge failure, and quite a shame.
Oh, and Melee's almost non-existent load times have spoiled me. This game will take a few seconds to load. And it likes to load pretty often.
Post by: Weerd Thing on March 10, 2008, 05:08:33 AM
Granted, the controls are slightly different, but some characters feel the changes more than others. I had a hard time controlling DK, Fox and Meta-Knight (although the last one is because of my lack of skill with him), but others, like Bowser, Link and Samus, seem to be either unaffected or even better (in the case of Bowser; I found him much easier to control).
But these changes, I think, don't take much away from the game. It really feels like some change has been made, that SSBB isn't a half-assed copy of SSBM with concerns to the characters, and it takes a little more skill to master them. In essence, Brawl really is a new game. It all depends on what you're used to, I guess.
I didn't find much trouble with the items, however, that's obviously a personal issue more than anything. Item catching is definitely easier (I love Diddy's running attack: it catches items on the way).
The jumps seem a little more forced, but this change is on everyone, not just a couple of characters, which evens things out. Besides, it HAS been a while since I played Melee... maybe I just don't remember how it used to be. :P In regards to movement, all I can say is, Get used to it :P
In the end, I still haven't had a taste of all this game has to offer. But I give it a solid thumbs up for now. Great game that definitely dishes out fun and [STRIKE]violence[/STRIKE] originality in spades.
Now, my character reviews:
Bowser is mean in this one. Flying Slam=friend. Bowser Bomb=friend. Giga Bowser=friend (a damn ugly one though). I love this guy.
Samus seems to have been a little weighed down in this one, but her attacks are a little faster. Zero Suit is fast and moderately strong, but easy to throw away :(
Ike, simply put, is destructive in the hands of a skilled player. Slow, yet powerful. Remember, that IS a two-handed sword he's wielding with one hand.
Wario is great. Sort of like Mario, a little stronger, way unorthodox.
The Trainer is good. Using all three Pokémon efficiently takes some skill to master though.
Pit is an easy to use character (or so I found). Strong yet fast. And the Mirror Shield is great :P
Meta-Knight is pretty hard to use, but in the hands of a skilled player, is lethal. That Final Smash hurts. A lot.
Diddy Kong is great. With a peanut gun, a jetpack and a dash attack that catches items along the way, what more could you want? Seriously though, he's not the hardiest of individuals :|
And Sonic... let's just say I don't like him a lot right now. He works best on open stages, but his up special is very effective :) I haven't experimented with him much.
My future faves: Ganondorf and ROB. Oh yeah...
WŁŁrd
Post by: Archem on March 10, 2008, 06:12:48 AM
Post by: SaiKar on March 10, 2008, 07:03:11 AM
Assist tropies are pretty much Pokemon balls. Actually, scratch that, Pokemon seem more useful on the whole.
Smash balls are really annoying to try to get since it seems the entire match stops whenever one appears as all the players swing wildly at the stupid randomly-moving thing. Not to mention the fact that the smash ball attacks are WILDLY disproporisionate in strength. A lot of characters have smash ball moves that are avoidable by just walking away, but then you have some like Pit's and Lucas's that pretty much seem to kill every other player on the screen every time. Yeah.
Subspace emissary seemed like too much jerking around. I only got through a few fights, but a couple of them were just "jump up five platforms. Nope, no enemies. There's the exit! Congrats!" It feels sort of like a slower version of the adventure mode from melee.
I was at a party Saturday night that was playing Rock Band until midnight when someone went to pick up a preorder copy of Smash. We played that for about an hour and then went back to Rock Band. Brawl just feels too much like melee with a couple of characters nobody knows how to use. I don't think it deserves the massive "best game ever" hype its been giving. It's cool, but the old stuff is still old and most of the new stuff just doesn't add that much.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on March 10, 2008, 01:43:35 PM
But anyway, i played almost all day yesterday and I got the hang of it. Online Matches are awesome (although right now "with anyone" is currently under maintaince due to extreme numbers of connections, but "wuith friends" is A-O-K).
My impression is that, it looks too much like melee but feels a lot more different than melee.
Now I demand it: FRIENDLIES
Post by: DarkFlood2 on March 10, 2008, 01:54:43 PM
Also, SSE wasn't meant to be the end-all adventure mode. I'd consider it more like an introduction to the characters... The cutscenes are fuckwin, though.
Post by: Archem on March 10, 2008, 05:12:43 PM
Post by: DarkFlood2 on March 10, 2008, 05:34:20 PM
Really, playing through SSE helped me so much with getting used to it.
Also, anyone playing lower than hard mode is a pussy.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 10, 2008, 05:51:20 PM
But the things I've noticed is:
You can tell that HAL did this game; SSE looks just like a kirby game.
Some characters was changed for the better while some got more original attacks/movesets(Falco and Luigi).
Ike seems really godamn strong.
Jigglypuff needs a hug.
And it's more than an expansion pack. The two latest Halo has merely been like expansion packs compared to SS64->Melee->Brawl.
Post by: DarkFlood2 on March 10, 2008, 08:25:43 PM
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Originally posted by Prpl_Mage
You can tell that PAL did this game; SSE looks just like a kirby game.
