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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Valiere on March 28, 2009, 11:02:45 PM
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So I'm an art student, and in one of my classes we draw nude models. There's this one dude in my class who...well, you know those plastic "hillbilly teeth" you get out of cheesy vending machines? He has that kind of overbite where his top set of teeth are permanently on display. And he will not stop talking to me. He constantly walks up to me with those ever-staring eyes and tries to make conversation, even though I do my best to give off uninterested vibes. I don't want to be a jerk, but this guy just won't take a hint.
I could maybe understand if he wanted some drawing advice, since he's the most craptacular artist I've ever seen (I'm fully convinced any one of you could out-draw this guy, who is ostensibly an art major), and I'm probably the most experienced student in the class at life drawing, but he never wants to talk about drawing, just about me and my life.
Oh, and today he asked to take a camera-phone picture of the model to take home and -- you know -- practice drawing with. And by "practice" I mean "jack" and by "drawing" I mean "off." The teacher, who seems to find him about as creepy as I do, was understandably hesitant. It didn't help that the model, while probably 40+, wasn't bad on the eyes and was pretty busty. On the way out of class, he told me, "You look tired," which is one word away from the universal pervert pick-up line "You look tense." I almost laughed but instead said, "I'm fine," and hurried out.
But I'm kinda droning on here. I'm not really looking for advice, since I know the most logical thing to do would be to flatly tell him to leave me alone, but again, I don't want to be a jerk. Really, I just wanted to get this off my chest. Dude needs to leave me alone!
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I gotta ask - did the teacher let him take the picture?
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She left it up to the model, who said no.
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Oh man... this guy is freaky. Even as a guy myself I find the guy weird from what you've said. Sadly I've run into creepy guys and wonder how girls would even WANT to look at them, let alone DATE them. Not only are they creepy looking but annoying as heck. It boggles my mind. Creepy is creepy, if the guy hasn't gotten the hint by now, he's an idiot and DESERVES to be told off.
Obviously I don't get along well with other guys where I'm from. They think I'M weird when I don't want to talk about girls, not that I don't like them (I do! XD) but I don't like how THEY talk about them. >_<
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You should tell him straight to leave you alone. That's the only way, unless you want to try something more drastic.
I'm not suggesting you kill him, but I am.
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You should tell him straight to leave you alone. That's the only way, unless you want to try something more drastic.
I'm not suggesting you kill him, but I am.
I agree, with the telling him to leave you alone, not killing him. XD;;
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You should tell him straight to leave you alone. That's the only way, unless you want to try something more drastic.
I'm not suggesting you kill him, but I am.
XD
Thing is, he hasn't done anything wrong. Yet.
If he follows me outside, though, all bets are off.
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XD
Thing is, he hasn't done anything wrong. Yet.
If he follows me outside, though, all bets are off.
Well, if he doesn't get the hint and persists it's best to just tell him in a polite way that he's disturbing you.
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Well, I guess the best way is to be honest about it. Just say something like "Well, it's nice that you want to talk, but I would like to talk about more things than just my life. I mean, to be honest, it's kinda creepy and it makes me feel uncomfortable."
Or you could tell him off the harsh way if he's thick headed and a jerk himself and such. Anyhow, good luck on your problem.
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do you know a men or boy that's OK around you
some one you have know for some time ?
if you do
here is what to do ask him to talk to the creepy dude
get him to say that he is your men and ask the creepy dude back off
as you getting upset with this creepy dude taking to you all the time
then let him see you with this OK boy or men you know may be it work and
the creepy dude back off
if it does not work tell the head teacher
this creepy dude is upsetting you he keeps eye=ing you up and down in a creepy way like he is undressing you if the head teacher does not do any thing that's a bad teacher at that school as if he was at my school he be kick out of that class or asked to back off and let you get on with your schooling
that's all i can think off sorry to say
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Reading through, I thought you were merely judging him on his teeth, but then a real argument started to form.
Go tell him to "practice drawing." He'll get the picture. (I smell future Hentai artist.)
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Good god he sounds like a total loser...
I almost feel bad for him.
