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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Drace on February 14, 2009, 06:08:09 PM

Title: Moderation thread.
Post by: Drace on February 14, 2009, 06:08:09 PM
I want more threads!

See, uptight bitches, now I'm asking it EVEN THOUGH THE TOPIC TITLE MENTIONS IT. Also Drag, do something 'bout your act, cause you've been an uptight bitch lately who acts like he's an old grumpy old bitch of 95.
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Grandy on February 14, 2009, 06:09:24 PM
....

:D
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Drace on February 14, 2009, 06:13:04 PM
Also, Drag, stop closing bloody threads. This isn't an uptight forum. The bots topic was a comedy relief topic. Closing it was wrong of you.
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Ben on February 14, 2009, 06:42:57 PM
no it wasnt.
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: WarxePB on February 14, 2009, 07:13:23 PM
Resistance is futile, Drace. The Mod Team will add your biological and internet distinctiveness to their own.

If you want more threads, post some intelligent discussion threads. Not "waaaah I want to post more".
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Grandy on February 14, 2009, 07:24:45 PM
Nah, I agree with Drace in this one, as in Drag needs to chill the **** down. I'm already coming less to this forum because there are less interesting and silly topics, and when a topic gets silly and interesting it gets locked.
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 14, 2009, 07:29:12 PM
The bots topic got off into a discussion about bots, so it was off-topic.
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Grandy on February 14, 2009, 07:32:00 PM
So? This topic is not about how Drace wants more threads anymore, it's going off-topic.

Oooh, I can see a dark cloud getting over it already.
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 14, 2009, 07:42:25 PM
It started as a serious thread, it has to continue serious.

If you want silly threads, make them. Or ask for unmod back. Or something.

What, you didn't think us building our own bot was serious?
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Grandy on February 14, 2009, 07:46:13 PM
Ooookay. I'll make a silly thread, let's see just how long it lasts, shall we?
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Fisherson on February 14, 2009, 07:52:06 PM
If you want silly threads, make them. Or ask for unmod back. Or something.

You know maybe that's no such a bad idea. I mean haven't we all learned our lession about unmod? I think we're much more responsible than we were and it's time we at least discused it.

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Ooookay. I'll make a silly thread, let's see just how long it lasts, shall we?

I suport this 1000% Now there's somthing I haven't heard in a while.
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Dragonium on February 14, 2009, 08:03:14 PM
Also Drag, do something 'bout your act, cause you've been an uptight bitch lately who acts like he's an old grumpy old bitch of 95.

If you want more discussion threads, you should make discussion threads and wait for people to follow your example. You can't just post empty threads which contribute nothing. That's called "spam".

Also, Drag, stop closing bloody threads. This isn't an uptight forum. The bots topic was a comedy relief topic. Closing it was wrong of you.

Wrong. There has to be some order. There were something like 2 pages of pointless posts, I commented that people should get back on topic, the warning was ignored.

Everyone's complaining about how few mods there are around here currently. The ones who are left have to keep the place tidy.
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Drace on February 14, 2009, 08:31:30 PM
A topic should be able to change, seriously. I mean, we were goofing off, so what the ****? Who cares? The original 'goal' had been reached (options for a solution) so that means we can go slighty of topic. Topics shouldn't remain on exactly the same thing for a million pages. I remember when it didn't matter when we got slightly off topic. When it didn't matter we went from bots to robots. It's not the same as changig the bots topic into a topic about umbrellas.

Also, Drag, lock the Chuck Norris thread then. Cause they're talking about Chicago Ted. Lock it, it's off topic. Lock every bloody thread that becomes good because people are having fun with each other. Make this into a forum for old fat bastards who complain about everything and don't want to have fun. DO IT.
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Grandy on February 14, 2009, 08:32:08 PM
If you want more discussion threads, you should make discussion threads and wait for people to follow your example. You can't just post empty threads which contribute nothing. That's called "spam".

That's not what we are talking about. It's how you just seem to be acting egocentrical and childish, and doesn't post anything positive whatsoever.

 Quotes from other threads:
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Seriously though, get this thread back on-topic sharpish, or it's being locked and I'm PMing Archem pictures of fish.

 
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I hate every tiny itty-bitty aspect of this thread.

 
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NO THREADS 4 U

 
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God damn people, if you can't think of a good punchline, don't make the comic. I don't care if you bought Garry's Mod.

 
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Welcome to Charas. Mine is the only name you need remember.

 
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I'm considering changing the posts of anyone posting in a bot thread to something uncomfortably gay. People seem to like that.

 
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LOL I SO WITTY I MAKE FUNNY JOKE IN RESPONSE TO BOT ENTIRE TEAM IS BABIES.