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Originally posted by Prpl_Mage
tell that PAL did this
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Originally posted by Prpl_Mage
PAL
I rage'd.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 10, 2008, 09:23:47 PM
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Originally posted by DarkFlood2QuoteOriginally posted by Prpl_Mage
You can tell that HAL did this game; SSE looks just like a kirby game.QuoteOriginally posted by Prpl_Mage
tell that HAL did thisQuoteOriginally posted by Prpl_Mage
HAL
I rage'd.[/B]
Right; an H.
Post by: DarkFlood2 on March 11, 2008, 12:34:47 PM
He is fast.
****ing crazy fast.
Like, go all the way across Melee Final Destination in 1.5 seconds fast. I don't think most heavies outside of Bowser would be able to keep up with him, but his attacks are weak overall.
Post by: ellie-is on March 11, 2008, 06:43:25 PM
Post by: WarxePB on March 11, 2008, 06:58:26 PM
Also, Snake. The greatest character ever. He has like a billion projectiles, powerful attacks and an awesome UpB - what more could you want?
Post by: Revolution911 on March 11, 2008, 08:48:56 PM
Tedious bullshit laced with an easy way of getting new characters. because id rather not sit here and suicide 450 times.
....Im gunna have to anyway though, ****.
I just wanted the pride of knowing I beat it.
Snake sucks.
I MAIN OLIMAR, MOTHERFUUKKKAAAZZZ
Post by: emiiru on March 25, 2008, 02:49:46 AM
Do I set my WII on fire? Wasn't this supposed to be like 'the game to have'? Seriously I played it in Gamestop, thinking it'd be as fun the N64 version (last one I played), it just wasn't fun at all to me. I got a WII last year, and besides the DBZ games, nothing really jumped out to me.
Post by: Archem on March 25, 2008, 02:54:36 AM
You know, until I get my 360 back and download the now free Heroic map pack.
Post by: ellie-is on July 15, 2012, 04:09:18 AM
Forgive me for kicking, but I had to.
Post by: ellie-is on July 15, 2012, 04:11:22 AM
I do not want Sonic to be in the game. Anyone but Sonic.
Please.
[...]
Marth! Possibly removed!
Roy! Even more possibly removed!
Mr Game and Watch! Possibly removed!
Ice Climbers! Possibly removed!
You fool. If you think Sega and Nintendo are still at each others throats, you are beyond saving. Proof enough lies in a title called "Mario and Sonic in the Olympic Games" coming to the Wii and DS.
This is like an awesome time machine to times we can't even comprehend.
also there's me being a huge noob.
Post by: Archem on July 15, 2012, 06:00:27 AM
I'm glad that I haven't changed much since then, but I do miss all the active members...
Post by: Meiscool on July 15, 2012, 07:06:23 AM
nuff said.
Post by: Razor on July 15, 2012, 01:03:08 PM
also there's me being a huge noob.It's like nothing has changed.
Why didn't I want Sonic in the game? I have no idea.
Post by: Archem on July 15, 2012, 04:43:00 PM
Post by: Cerebus on July 15, 2012, 05:01:37 PM
So I'm going to do it now, even if I'm a bit... extremely late.
My first time really playing the game (as in not just 2-3 matches with friends) was about three months ago at Natako's place. Yes, it took me a long while, I know.
I've completed the Subspace Emissary, unlocked every characters and most level, plus maybe a few things I can't think of. And here's my opinion.
I am disappointed by many changes they made. Tripping while sprinting is stupid. Subspace Emissary isn't that fun and is way too long. I don't like how they changed the mid-air dodge, I often used it as a third jump with Ness and Yoshi (and some times others) and now I can't anymore. Luigi's Up+B sucks, now. Hate Mario's water pump thing from Mario Sunshine. Final Smash are stupid and annoying, some are completely useless while others are way too good. Snake sucks, I don't like him. Sonic sucks, I don't like him. I miss Bowser's old Side+B, though I like to suicide with it. I miss Pichu and Mewtwo. I don't like how they changed Game and Watch's parachute attack, the new Neutral+A mid-air sucks compared to the old one, and I don't like how his Down+A mid-air attack (the Key) makes you fall down. And many more I can't think of.
However, I like Meta Knight, King Dedede, R.O.B., Wario, Toon Link and Pit. Custom level is fun, too.
So, all in all... meh. Not a bad game, but more things that disappointed me than things that I thought were cool.
I don't have a Wii, but if I ever get one, I may still get this game, though. It's still fun, just not as much as I would have thought back then.
Post by: SaiKar on July 16, 2012, 09:39:47 PM
In the end, I think I enjoyed the hype from the website more than the actual game itself. Melee is still more fun. At least there Peach is a beamsword swingin' goddess of death.
Post by: Meiscool on July 16, 2012, 10:44:57 PM
melee was more enjoyable.
Post by: Felix-0 on July 16, 2012, 10:50:31 PM
Look it up.
Post by: Meiscool on July 16, 2012, 10:51:40 PM
I think that is what ruined the game for me.