I can imagine he looked on the internet for pickup lines... xD
Which brings me to my suggestion... Tell him to **** off. :3
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Tell him that you have a yeast infection. XD
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No, everybody, you're doing this the wrong way. I tend to get annoying people off my back with random and somewhat scary quotes.
http://randomhoohaas.flyingomelette.com/Cartoons/StreetFighter-CammyTellMeTrue/ULTIMATEPWNAGEFROMBISON.mp3
Repeating this will make it so he NEVER comes back, ever. It works like a charm for me.
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"Leave me alone. You're bothering me."
Copy/paste where needed.
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I can understand why you're hesitant to be nasty; some guys are so horrifically bad at socialising with women that they end up being creepy almost unintentionally, because it's the way that gets them closest. There's not much you can do but tell him he's being creepy though. If you say it jokily then he might get the message without taking too much offense.
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No, everybody, you're doing this the wrong way. I tend to get annoying people off my back with random and somewhat scary quotes.
http://randomhoohaas.flyingomelette.com/Cartoons/StreetFighter-CammyTellMeTrue/ULTIMATEPWNAGEFROMBISON.mp3
Repeating this will make it so he NEVER comes back, ever. It works like a charm for me.
Yes, yes, I killed your father. What is it with you women anyways? I killed MY father too and you don't hear me WHINING about it!
I can understand why you're hesitant to be nasty; some guys are so horrifically bad at socialising with women that they end up being creepy almost unintentionally, because it's the way that gets them closest. There's not much you can do but tell him he's being creepy though. If you say it jokily then he might get the message without taking too much offense.
Yeah, that could work.
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Go tell him to "practice drawing." He'll get the picture. (I smell future Hentai artist.)
That honestly, to me, sounds like the best action at the moment
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I think you all missed the "not looking for advice part.
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I think you all missed the "not looking for advice part.
Uh...apparently so
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Some of the advice has been amusing anyway though.
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Get someone to pretend to be your boyfriend.
Aways works on sitcons in interesting, exiting and ultimately humorous ways.
*gets some popcorn and goes back to watching "Friends"*
I like giving advice when people don't request it, btw.
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I think you all missed the "not looking for advice part.
If you post your unresolved problems on the internet, you're asking for advice. That's all there is to it. You're going to get advice, too. If you don't want it, leave the thread for dead and pretend it never happened.
And my post isn't really "advice" so much as it is a "solution". Once you do it, the problem dies.
Unless we're dealing with zombies. They're already dead, so dying isn't very effective.
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Get a really short haircut and wear glasses if you don't already, and maybe wear overalls.
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If you post your unresolved problems on the internet, you're asking for advice. That's all there is to it. You're going to get advice, too. If you don't want it, leave the thread for dead and pretend it never happened.
And my post isn't really "advice" so much as it is a "solution". Once you do it, the problem dies.
Unless we're dealing with zombies. They're already dead, so dying isn't very effective.
However, you could away Phoenix Down him in that case.
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However, you could away Phoenix Down him in that case.
Or, if that's not available, use a shotgun.
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Or, if that's not available, use a shotgun.
This is my BOOMSTICK! It's a 12-gauge double-barreled Remington, you can find it in the hunting good department. Remember: Shop Smart, shop S-Mart... YOU GOT THAT?!
Works every time.
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However, you could always Phoenix Down him in that case.
Or, if it always misses for some reason, you could Elixir him.
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If I actually did kill the dude, I bet you guys would feel pretty bad.
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If I actually did kill the dude, I bet you guys would feel pretty bad.
I don't promote killing. XD O_o;;
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If I actually did kill the dude, I bet you guys would feel pretty bad.
Feel? My dear, this is the internet! There is no such thing!
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If I actually did kill the dude, I bet you guys would feel pretty bad.
So I take it you're considering the possibility.
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If I actually did kill the dude, I bet you guys would feel pretty bad.
We only advocate that if he is, in fact, a zombie. In that case full use of the shotgun/phoenix down is encouaged.
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We only advocate that if he is, in fact, a zombie. In that case full use of the shotgun/phoenix down is encouaged.