 
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This is all concievable kinds of disturbing.
This one by itself is not so bad, but it's one of the many messages you post in bots threads, while yelling at the top of your lungs people shouldn't post in bot threads.

Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Dragonium on February 14, 2009, 08:44:47 PM
My apologies if the light-hearted posts I make offend you, while the light-hearted posts you make are sacred mantras which must be preserved for future generations. I'm just keeping order, guv'nor.

A topic should be able to change, seriously. I mean, we were goofing off, so what the ****? Who cares? The original 'goal' had been reached (options for a solution) so that means we can go slighty of topic.

No, that means the topic has no further purpose and off-topic posts after that are pointless. If you want an off-topic discussion, take it to PMs or Messenger. By your reasoning we may as well have no separate threads and boards, just one big imageboard where people can post whatever. Let's be 4chan.

This one by itself is not so bad, but it's one of the many messages you post in bots threads, while yelling at the top of your lungs people shouldn't post in bot threads.

There is a subtle and beautiful difference between me posting once in a thread which is at the top of the board immediately before I lock and junk it, and everyone posting heaps of crap into a bot thread, putting it on life-support at the top of the board for 12 hours when there are no mods around to step in and slap everyone about a bit.

You are far too eager to complain. Stop being different for the sake of being different.
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Drace on February 14, 2009, 08:50:48 PM
No, that means the topic has no further purpose and off-topic posts after that are pointless. If you want an off-topic discussion, take it to PMs or Messenger. By your reasoning we may as well have no separate threads and boards, just one big imageboard where people can post whatever. Let's be 4chan.

Everyone is far too eager to complain about little niggly things.

That topic has the purpose to entertain us. It's all of all, it's not "The Serious Business of Today and Yesterday."  No, I don't want to take it to PMs or Messenger, I want other people to join in into the fun, because this is a FORUM. A forum where more than one can post. PMs are PRIVATE  MESSAGES and messenger is quite personal too. You should be able to have FUN, like we did. Who's the only one who ruined it? Old mister grumpy over there, Dragonium.

And no, this isn't an imageboard so it shouldn't be like 4chan. We have seperate boards and threads to seperate each section. It's not as chaotic as 4chan, it's not even like 4chan, it's harmless fun. But I guess mister grumpy over there doesn't understand the word FUN. We shouldn't suffer because you don't like it. If you're going to lock topics for silly reasons like yours then you should be stripped of your moderation title.

LEARN TO INTERNET AND HAVE FUN DRAG. You old piece of doggy poopoo.
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Dragonium on February 14, 2009, 08:58:16 PM
Off-topic posts are semi-acceptable if they are all based on a similar theme - in that case, a new thread should be made for discussion of the new topic. Off-topic posts are unacceptable when they are spam or generic off-topic discussion. Otherwise the board gets cluttered. Of the two threads I locked (HEY THIS COMPLAINING ABOUT LOCKED THREADS SOUNDS FAMILIAR RITE GUISE), one was completely pointless, and the other had been off-topic for two pages and remained off-topic after I warned everyone about it. Both perfectly valid reasons. I'd appreciate some outside opinions, given that you and Grandy seem to be the only ones with a problem.

Oh, and please don't harken back to the grand old days of yore when Charas was fun. You are forgetting how strict Ghostclown was, and the forum is still alive and with the majority of its memberbase still active. Those nostalgia goggles look silly on you.
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Drace on February 14, 2009, 09:03:49 PM
If the old thread is done, then why not move on to a similiar topic in the same thread. It's not crazy what we're talking about, it's not about breaking the rules. And you should not talk about spam because you never seem to post anything lately that isn't just bitching about us having fun. That's the only spam that's bothering around here.

And about the good ol' days, silence you. Cause you're acting you're going to end just like Ghostclown. And who left? Ghostclown left. And even though he might have been strict, I can't remember him harming our harmless fun. You are.
Title: Re: This thread was about getting more threads, but is now about Dragonium.
Post by: Dragonium on February 14, 2009, 09:09:08 PM
If the old thread is done, then why not move on to a similiar topic in the same thread.

Again, you may as well just have one big thread and change the topic title accordingly. We have separate threads for a reason. That way, distinct, enclosed discussions can take place parallel to one another. If you stop using separate threads everywhere suffers.

And once again, I'm just keeping order. If you'd rather the place was filled with spam, that's your decision. I seem to recall that's why Unmod was closed down. Everyone decided it was for the best. You two are the only ones I've seen with an issue here.
Title: Re: This thread was about getting more threads, but is now about Dragonium.
Post by: Drace on February 14, 2009, 09:14:40 PM
Again, you may as well just have one big thread and change the topic title accordingly. We have separate threads for a reason. That way, distinct, enclosed discussions can take place parallel to one another. If you stop using separate threads everywhere suffers.