Post by: Archem on July 16, 2012, 11:03:59 PM
Post by: ellie-is on July 16, 2012, 11:14:46 PM
I'm against modding the gameplay. I change skins all the time, but if you try to balance the game yourself (or even if a team of fans does it) it is never the same... I'd much rather learn how to play on Vanilla, and learn how to beat Metaknight using Ness (or any other top tier vs low tier combination) than to get used to a version of the game where "better" characters are watered down and "worse" character are powered up, so that when I have to play a tournament match, or at the house of someone who owns Vanilla, be completely owned because I don't understand how the original game works.
Post by: Meiscool on July 16, 2012, 11:58:39 PM
Post by: ellie-is on July 17, 2012, 12:27:20 AM
That said, all my Metaknight foes were also quite the spammy bitches who did not know how to fight anyone half good. CPUs were harder than them. :P
But if you go to big tournaments, or sometimes online, you'll run into good MKs.
Or, well, not anymore! He's banned from tournaments now.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on July 18, 2012, 04:21:39 PM
Post by: ellie-is on July 18, 2012, 05:05:41 PM
And yeah, I'd enjoy Sonic being in it again, I like him.
Post by: fruckert on July 18, 2012, 09:02:37 PM
Post by: Archem on July 18, 2012, 11:23:22 PM
Post by: fruckert on July 18, 2012, 11:32:56 PM
I mean, that's obviously ignoring Sonic (Metal Gear was first on the NES), but still.
Seeing Mega Man classic in there would be great.
Also, where'd your 2 go?
Post by: Archem on July 18, 2012, 11:35:37 PM
Sorry, I'm a dork and care about that.
Post by: fruckert on July 18, 2012, 11:51:56 PM
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on July 19, 2012, 01:01:54 AM
Sorry, I'm a dork and care about that.
You're not alone.
Post by: Cerebus on July 19, 2012, 01:15:56 AM
You're not alone.
For I am here with you.
Also, I don't like Sonic.
Post by: Felix-0 on July 19, 2012, 02:13:35 AM
Simple enough. :3
Post by: Archem on July 19, 2012, 02:36:34 AM
Post by: Cerebus on July 19, 2012, 03:10:35 AM
Post by: ellie-is on July 19, 2012, 03:18:04 AM
But I know that instead they will add some B&W ****er I hate =c
god I can see it already
the ice cream will be in the new smash
Post by: Felix-0 on July 19, 2012, 05:02:21 AM
I want Parasect/Sandslash/Electabuzz. :bvanilluxe.....
But I know that instead they will add some B&W ****er I hate =c
god I can see it already
the ice cream will be in the new smash
Post by: SaiKar on July 19, 2012, 06:38:58 PM
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on July 19, 2012, 07:02:53 PM
As for additions, I don't really have anyone in mind. Maybe another Mother representative like Kumatora or Jeff. If third parties are involved, someone from Dragon Quest. I'd much rather see what was broken in Brawl (items, collision detection, gimmicky/biased stages, Meta Knight) fixed before seeing anything new that could possibly make it worse.
Post by: ellie-is on July 19, 2012, 07:19:31 PM
Also, if they go with Mother, I'd REALLY like to see Duster.
Why?
Because then his moveset would be nothing like Lucas and Ness's. Because, really, if they add Kumatora, it's going to be those two all over again (even though Lucas and Ness are actually incredibly different and not clones at all (unlike Falco/Fox/Wolf). Their moves just *look* the same, but play entirely different, as opposed to the Space animals, which look different but are all the same).
Also, I think Duster is awesome.
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on July 19, 2012, 07:35:00 PM
Items can just be turned off.
I wouldn't have to if they weren't so easy to rape with. I'd like to see them toned down a bit. Star Rod shouldn't mean easy kill.
Besides, With Anyone mode. Your argument is invalid.
Also, I think Duster is awesome.
I would like to see how he's able to fight with his legs, being a cripple and all.
Post by: ellie-is on July 19, 2012, 08:56:13 PM
Post by: Archem on July 19, 2012, 11:04:41 PM
Post by: ellie-is on July 19, 2012, 11:48:19 PM
Post by: Felix-0 on July 20, 2012, 01:22:53 PM
These characters need to go.
Falco and Wolf just need to go.
Add someone else from the series, maybe Krystal, who would fight nowhere near how Fox does.
Toon link, completely unneeded.
Wario, you already had enough "Mushroom Kingdom" Characters. He felt chunky and very strange to use.
Get rid of Mr Game and Watch, he's cute. But seriously. Just no.
Same with Ice Climbers. They're hardly known, no one really likes them. GTFO.
Yoshi is fine, at the same time it's strange seeing him in there.
Don't re-add solid snake, or you can. Honestly, he doesn't fit, and his moveset is wonky.
Pokemon Trainer wasn't needed. Already have Pikachu, Lucario, and Jigglypuff. Don't include him, please.
R.O.B.. his only purpose was for storyline purposes. Honestly, he was a system. Not really character worthy.
Sonic. Get rid of him, or add Knuckles. Your choice nintendo.
These characters are just, gah. The ones I want gone just don't seem right for a new age game.
Remake or edit these characters.
Give Luigi a vacuum cleaner skill.
Give Mario a "better/actually useful" fludd skill, or just remove fludd.
Metaknight. Remake. Please. For our sake and yours.