Yeah! That! Zombies are already dead, therefor your not killing anything. ^_^ But only if he's an ichor dripping zombie!
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We had this creepy guy who always took pictures of girls and their buttcracks.
And like, standing on the walkway above and taking the photo down the girls' tops below.
He usually tried to pick up all these young girls in my art class, like "wanna go to this party my friend is having?" and "How about you come over to my place? I got some really good artwork there.", "Hey, wanna get a drink sometime?", "I love your dress, looks good on you. Really makes your look hawt" and anything starting with "I watched this anime yesterday and..-"
And he usually sat and watched all this anime/hentai thingies when he wasn't busy stalking girls.
I couldn't help myself and told the guy to leave the girls alone. I can't do anything about photos and such. But at least I can make him know that it isn't cool.
I and everyone else could tell that they were far from interested in him. He did left for some minute if the teacher told him to - but he came back.
My kind was not nerdy-creepy as yours. Just pervert-creepy.
And you need to let the pervert-creepy people to know that what they're doing isn't okay. because they all have this illusion that they are cool and manly when they do.
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Damn...You probably could have notified someone about the up skirt/down blouse voyeurism. I think they would have taken it seriously (I know at least my state would stick you on the sex offender registry for that crap).
And although this guy isn't nearly that bad, I wouldn't be creeped out if he were just nerdy. Hell, I'm a nerd. I love nerds. But I'd be afraid to drop a pencil and have to bend over to pick it up around this guy, so I guess that means I think he may be a bit of a perv.
Oh, I forgot to mention something that happened last week. I was going to get a drink of water while in another class and encountered him in the hall. Though I tried to make a casual wave suffice, he insisted on knowing what class I'm in, what I'm doing in there, etc. A few minutes later, the class was pulled upstairs into the dark room to get a tutorial on printmaking, and he followed me into the class and stayed in there for a few minutes. Mind you, he is definitely not a student in this class, and in fact he was supposed to be in some digital design class, but he felt it necessary to look in on what I was doing.
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Well, nothing can be done as long as he keeps the pictures to himself and keep them away from the public. (As in: not showing people what he got and then simply removing the SD card if someone asks to see what he got on his phone).
They can't prove anything without proof. We're just pretty much waiting for someone's boyfriend to find out and kick his ***.
And about following you into the dark: Keep a torch close if he tries to bite you.
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Valiere, I hope you do realize that not protesting this sort of thing at all is a form of saying you approve of it, right? I understand that you don't want to be a jerk and tell him off, but at some point you have to say something, else you're giving off some pretty strong signals that you have no problem with it at all.
Your behavior has me a bit confused. Women!
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Oh, come now. We women are socialized to be polite, and when the guy is -- to an outsider -- only making conversation, it's hard to snap at him. If he crosses the line, and I don't even know where that line is yet but I'll know when he crosses it, my first action will be to tell the teacher. She loves me and will probably do everything she can to make sure he never makes me uncomfortable again.
Now, you men....need to learn what nonverbal cues mean a woman doesn't want to talk to you. Lack of eye contact. Terse responses. Not smiling. Walking away. The fun thing about nonverbal language is, if interpreted properly, it means no one has to be "shot down" or feel embarrassingly rejected. It makes it easier for everyone.
You guys have it lucky. I doubt you've ever had to deal with a creepy girl.
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You would be amazed.
For me at least, the line would have been them following me into a class that he's not a part of. That's a fairly large society no-no. That would have also been a golden opportunity to say something to him along the lines of not following you, since you'd have the fact that he didn't belong in the class on your side, so it's barely even a rejection yet it gives you a chance to say something.
Part of me wonders if you are enjoying yourself in the situation. The little games of pretending to be polite... to what end? Do you really dislike this guy that much after all? Because, though you claim it's "easier for everyone" your way, it doesn't seem to be getting results, and I'm having a hard time believing that it's simpler than the truth.
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By accusing me of enjoying this, you have insulted me. That's pretty damn outrageous, Sai'Kar. No, I don't freaking want this guy to follow me around and strike up uncomfortable conversation with me. But is it really that hard to understand why I'm reluctant to tell him off? It creates uncomfortable tension with a classmate who I'll be forced to encounter at least once a week. If the following thing happens again, yeah, I'll bring it up. If he follows me outside, I'll definitely bring that up.