And once again, I'm just keeping order. If you'd rather the place was filled with spam, that's your decision. I seem to recall that's why Unmod was closed down. Everyone decided it was for the best. You two are the only ones I've seen with an issue here.

You're just asking me to make a thread about every off-topic thing there is, are you? Because I will. I will make a thread for everything that goes off-topic and it won't be that perfect little forum you think it would. Especially not with that first page so fucked up small as it is with all those stickied ones.
Title: Re: This thread was about getting more threads, but is now about Dragonium.
Post by: Dragonium on February 14, 2009, 09:17:53 PM
You're just asking me to make a thread about every off-topic thing there is, are you? Because I will. I will make a thread for everything that goes off-topic and it won't be that perfect little forum you think it would. Especially not with that first page so fucked up small as it is with all those stickied ones.

I was referring to putting distinct, worthy discussions in their own threads. There's no benefit to having a completely different serious discussion in the same thread as another different one which has just finished. Make new threads for those. The posts which have zero topic have no place in a serious on-topic thread. You don't seem to understand what constitutes "off-topic".
Title: Re: More threads!
Post by: Grandy on February 14, 2009, 09:35:34 PM
There is a subtle and beautiful difference between me posting once in a thread which is at the top of the board immediately before I lock and junk it, and everyone posting heaps of crap into a bot thread, putting it on life-support at the top of the board for 12 hours when there are no mods around to step in and slap everyone about a bit.

You are far too eager to complain. Stop being different for the sake of being different.

I aways only post on bot threads that are on top also, so there's really no difference at all.

Title: Re: This thread was about getting more threads, but is now about Dragonium.
Post by: Dragonium on February 14, 2009, 09:40:31 PM
I aways only post on bot threads that are on top also, so there's really no difference at all.

Do you lock them and remove them from the board immediately afterwards?
Title: Re: This thread was about getting more threads, but is now about Dragonium.
Post by: Grandy on February 14, 2009, 09:41:52 PM
Gimme mod powers and I will.

OR

You could just not post in them and lock them.

It's just the hypocrisy which pisses me off.
Title: Re: This thread was about getting more threads, but is now about Dragonium.
Post by: Drace on February 14, 2009, 09:44:46 PM
Dragonium, you're going off topic. Make a thread of your desired topic or PM Grandy but don't spam up my thread.
Title: Re: This thread was about getting more threads, but is now about Dragonium.
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 14, 2009, 09:45:16 PM
You could just not post in them and lock them.

It's just the hypocrisy which pisses me off.

If I recall, most posts I've seen locked contain a post by the mod saying 'locked.' That's the way it's been done for a while.
Title: Re: This thread was about getting more threads, but is now about Dragonium.
Post by: fruckert on February 14, 2009, 09:46:19 PM
Yup
Go to the Junk Bin and that's in most of them
Title: Re: This thread was about getting more threads, but is now about Dragonium.
Post by: Dragonium on February 14, 2009, 09:49:30 PM
Gimme mod powers and I will.

OR

You could just not post in them and lock them.

It's just the hypocrisy which pisses me off.

It's a different situation. I'm posting, if I wish, and then closing and moving the thread so that it's removed from the board. If people post but the thread stays where it is, it's not helping, it's just contributing to the spam. Ignore it if it upsets you that much. Nobody's asking you to trawl through the Junk Bin checking up on things.

Dragonium, you're going off topic. Make a thread of your desired topic or PM Grandy but don't spam up my thread.

Your troll might be more convincing were my name not in the topic title, and were my moderating methods not the topic of discussion.

Now are we done here?
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Drace on February 14, 2009, 09:53:25 PM
Your troll might be more convincing were my name not in the topic title, and were my moderating methods not the topic of discussion.

Now are we done here?

Read thread title. My troll is now convincing.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 14, 2009, 09:57:22 PM
Read thread title. My troll is now convincing.

Nice troll.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Dragonium on February 14, 2009, 10:20:06 PM
The thread is still about Dragonium. The thread is not about locking bot threads.

Seriously, are we done here or what? This thread is going nowhere. Yes or no.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Cerebus on February 14, 2009, 10:25:50 PM
Just a little suggestion... we could always re-open Unmod. If a thread in All of All or wherever else goes too much Off-Topic, just move it to Unmod or something.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Cerebus on February 14, 2009, 10:33:04 PM
Awesome idea!
But seriously, we could try re-opening Unmod. That way, people can post any kind of threads and go Off-Topic whenever they want... as long as it doesn't spread outside of it too much again.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Dragonium on February 14, 2009, 11:03:30 PM
We could also make it so unmod threads dont go to the first page. I think I remember someone complaining about how unmod threads were on the first page, screwing things up.