Remake Ganondorf (as suggested) Give him projectile beans, and a sword. Two features he's almost always had.
Add These:
Travis Touchdown. Just, a completely enjoyable personality and his moveset would be pretty stylish.
Add Issac, he's been in three Nintendo Titles, and he would be awesome.
Megaman. Seriously, Nintendo gave Megaman his arms, legs, and spinal cord. Seems like Capcom gave up on adding him in UMvC3. Pick him up and give him love Nintendo.
If sonic is kept, Knuckles would make a great addition.
Krystal, her play style would be very close combat etiquette with beamsaber moves and high athletic ability.
Little Mac. Punch Out for the Wii actually sold very well. It's a very deep rooted Nintendo character, and his boxer style combat seems like someone who would give Marth a run for his money.
So, let me rephrase.
Remove:
MR G&W, Pkmn Trainer, Falco and Wolf, Ice Climbers, R.O.B, Toon Link. Maybe get rid of Yoshi, Snake, or Sonic.
Remake:
Mario, Luigi, Ganondorf, Meta-knight.
Add.
Issac, Travis, Megaman. Knuckles, Krystal, Little Mac
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on July 20, 2012, 01:47:03 PM
Remake Ganondorf (as suggested) Give him projectile beans, and a sword. Two features he's almost always had.
I read somewhere about the idea of adding Black Shadow, and giving him Ganon's current moveset while Ganon gets a whole new one. I love this idea.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 20, 2012, 02:10:48 PM
I read somewhere about the idea of adding Black Shadow, and giving him Ganon's current moveset while Ganon gets a whole new one. I love this idea.
The idea would be great since black shadow is from Fzero, but it's probably just a fan-solution and not something nintendo thought up. I'd like to see a ganondorf that's more twilight princess or windwaker in his moveset than ocarina of time though. And I'd prefer if he wasn't a huge pig.
The word on the web is that namco bandai (most likely the tales off- crew) will be working on the new smash bros. We'll see how much they change and how much different it'll be or if they simply give up. I don't think the melee fanatics would like the new game no matter what they cook up simply because it's not melee.
Characters that most likely won't go:
Those who were in at least 2 titles. Such as game and watch or zelda. Also, olimar will probably be in it since he's getting a new game.
Characters that most likely will go:
toon link, rob, wolf, pokemon trainer, snake, sonic. Any of those pretty worthless characters that aren't popular and added in brawl. Also snake and sonic will probably make room for new guest characters.
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on July 20, 2012, 02:23:56 PM
The idea would be great since black shadow is from Fzero, but it's probably just a fan-solution and not something nintendo thought up.
It is a fan idea. Did I insinuate that it wasn't?
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 20, 2012, 03:24:03 PM
Did I insinuate that it wasn't?
Well no. It's just that it's the kind of things that only fans would come up with and nintendo will **** some bricks when they find that post and gets an enlightenment of how they could fix the mess they put themselves in by making ganondorf a cptn fallcon clone.
Post by: ellie-is on July 20, 2012, 08:36:33 PM
Characters that most likely will go:
toon link, rob, wolf, pokemon trainer, snake, sonic. Any of those pretty worthless characters that aren't popular and added in brawl. Also snake and sonic will probably make room for new guest characters.
Man, I hope you're wrong. Toon Link, Pokemon Trainer and Sonic are great. Snake is a nice addition, too.
But really. They REALLY shouldn't take Pokémon trainer away. They do that, and they won't see a single penny of my money. :c
Post by: Cerebus on July 20, 2012, 08:49:43 PM
However, I like Wario and R.O.B. And Game & Watch. And Ice Climbers.
Also, I got so used to the white that now, blue seems kinda weird. I'll get used to it again, though.
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on July 20, 2012, 08:54:22 PM
Also, I got so used to the white that now, blue seems kinda weird. I'll get used to it again, though.
Yeah. Just so it's out there - I had to make it completely blind, so there are a few bugs and color goofs. I can't fix them until Monday, though.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 20, 2012, 11:14:33 PM
Post by: fruckert on July 20, 2012, 11:19:53 PM
Post by: Meiscool on July 21, 2012, 09:56:25 AM
And what's with all the hate? Take out Ice Climbers, seriously? Fox??? Game & Watch? They are classics. They aren't some random fan service like pichu was, nor do they take up a spot that could be used by another character in a specific series (like the Roy for Ike trade).
I was beast with Roy.
Also, they need to add Slippy.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 21, 2012, 10:27:16 AM
ROB gotta go though. He's fine as a cameo in backgrounds and such but don't really have any history beside stack up and gyromite (http://cinemassacre.com/2011/03/03/avgn-rob-the-robot/).
Post by: Felix-0 on July 21, 2012, 11:45:43 AM
They need to keep at least some form of young link. If toon link fits the space, so be it. Why would they remove him anyways, he is just basically a cloned-move set. It would be stupid for them to remove him seeing as he is so easy to make. I can't think of any other Zelda characters that would fit his spot better (except maybe 8bit Link).
And what's with all the hate? Take out Ice Climbers, seriously? Fox??? Game & Watch? They are classics. They aren't some random fan service like pichu was, nor do they take up a spot that could be used by another character in a specific series (like the Roy for Ike trade).
I was beast with Roy.
Also, they need to add Slippy.
Who says that they even NEED that slot to be filled with another character. Zelda/Sheik, Ganon, and Link. That's enough LoZ characters as stated. No need for more, it's a waste of a slot as he's just a clone. We don't like clones. Clones are boring.
Fox can stay, wolf and falco (or wolf) go. Go far away. Pointless tasteless clones.
No one, literally no one knew about Ice Climbers. More people know ROB and Mr G&W than Ice climbers...
They can be taken out, Rob, Mr G&w, and Ice climbers, Falco, Wolf, Snake, Toon Link. Wario.
Just, enough.
Nintendo has plenty of series.
I seriously think Travis, Issac, Knuckles, Megaman, Lil Mac would make nice characters. :3
Hell, replace toon link with Minda/Wolf link. That would be a very fun playstyle right there. I can imagine the grabs and skills such a character would have, and I love it.
Link needs a refreshing moveset. His Bow could use a faster charge time, his clawshot can be better (or replaced with the whip) , Skyward sword didn't have a boomerang, I hope new Link doesn't either.
Replace the boomerang with the whip, or beetle.
Issac would have awesome Psyenergy moves, weird earth pillars, and basic psy, like push and such.
Post by: Archem on July 21, 2012, 04:28:21 PM
Because I liked Roy, dammit.
Post by: Cerebus on July 21, 2012, 04:41:38 PM
I like Ice Climbers and Game and Watch and I don't see why they should be removed. And I did know about the Climbers. Didn't like the game that much, but I did know.
And you said somewhere that Wario should be removed because there is enough people from Mushroom Kingdom. But keep in mind that Wario also have is own series. I also like Wario.
Isaac would make a great addition, though. Maybe another one from the series, too, with slightly different move set, like Jenna or something. This game is lacking on the lady side. Little Mac, I'm not sure... I feel like his move set would be lacking. I mean... his only attacks are punches. Even Animal Crossing characters have more potential for a better move set.
Might as well put Plum from Mario Golf, too.
And yes, screw Snake, he can be removed.
Also, you said that Nintendo has enough other series or something... well, not all that many comes to mind. Or at least, not many with characters that have a potentially good move set.
I wish they'd throw Lucario away and bring back Mewtwo.
IBecause I liked Roy, dammit.
So did I. I never really liked Marth and I'm not a fan of Ike.
Kill Marth and bring back Roy!
Post by: ellie-is on July 21, 2012, 05:28:07 PM
No one, literally no one knew about Ice Climbers. More people know ROB and Mr G&W than Ice climbers...
The **** you saying? I had no idea what a ROB or Game and Watch was until Brawl came out (yeah, I totally ignored Melee), but a good part of my childhood was spent climbing those icy mountains.
Ice Climbers make me feel all giggly inside.
And, Link without boomerang? Hell no. It's a classic. Skyward sword might have ignored it, but it's part of who he is.
If they do take out Toon Link, I won't mind as long as they make Link faster. I loved link in SSB64, and then in Brawl he got slower and heavier, which was alright, since Toon Link was now the guy who did the stuff I liked.
But considering how Young Link was in Melee despite being a variation that was in the same game as regular Link, they have no reason to take Toon Link out (since he has his own game, and one could even say that he is also the link of GBA games, as far as looks go).
They probably won't take out many characters. They might replace one or two, but I just expect the rooster to grow. I hope it doesn't grow *too* much, things can get confusing with too many fighters.
And, by the way, judging by what they did with Luigi and such, I feel that Clones will become less clone-y in the new game. They know we hate clones, they'll try to tone it down.
btw. Jack from Harvest Moon. They get him in that game and I will love them FOREVER. That guy has such a wonderful potential for a Brawl game.
Post by: Meiscool on July 21, 2012, 08:09:31 PM
Aside from that, anyone who owned a nintendo would know who ice climbers are. I dunno how old felix is, but I'm 21 and I remember seeing the game on ye-old boxy box.
Cloned characters are fine IMO. These aren't clones like dynasty warriors or other games, these are clones with heavy modifications. Fox and Falco have very different A attacks, Falco is much heavier and moves faster, his B isn't spam-able, his down B isn't stationary, his up B has a different charge time, his grabs have differences, and his smashes are different too. No reason to get rid of him.
No one bitches about Ganon being a clone of Falcon. Or Lucas and Ness. They are very different too though. Different A moves with changes to the speed, weight, etc and some B move modifications.
Toon link has the most drastic weight and speed changes of all the clones. TBH, I play falcon and ganon pretty much the same. I play Fox and Falco pretty much the same. Lucas and Ness too. Toon Link and Link are so damn different though that they really can't be played the same.
Clones are fair game as far as I am concerned.
ROB should die. So should snake and sonic. Wario too, only because he mattered so little.
Oh, and Eliwood is a fag. I'm glad they choose Marth (who is in multiple FE titles) over Eliwood (arguably the worst Lord in the series.)
I would say that Deedee and Metaknight should go too, but since Kirby is such a strong series, they should probably stay.