That was kind of a minor issue. Couldn't hurt to fix it though.

The main problem with Unmod is that people didn't get that it was the only place for spam. It kind of lowered the tone, and people took the other boards less seriously as well. In the end the spam leaked out, and it just wasn't worth having it. It'd take serious consideration if we were to reopen it.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Drace on February 14, 2009, 11:54:35 PM
What is so serious about a forum for (mostly young people) who like to make crappy indie games?
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Drace on February 15, 2009, 12:06:42 AM
Actually, most of the active members are 18+.

And we cant let it become full of spam. But anyway. I think its better to keep it all in one big spam thread than having 5 small threads on the main page like the ones done today.

I say we make an AoA thread where people are allowed to spam all they want.

18+, most likely. But the average is still around the 20. Now with young, I understand everything under the 25, cause that's still the time your getting settled with life.

On your second point, I wholeheartly agree. Let a died out thread go a bit off-topic so people can have their steam-off. It's better than having five threads of spam (as I made an example off) that fill the entire page, than one thread that's gone off-topic after the original topic has been settled.

On your last point, I disagree. Such a topic would not be too much fun and practically useless, cause people will spam anyways in other threads because something in a specific thread is being said. A better idea would be a forum gaming thread where the objective is to make a post as off topic as possible, but still a pretty useless idea.

The big point is: A thread should be able to go off-topic. Final. Topics create other topics which leads to other topics. We jump from subject to subject. Making tiny threads about these little subjects is useless if we can just keep it in one thread.

I would like to hear some opinions of other moderators and members about this. Dragonium, I know your opinion, so you don't have to reply.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Grandy on February 15, 2009, 12:34:06 AM

The big point is: A thread should be able to go off-topic. Final. Topics create other topics which leads to other topics. We jump from subject to subject. Making tiny threads about these little subjects is useless if we can just keep it in one thread.

I would like to hear some opinions of other moderators and members about this. Dragonium, I know your opinion, so you don't have to reply.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/GrandyGuy/ohtheirony.png)

That's my two cents.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 15, 2009, 12:36:38 AM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/GrandyGuy/ohtheirony.png)

That's my two cents.

So, this is to be an Unmoderated board?
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Grandy on February 15, 2009, 12:37:46 AM
No, an off-topic board.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 15, 2009, 12:39:52 AM
No, an off-topic board.

As in, Off-the-topic-of-RPG-Maker, or as in Off-Topic-So-Be-It?
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Grandy on February 15, 2009, 12:41:37 AM
As in "If we start talking about cars but the talk changes to motorbikes, we are allowed to continue talking about motorbikes."
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 15, 2009, 12:43:20 AM
As in "If we start talking about cars but the talk changes to motorbikes, we are allowed to continue talking about motorbikes."

But we're allowed to post Off-topic?
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Drace on February 15, 2009, 01:25:53 AM
Grandy win.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Archem on February 15, 2009, 03:54:58 AM
Hey, guys.

Stop being serious about the unserious. It's poor form. Nobody bitches when it starts raining while they're flying kites. If the fun ends, pack up, go home, and come back tomorrow.

Don't hang the weather girl.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Cosmos on February 15, 2009, 05:55:28 AM
You've gotta be shitting me...

I've taken time away from Charas because it annoys me when topics are split/merged/locked due to subject change. SRLY???

Draggie, I think you're a good mod who cares about the site lots but you don't need to go mod status when a topic changes. The whole point of conversation is to be everywhere YET there is a difference between topic changes and spam.

I totally understand if they're writing stupidity like "lulz /b/ ect" but are they?

Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot thre
Post by: Razor on February 15, 2009, 06:13:14 AM
I'm away for one day and this happens.


First off, Lucas needs to stop telling everyone I'm inactive. I came back into activity a week ago and I've been banning bots whereever I see them.
Secondly, I partially disagree with Drag's locking of that one thread. Sure it was stupid, but it wasn't hurting anyone.
Thirdmost, all of you shut up because I don't know what you're complaining about anymore.
Fourthlike, "Off-Topic" in the sense of the forum means off topic from RPG Maker and the rest of the forums.