Post by: Cerebus on July 21, 2012, 08:22:50 PM
I'm not really good with them, but I love them. In a very gay way.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 21, 2012, 08:26:52 PM
I don't mind the clones, it's just that like Ganon who is nothing close to what cptn falcon is as a character got the same moveset as him. That's my main and only problem with the dorf as a character. Characters from the same series who obviously are alike(such as ness and lucas being almost the same in their games) sharing similar movesets don't really bother me.
It's just that last time namco did a sequel (Soul calibur V) they dropped a lot of characters people liked. If they actually make this game it wouldn't surprise me if they try to do something new and fresh and clean out some as well.
Post by: Meiscool on July 21, 2012, 08:45:54 PM
So yeah, I think dropping characters in fighting games is bad. The only time I would think it is ok to drop a character is if they had only been in the series for one game.
Post by: ellie-is on July 21, 2012, 09:36:20 PM
A moves - completely different. Ness is more of a heavy hitter, with a quick, powerful spike, while Lucas has more attacks with multiple hits, and his spike takes ages to load (back air). This alone makes them play very differently.
Neutral B - Different moves. PK Freeze freezes the opponent (duh), PK Flash is a kill move. They just move in similar trajectories.
Side B - Same graphics, different moves. Ness's PK Fire creates the wall of flame that keeps people locked in and is good for grabbing. Lucas's PK Fire will send enemies flying away. When used in the air, Ness's goes in a downards trajectory, while Lucas goes on a straight line. Lucas's will also launch him backwards, and if timed right, allows him to PK Jump, which's quite awesome (he jumps around three times the height of his normal jump)
Down B - PK Magnet. Ness just stays in place, slows his fall a bit, and absorbs damage. Lucas absorbs damage too, but if he releases while an enemy is nearby, it causes a considerable amount of knockback and is good for getting offstage KOs. If used right after a jump or PK Fire, Lucas's PK Magnet will increase his momentum, and let him play with physics as if he was MC Escher.
Up B - PK Thunder. Ness's recovery will send enemies flying as soon as it connects, Lucas does so only at the end of the move. The first part of the move works at different speeds for them, and Lucas's can go through enemies, making it more effective. Ness's disappears after it touches an enemy, so it's really easy to **** up his recovery.
Grab - Lucas has a ranged grab, which also changes their playstyles a lot, since Ness benefits a lot from quick grabs and pivot grabs. Ness has a MUCH stronger back throw, one of the best throws in the game. Lucas doesn't have any awesome throws like that.
Lucas also has a tether recovery, which is great for when you're too close to the ledge for a PK thunder recovery, but too far to just grab it.
as you can see, I play both, but I do so in completely different ways.
@Humans: It's okay if they're "Cartoon" humans. I mean, look at Wario. He doesn't look Human the same way Marth and Snake do. Even Ness and Link are very different, and stylized enough so that they can work just fine in Brawl. But realistic humans do make the game less fun. Especially if their movesets are as boring as Marth and Ike's are.
@Metaknight: God, please make him go away. Or at the very least nerf the **** out of that guy. Make him the new Jigglypuff.
(but don't buff Jigglypuff. If Jiggly becomes a "good" char she'll stop being awesome. I like her the way she is now)
Post by: Cerebus on July 22, 2012, 12:34:43 AM
The only reason I didn't get SC5 is because they dropped all my favs (Xanguah (spelling?), Cassandra, Taki).
So yeah, I think dropping characters in fighting games is bad. The only time I would think it is ok to drop a character is if they had only been in the series for one game.
Feel the same way. They removed 9 characters, 7 of which I liked: Cassandra, Sophitia, Xianghua, Amy, Taki, Talim and Seong Mi-Na. And no, clones are not the same. I liked these characters, not copies of them.
At least they kept Voldo and added Dampierre, but that's not enough for me. Plus, new characters don't seem very interesting, or at least not enough for me to spend a single penny on that game.
And no story mode? Come on...
But anyway, yeah, I hate when they drop characters. I prefer Mewtwo over Lucario (who can go lick big sweaty hairy balls), and as for clones, I liked Pichu, Roy and Dr. Mario.
I can deal with the removal of the clones, but I really wish they had kept Mewtwo.
Also, they can nerf Meta-Knight, but I hope they keep him; I like him.
Oh and I agree with Lucas about the human thing.
I'd say one or two more "realistic" human wouldn't hurt the game considering the majority of them are unrealistic ones.
Post by: SaiKar on July 22, 2012, 01:52:28 AM
Feel the same way. They removed 9 characters, 7 of which I liked: Cassandra, Sophitia, Xianghua, Amy, Taki, Talim and Seong Mi-Na.Geez, it's like a girl genocide.
Post by: Cerebus on July 22, 2012, 02:08:34 AM
Post by: Meiscool on July 22, 2012, 06:10:53 AM
Long post about the difference between ness and lucasSame could be said about Fox/Falco/Wolf, Falcon/Ganon, Luigi/Mario, etc.
Post by: Felix-0 on July 22, 2012, 06:48:57 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7255/7494653034_631fd1df2f_o.jpg)
So, Namco is going to be handling a lot of the development.
The Roster is NOT going to be bigger than Brawls.
It might be even smaller.
Post by: ellie-is on July 22, 2012, 07:23:49 PM
The Roster is NOT going to be bigger than Brawls.That's some great news, actually. I like that.
It might be even smaller.
Post by: Archem on July 22, 2012, 07:51:33 PM
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 22, 2012, 08:56:25 PM
Post by: Cerebus on July 22, 2012, 09:29:43 PM
Post by: fruckert on July 22, 2012, 09:35:59 PM
Post by: Cerebus on July 22, 2012, 10:04:34 PM
Post by: ellie-is on July 22, 2012, 11:13:56 PM
I doubt I'm ever going to get a WiiU or 3DS anyways.
Yeah... I'll get a 3DS if I have lots of spar money (which I won't have). Wii U is sort of... "No, thanks".
I hope NAMCO doesn't change much. If they can remove the right characters, it will be wonderful for balancing and such and the game will be better (as they will have less to work on, and will be able to focus on other things).
Just hope I don't end up with anything that even resembles their games. Not really a Tekken/Soul Calibur fan, to be honest, if you ignore the character creation from Soul Calibur.
(ps: A "Mii" character would be awesome. Some really "average" guy, like Mario, with some basic projectiles and such, and then you can customize his face, colors, and the animation/effects for the attacks, all the changes you do being purely cosmetic)
Post by: Meiscool on July 22, 2012, 11:30:48 PM
If not then there is no point.
Post by: Felix-0 on July 23, 2012, 04:10:13 AM
If new SSB adds in newer characters and gets rid of a few clones and people like
R.O.B and such. I'll be happy.
I had MR G&W for my Game Boy.
I've never seen Ice Climbers, ever. Don't own it. Have a huge amount of NES games, not that one. C:
Post by: ellie-is on July 23, 2012, 07:47:58 AM
I don't play him, nor do I find him that interesting, but I don't see nothing really wrong with him.
Post by: Felix-0 on July 23, 2012, 08:04:10 AM
What's with all the R.O.B. hate? He's a cool guy!He didn't fit, he doesn't fit.
I don't play him, nor do I find him that interesting, but I don't see nothing really wrong with him.
He was hardly played.
Post by: ellie-is on July 23, 2012, 10:12:59 AM
Post by: Prpl_Mage on July 23, 2012, 02:06:31 PM
I don't play him, nor do I find him that interesting, but I don't see nothing really wrong with him.
In other words: people won't rage or miss him once he's demoted to an assist trophy or something.
Post by: Cerebus on July 23, 2012, 08:28:17 PM
nor do I find him that interesting
He had some unique, interesting mechanics.
Inconsistency!
I do like R.O.B. I disagree with his removal.
But then again, chances are I won't buy the new Smash Bros. anyway so they can do whatever the Hell they want, I actually don't care.
Post by: Grandy on July 23, 2012, 10:46:28 PM
Paid-DLC-in-disk-Bamco?
Post by: ellie-is on July 23, 2012, 11:04:44 PM
One thing I hope they do in this game: Patches. For ****'s sake, it's not hard to make a patch to fix mistakes. That way, Overpowered characters can be fixed as needed if the balance isn't right at launch.
Post by: fruckert on July 23, 2012, 11:20:31 PM
Not purely the fault of Brawl.
Post by: Archem on July 23, 2012, 11:30:50 PM
Post by: ellie-is on July 23, 2012, 11:36:08 PM
The Wii's online structure is broken anyways.My homebrew channel updates work just fine. Hard too believe inde developers can make it work, but Nintendo can't.
Not purely the fault of Brawl.
Post by: fruckert on July 23, 2012, 11:42:49 PM
I respect the philosophy of innovating with the past, but it's not working in the internet department.
Post by: ellie-is on July 24, 2012, 02:36:44 AM
Post by: Archem on July 24, 2012, 04:39:36 AM
Post by: greenraven on July 26, 2012, 12:49:51 AM
Post by: Felix-0 on July 26, 2012, 01:14:31 AM
Post by: ellie-is on July 26, 2012, 01:41:52 AM
I bitch about bitches who bitch about how broken it is when it is not all that broken and is extremely playable under competitive circumstances despite what they all say.
Post by: Cerebus on July 26, 2012, 01:56:19 AM
Post by: greenraven on July 26, 2012, 02:11:37 AM
Post by: Grandy on July 26, 2012, 02:18:31 AM
Personally I play with items on and on every stage BUT final destination. :D
At least you don't use characters other than Fox like some anarchists out there.
Post by: ellie-is on July 26, 2012, 02:22:21 AM
I'm not too bad at playing Sonic, either.
@greenraven: What! Final Destination and Battlefield are the only stages worth playing on! They're *neutral*!
Post by: Cerebus on July 26, 2012, 03:37:33 AM
I also love thematic fights. Like, Mario theme, Zelda theme, space theme, girls only, etc.
I hate any moving stage, though.
Post by: greenraven on July 26, 2012, 03:50:44 AM
I hate any moving stage, though.
You sir are my eternal enemy for I am an avid fan of Big Blue. _veryangry_
Post by: Archem on July 26, 2012, 04:02:07 AM
Post by: SaiKar on July 26, 2012, 04:26:15 AM
You sir are my eternal enemy for I am an avid fan of Big Blue. _veryangry_Same here. Big Blue is fun. Also loved Pokefloats. Really, any stage that let me abuse the hell out of Peach was good times in Melee. Can't really do any fun stuff like that in Brawl though.