FIFTHFORE, having just looked at the other threads made in the wake of the discussion in this thread, you people are retarded. OH I DON'T AGREE WITH DRAGONIUMS RATHER STRICT AND SERIOUS MODERATING SO I'LL MAKE THESE SILLY SPAM THREADS LOL FISH LOL SILLY CAN'T LOCK DON'T LOCK LOLOLOL you are ****ing stupid. Cut this ****.
Goddamn I shake my head in disgust. THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. YOU'VE DISGUSTED ME.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: SaiKar on February 15, 2009, 06:31:09 AM
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

If I wasn't a lazy bastage, I'd be posting a link to that time Robotam called out Carmen and GhostClown. But I ain't looking through all this stuff to find that thread. So just pretend I posted that link instead.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Ben on February 15, 2009, 06:45:30 AM
Dragonium is a good mod.
He dosent think youre all fags.
Which is more then can be said for me, and i was a damn admin.

His job is to be effective.


I havent even read the OP or the first page at all, but im willing to bet that in the subline root of this thread, im willing to bet that its because some whiney faglord thinks in the back of his/her mind that calling out ineffective mods and admind will somehow make him mod/coolguy of the week.

Razor is not inactive. the mods are there to deal with the public, and post frequently....and the admins are there to no post frequently, and reamin enigmatic godlike and govern over the rest of the staff. Its a heirarchy, live with it.
Razor is pretty much the best thing this website has going for it right now...and dragonium is right up there too.

You idiots bitch when there is slack moderation, you bitch with heavy moderation, and you bitch even more when a happy balance is maintained.

Im going to go read the OP and first page now, and then Ill edit this with my final verdict


EDIT: Ban drace. He started the thread to garner more posts.for one week. Humble that gaylord. And everything I said above still stands.


I expected more from all of you. even drace.


Also, dont bring back unmod. this isnt 4chan for kids. Its a discussion forum on RPGmaker2003. Change the name of OFF TOPIC to GENERAL DISCUSSION and then nobody can bitch when mods do what they are supposed to do.

Every staff member and former staff member who posts currently will tell you....youre being stupid little bitches
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot thre
Post by: Razor on February 15, 2009, 06:52:40 AM
Ahhh yes, those were good times.
In a few years all the current mods will have had their names dragged through the dirt and spat upon, and the cycle will begin anew.

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Yes you probably should read the whole thread first. But I d'awwwed.
Oh **** he did read the threads. Oh boy.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Cosmos on February 15, 2009, 07:28:59 AM
Sai is so right. Despite the changes made, the same problems exist. Of course Draggie's a good mod, just gotta let some things slide.

FYI: No the spam board will not come back. It was made, ya'll were happy but got bored & it was removed. Then ppl asked for it back before the SAME fuckin people demanded it's removal.

Stop making demands and complaining about EVERYTHING. ****, even though I disagree with some of his choices at least he's making an effort.

I disagree with banning Drace.

Razor, remove the word filter please...?
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Ben on February 15, 2009, 07:43:01 AM
The ban drace comment whas rhetoric. I assumed that wouldnt be taken seriously. This is my sad face
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Razor on February 15, 2009, 09:00:22 AM
What word filter?
Swearing? No. Swearing word filter stays. Even if most of us are old enough to swear I hardly think it would be in the spirit of Charas to embrace digital blasphemy.

BLASPHEMY.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot thre
Post by: Drace on February 15, 2009, 09:49:48 AM
Seeing as you're all a bit confused, I'll reask my question for the mods and admins.

Question: Should a topic be locked just because we're jumping to the next topic when a solution has been found for  the original topic? Or should the members of this forum be allowed to have some fun?

Now, the reason for all these little spam threads I made was to examplify just how irritating it is to make a new thread for each and every topic. Dragonium mentioned PMing people every time you wanna off topic, but I'd rather share the fun with the entire forum than just one person. Cause, PM is a private message.

I do apologise for making all the spam threads, but I felt the need to make an example of how irritating it is to have a million spam threads while we can have just one thread that's gone off topic.

So, to Razor, Midnight, Saikar and anyone who's been offended, my sincere apologies.


EDIT: Except to gemini for not even taking his time to read carefully about the subject at hand. Jeeze, I'm not bitching about inactive mods and admins cause for all I know, they're doing a bloody good job. Also, I did not start this thread for more posts, just to make people more aware of a level of strictness that shouldn't be there. I don't care if all threads I made yesterday will get deleted, post count =/= penis size.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot threads
Post by: Ben on February 15, 2009, 10:19:21 AM
OH MY BAD.

I MUST HAVE JUST BEEN THROWN OFF BY
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I want more threads!

See, uptight bitches, now I'm asking it EVEN THOUGH THE TOPIC TITLE MENTIONS IT. Also Drag, do something 'bout your act, cause you've been an uptight bitch lately who acts like he's an old grumpy old bitch of 95.
Title: Re: Was about more threads, now about Dragonium, not about dealing with bot thre
Post by: Drace on February 15, 2009, 10:24:02 AM
OH MY BAD.