Post by: greenraven on July 26, 2012, 04:34:25 AM
Same here. Big Blue is fun. Also loved Pokefloats.
Oh god I almost forgot about Pokefloats, that map was crazy fun.
Post by: Felix-0 on July 26, 2012, 04:56:08 AM
(Links sword compared to Lucas' Stick.)
Tech Chasing was god awful, comboing was very clunky.
It IS playable competitive, because just about anything can be played competitive and professional.
But the level of depth and technicality was lowered.
Tech chasing with Marth in Brawl is god awful...
Post by: ellie-is on July 26, 2012, 06:00:47 AM
Tripping is dumb, characters have more horizontal launch than others, which made them more powerful.Huh, what? Every attack is different. If they were all the same strength there would be no point in having different characters?
(Links sword compared to Lucas' Stick.)
Each character is better at KOing in a diferent way. Link has some great moves for causing upward KOs, Ness has awesome horizontal throws, smash and an air attack, as well as a (kind of cheap) spike (that I love), Squirtle will combo the **** out of someone outside the stage for horizontal KOs, etc.
Post by: Felix-0 on July 26, 2012, 06:42:07 AM
Huh, what? Every attack is different. If they were all the same strength there would be no point in having different characters?
Each character is better at KOing in a diferent way. Link has some great moves for causing upward KOs, Ness has awesome horizontal throws, smash and an air attack, as well as a (kind of cheap) spike (that I love), Squirtle will combo the **** out of someone outside the stage for horizontal KOs, etc.
Yes, some characters will have combo ability, but many more have potential, as proven in ProjectM.
Also yes, Of course abilities have different strengths. But knockbacks and knockups are inconsistent.
Post by: Cerebus on July 26, 2012, 10:52:07 AM
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on July 26, 2012, 10:58:01 AM
Post by: Cerebus on July 26, 2012, 11:03:00 AM
Last time I played, I think I tripped a minimum of 10 times per match. That's stupid.
Post by: Felix-0 on July 26, 2012, 11:41:14 AM
Ike, Ganon, D.D.D, Bowser.
That's why they weren't played more over characters such as
Marth, MK, Falco, ect.
http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Tier_list
The list has changed after awhile.
I see it took people about a year or so to realize the kill potential and almost broken utility Olimar has.
Pikmin Order's Super Armor. Namely.
Post by: ellie-is on July 26, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Post by: Felix-0 on July 27, 2012, 01:47:18 AM
Far as I know people have been abusing Olimar's cheapness since the day it came out. He's always been top tier.
A year ago, everyone though Marth would become S tier.
And Olimar was C rank, and Marth was A rank.
Now, we see Falco, Snake, and Diddy as A rank, and Marth fell down to B.
The tiers went like.
S, A, B, C, D, F
Meta as S, Ganondorf as F.
The fact that their is a ,,G,H. Rank, shows terrible balancing.
Post by: Archem on July 27, 2012, 03:11:30 AM
Post by: ellie-is on July 27, 2012, 04:57:11 AM
A year ago, everyone though Marth would become S tier.Most of the characters I play are low tier, because they're the most fun ones, and I can still win fights with them.
And Olimar was C rank, and Marth was A rank.
Now, we see Falco, Snake, and Diddy as A rank, and Marth fell down to B.
The tiers went like.
S, A, B, C, D, F
Meta as S, Ganondorf as F.
The fact that their is a ,,G,H. Rank, shows terrible balancing.
Also, Metaknight has always been top tier. Literally, the top character in the tier.
Until he was banned. Now he is banned. And I'm happy.
Post by: Felix-0 on July 27, 2012, 06:42:23 AM
Most of the characters I play are low tier, because they're the most fun ones, and I can still win fights with them.I know, but Marth used to be A rank, and people though he would rise to S rank when Meta was banned... but
Also, Metaknight has always been top tier. Literally, the top character in the tier.
Until he was banned. Now he is banned. And I'm happy.
the metagame changes to camp/range play style. That's how champs with camping abilities, extra range, and good frames made it to the top.
The old metagame was fast pace/flat map characters.
Post by: ellie-is on July 27, 2012, 07:04:56 AM
The fact that it changes actually shows how the game is well balanced. Since characters are always changing tiers. Means that the big difference is in how it is being played and not in the chars.
Post by: Felix-0 on July 27, 2012, 09:09:03 AM
Not Nintendo's fault that the metagame changes. It's called metagame for a reason. And Nintendo can't predict it.except link, ganon, and a few other characters have ALWAYS stayed at the bottom.
The fact that it changes actually shows how the game is well balanced. Since characters are always changing tiers. Means that the big difference is in how it is being played and not in the chars.
This game is not "well balanced." Please, don't even ever suggest it is.
It's balanced, but there could've been a MUCH better balance job done. Then again, Nintendo is new to the competitive gaming scene, hopefully they've caught on and SSBU will be better.
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on July 27, 2012, 01:35:34 PM
Post by: fruckert on July 27, 2012, 07:34:35 PM