I MUST HAVE JUST BEEN THROWN OFF BY

That was meant as a "I want more discussions". It's not meant as a "I want to increase my post count", but as a "Make this place a bit more livelier(sp?)".

EDIT: Made the thread name shorter again, but still easy to notice for the mods and admins.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Razor on February 15, 2009, 11:11:35 AM
Well as we all know I've been an advocate for evolving discussion in threads forever.
HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS FROM AN ADMIN PERSPECTIVE?
GOOD QUESTION
more on that later
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: SaiKar on February 15, 2009, 04:44:48 PM
So, to Razor, Midnight, Saikar and anyone who's been offended, my sincere apologies.

Offended? Are you kidding me? Maybe it's been a few years and you've forgotten or maybe nobody ever really knew to begin with, but I always on the side of people that wanted to have more freedoms like being able to go off topic in threads and be able to protest bad moderation. Power to the peoples. That's how that Robotam / GC Carmen thing got so big to begin with, and why I did what I did afterward. Though it seems a lot of the changes I made have been reversed since then.

That doesn't mean I agree with you here, or am saying that Draggy has been doing a bad job. I really have no idea. In fact, you shouldn't even have to apologize to me on general principle. Despite various forum permissions, I am not part of the staff anymore. I'm just here because Midnight said things were getting interesting and, by God, she was right.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on February 15, 2009, 06:47:46 PM
Oh my.  This thread has turned into a bitchfest on both sides.

Seriously people, calm the **** down already.  It is a ****ing forum get over it.

If you believe that a moderator is abusing their power to lock threads, send a private message to an admin for the staff to discuss it.  If you really want the opinion of everyone, then post a polite thread, not a '**** YOU BITCHES I WANT THIS TO CHANGE NOW' thread.

I believe, sure, if a thread get s little off-topic, who cares.  To fix it, make a post that is related to the original topic, don't tell everyone to go back to the topic or else.

Though, if you don't want to change the topic, then just make a new thread discussing the new topic.  Not that hard really.

Drace needs to clam down.  Really, there was a better way to do this.  Drag, I understand that you must be frustrated with all of this, but do not fight back, it just makes it all worse.  Politeness is key. 

This situation was just seemingly unnecessary.  Calm down people of charas, please?



Take what you will of my opinion.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: fruckert on February 15, 2009, 06:52:32 PM
Agrees wholeheartedly
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Drace on February 15, 2009, 06:55:40 PM
Oh my.  This thread has turned into a bitchfest on both sides.

Drace needs to clam down.

1) No, not really.

2) Clearly, you've not read my latest posts. I am quite calm. You should have made this post a few pages back but you're kinda late with it now.

3) Lucas, get out of the thread if you're not contributing.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: SaiKar on February 15, 2009, 06:58:39 PM
I'm really not sure who started that whole "PM someone if you have a problem" thing. Probably those sneaky mods themselves.

The only way you'll ever get a broad-scectrum change in moderator policy is by making a big fuss over it. Which can get a little ugly at times, sure, but dems the breaks. One PM from one person is easily ignored. A lot of people agreeing that something needs to be done; considerably less so.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Ben on February 15, 2009, 07:00:50 PM
a/f/l? I agree


Drace just because your "tone" is calm, dosent mean you arent sanding up your vag about something or another. What they are saying, is STFU and quit whining about every policy you can find to whine about. The staff is good to you, and there are ways of addressing this sort of thin in a non confrontational manner.

Calm or not, your stance on this is purely confrontational.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: fruckert on February 15, 2009, 07:02:07 PM
Agreeing with Gem
And has no other thing to contribute to the conversation, so I'll STFU
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Drace on February 15, 2009, 07:03:22 PM
a/f/l? I agree


Drace just because your "tone" is calm, dosent mean you arent sanding up your vag about something or another. What they are saying, is STFU and quit whining about every policy you can find to whine about. The staff is good to you, and there are ways of addressing this sort of thin in a non confrontational manner.

Calm or not, your stance on this is purely confrontational.

Confrontational, yes. But that was the main goal. Read Saikar's post, 'nough said.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Ben on February 15, 2009, 07:11:22 PM
Re-read every post youve made in the last week.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: SaiKar on February 15, 2009, 07:26:27 PM
Well Drace, I think your problem is that not enough people are agreeing with you. Big fussy thread or not, one person is still only one.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Ben on February 15, 2009, 07:36:12 PM
 Yep. that pretty much sums it up. Any personal dislike toward drace aside, hes pretty much butthurt....Methinks he wanted everyone to say
"O YA UR TTLY RIGHT. YOU SHOULD BE A MOD DRACE"


But then again, hes not reading this, because apparently charas has an ignore function with an inconsitient reply function, and Drace can no longer view anything I type. Im fine with this....Imaginary ignore or not.


Personally, I dont think anything is wrong with the current moderation. I think aside from the bots, and the general sense of pre-pubescent ADHD/offtopicism-that-has-to-be-kicked-in-the-***-from-time-to-time everything is going well.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Drace on February 15, 2009, 08:07:46 PM
Well Drace, I think your problem is that not enough people are agreeing with you. Big fussy thread or not, one person is still only one.

*points at Grandy*

I don't care if a lot of people agree with me, really. I just don't want died-out topics to be locked when we're having fun. That's all I want.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Cosmos on February 15, 2009, 11:51:02 PM
Drace, no need to apologize since I agree with you.

Charas is fuckin bipolar.

Note: Me & Sai only visit to watch Charas bitchfits =D
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on February 16, 2009, 03:57:59 AM
Note: Me & Sai only visit to watch Charas bitchfits =D

...

I love how bitch isn't censored.  How odd is that?
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Ben on February 16, 2009, 10:01:08 AM
****** is though. and i think niggerdicks and niggertits is as well. However, many other racial slurs are not filtered. Kike, Honky, Heeb, Spic ,cracker,Jap and paki.

Note: I use these words in a completely regretful manner, and I use them strictly for the sake of example. I am hoping to help discover new words that need to be addressed in the charas word filter.

Other words, that are significantly less offensive, but would keep things fun, that i also think should be censored are as follows.

Gran
Naruto
the
sprites
the letter E
various memeber names, my own included.
Bukakke
Unmod
boneriffic
Batman



If anyone else knows of any words that are not filtered
that should be filtered, Id love to hear Ideas. It will make charas a more effective communiy.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Drace on February 16, 2009, 11:15:31 AM
...

I love how bitch isn't censored.  How odd is that?

There is a weird selective censorship here. For all I know, only the F-word is cencored.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: fruckert on February 16, 2009, 07:25:57 PM
*** bitch **** and **** are censores

We have a bad censor, methinks
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Razor on February 16, 2009, 09:24:09 PM
Other words, that are significantly less offensive, but would keep things fun, that i also think should be censored are as follows.

Gran
I see what you did there.


Yeah you guys complain about bitch being uncensored but the VERY NEXT DAY AFTER I PUT THAT FILTER ON someone's going to make a "my Labrador ***** hasn't been very active lately help" and then "hey omg why is ***** censored it's a perfectly usable word"
I can predict this because Red recently got a job involving dog husbandry.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Bluhman on February 16, 2009, 09:36:18 PM
Uh oh, we're discussing the word filter now. Quick, lock the topic.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Dominicy on February 16, 2009, 10:06:25 PM
In b4 ****-piss-****-cocksucker-mother****er-and-tits
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Dragonium on February 16, 2009, 10:37:18 PM
"my Labrador ***** hasn't been very active lately help"

REMINDS ME OF SOMEONE.

DOHOHO.

Bluhman's biting satire hurts me inside. ;_;
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Archem on February 17, 2009, 01:30:37 AM
Uh oh, we're discussing the word filter now. Quick, lock the topic.
Hohohoho! Have five American dollars!
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Red Giant on February 17, 2009, 02:31:32 AM
dog husbandry.

Bitches? Oh I am crazy about bitches. I'm into bird-watching too, of late; it's beautiful to see a fully plumed weenie in mating season. My love of animals stems from early childhood readings of moby dick. You know, the one who swallows all the seamen?



EDIT: COCK IS THE CORRECT TERM FOR A MALE BIRD AND CHARAS IS FASCIST
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Meiscool on February 17, 2009, 03:32:46 AM
Haha, drag's a bitch nigga.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Archem on February 17, 2009, 04:23:07 AM
EDIT: COCK IS THE CORRECT TERM FOR A MALE BIRD AND CHARAS IS FASCIST
Not only that, but cock is my favorite word!
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Razor on February 17, 2009, 06:53:17 AM
Cock was wordfiltered too?
Hmm. Well I know dick WASN'T censored because it is a name.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Ben on February 17, 2009, 07:07:38 PM
this topic has gone hideously awry and I demmand it be locked.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Ben on February 17, 2009, 08:05:23 PM
do it.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 17, 2009, 08:50:22 PM
Oh jesus. What have we here?

For what it's worth I'll give you a history lesson:

Alex's original instructions were that threads should be allowed to live so long as they served some purpose. Locking would be used as a last resort. Sai kept that policy too.

The reason we changed the policy is because charas became very spammy and several members called for harsher moderation towards off topic threads. This is why we promoted Drag and Bluhman. Their jobs were to be 'hard' mods. (Some people, particularly Grandy, have complained that the decision was made without consulting the majority of the members and that a large percentage of the members liked charas the way it was before the harsher rules. Grandy believed we plucked this 'members wanted change' from practically nowhere. By the way Grandy, if it was someone else that said this, then sorry :p)

We have to decide now where we want charas to go. There've been a few complaints about the stricter modding and since we're such a small forum, the opinions of a few members can actually bring about a lot of change.

I'm finding it hard to swing one way or the other regarding the argument but I've gotta admit that the rm2k element of the forum, and in the internet in general, has pretty much dried up. If hardly anyone wants to talk about rm2k3, locking off topic threads so that they don't bury the on topic rm2k threads seems a little pointless. I believe that the moderator's job on forums like charas is to make sure everyone has fun and is able to have fun. If spam is threatening to spoil the more serious member's fun, it should be kept in check. If moderation methods are actually making the forum less fun overall, then they should be reconsidered.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 17, 2009, 08:53:59 PM
Simple. We get mod consensus. Not all of them, but if at least two/three agree to have a thread locked, then lock away.

Except for the obvious flaming/attack, spambot, rule-breaking threads.


By the way, isn't this whole thing why we have a mayor? For members to discuss with and have insight onto the problems of Charas?
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: fruckert on February 17, 2009, 11:25:25 PM
He has no house
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: fruckert on February 17, 2009, 11:44:33 PM
There was a hurricane recently dude
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Grandy on February 17, 2009, 11:46:17 PM
...seriously? Whoa. And here I thought he just got feed up with our constant squabbles.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: fruckert on February 17, 2009, 11:47:44 PM
That's the story that I remember from his momentary good-bye thread
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: WarxePB on February 18, 2009, 12:13:18 AM
Then the natural answer is to get a new mayor. I vote for Drace.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Dragonium on February 18, 2009, 12:32:32 AM
That's the story that I remember from his momentary good-bye thread

I thought he left because he didn't have a job or any money and his parents kicked him out?

I also concur with the idea of a new mayor. Zeek's term has ended anyway, and we should keep it as a regular thing.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: fruckert on February 18, 2009, 12:33:55 AM
After looking at his good-bye thread, noticed that he didn't explain

But he is homeless, just not necessarily house all explodey

EDIT: And I agree with new mayor
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Archem on February 18, 2009, 01:18:54 AM
I miss Zeek. :(
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Ben on February 18, 2009, 07:23:03 AM
i vote lucas for any possible position that could arise that required a vote.
Drace is too moody,
and (No offense Ed) but I have it from a chosenly anonymous source that Ed is a poor Moderator. And im gay for him...
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Drace on February 18, 2009, 09:23:32 AM
Don't want to be the mayor Warxe. I don't like the big jobs.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 18, 2009, 08:08:44 PM
And im gay for him...

NO GEMINI I SED WE WER THRU.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Ben on February 18, 2009, 10:28:27 PM
NO GEMINI I SED WE WER THRU.

You said it, sure, and then you told me you couldnt quit me, and we mansecks in teh tent ed.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 18, 2009, 10:32:11 PM
You said it, sure, and then you told me you couldnt quit me, and we mansecks in teh tent ed.

RAEP IN MY SLEEP DUZNT COUNT.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Archem on February 19, 2009, 01:48:12 AM
It does if someone has it on video! *holds up camera*
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: drenrin2120 on February 19, 2009, 03:58:31 PM
We should pool our funds and go on an adventure to save Zeek.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 19, 2009, 05:30:52 PM
I support a mayor election. I also support Lucas or someone like that as a candidate.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Ben on February 20, 2009, 07:21:25 PM
Well, some mod or another must have access to the news forum. If not, then im sure Razor can put you in the usergroup that is allowed to post there. (Manage usergroups)
Make a signup nomination thread. Keep the reg. period short...
Have a fun peroid of nifty posters and slogans
Hold a vote
New mayor.
Do it.

Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on February 22, 2009, 01:53:07 AM
Hm.

Methinks this is quite a turn of events.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Revolution911 on February 24, 2009, 12:34:41 AM
Charas is made of silly billy's


You're all silly billy's.


Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Red Giant on February 24, 2009, 12:55:09 AM
failpostrophe



EDIT: unless we belong to silly billy?
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: Archem on February 24, 2009, 03:09:09 AM
I prefer to be called a "Humorous William", thankyouverymuch.
Title: Re: Moderation thread.
Post by: fruckert on February 24, 2009, 03:10:57 AM
Mai naems Jim, thank yeh vary mach