But the fact is, it's my right to decide when I've had enough. The fact that I simply want to be cautious enough in my assessment that in the off-chance that he is simply a socially awkward but well-meaning person, I don't end up offending him, does not justify your accusation that I enjoy any part of this.
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Oh, come now. We women are socialized to be polite, and when the guy is -- to an outsider -- only making conversation, it's hard to snap at him.
That's not entirely true. Happens a lot of times over here in Sweden at least. I've learned the hard way that women are far from how they used to be and behave. As in; ladies.
As for the part about the nonverbal cues... I can tell, but not everyone. And not every woman can either. Not to brag but I've seen a couple of them even on me. Even though I barely say anything in reply and keep staring into a computer screen they will keep talking. Trying to get my attention even though I'm clearly not interested.
So yeah, it's more of a "person to person" problem and not a "gender to gender".
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I'm not sure why you'd take that as an insult. I freely admit that none of your personal decisions in life are any of my business normally, but by creating this thread you've put it all out there on display, so here we are talking about it.
In any event, it was not my intention to offend, and I apologize.
Easier to say these things online than in person, eh?
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Aye, it's cool. I expected at least some friction in posting this anyway.
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But is it really that hard to understand why I'm reluctant to tell him off?
Yes. Quite frankly, yes it is hard to understand.
It would create awkwardness between you and him, but not as much as it is creating right now, and only to you.
Also him following you around was enough to tell at least your teacher.
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You guys have it lucky. I doubt you've ever had to deal with a creepy girl.
Jesus Christ, if only that were true! I'm like a creepy girl magnet! I mean, I'm far from an attractive young man myself, but apparently I'm just attractive enough to get the strange ones to try and form a rather uncomfortable relationship with me. Believe it or not, I've been through your dilemma more than a few times, and while you may want to spare your creepy follower's feelings, it's often best to let them know how uncomfortable they make you feel. If you don't, you end up with a more serious stalker (first-hand experience here) who somehow starts getting a hold of uncomfortably large amounts of personal, sometimes private information about you.
The best course of action is to let them down gently; "I'm sorry, but I'm really not interested in what you have to say right now." "I'm a little busy, mind if we cut this chat short?" "You're being a little creepy right now. I don't want you to feel awkward, but you're making me feel awkward." These are the best ways to go about hinting in a more verbal fashion that they're bothering you with their behavior or that you'd like to have them cease their contact. If they just don't get the hint, then you need to vocalize it more: "Please leave me alone, I don't feel like talking to you." I know it seems rude, but some people just don't get when they're going too far.
Having a penis doesn't make these things any easier. We're culturally molded to treat women with respect, to be polite to them, to not do anything that would make them unhappy. We're basically treading a minefield every time we have to talk to any women who we don't know personally enough. It's really hard to treat a person of the opposite gender the way you want to when you've been trained to treat them "the way you should", and this just makes things even more difficult when they're not on the same page of the Social Standards Handbook. Most of us here are men, and we have the men's perspective on this situation. Our advice (whether you want it or not) may not be perfect or 100% guaranteed to work, but at least we have a better idea of how your (for lack of a better term) aggressor's mind works.
-- This has been a rare, serious, potentially helpful post from the desk of Archem.
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-- This has been a rare, serious, potentially helpful post from the desk of Archem.
I'm astonished and agree.
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Now, you men....need to learn what nonverbal cues mean a woman doesn't want to talk to you. Lack of eye contact. Terse responses. Not smiling. Walking away. The fun thing about nonverbal language is, if interpreted properly, it means no one has to be "shot down" or feel embarrassingly rejected. It makes it easier for everyone.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......
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Hey hey, I've been in this situation before. I've had creepy girls follow ME around... also one time it was a guy, that was EXTRA creepy.
Also! I passed my communication courses so I understand nonverbal cues. :) Fact is, a lot of people (boys AND girls) don't.
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Jesus Christ, if only that were true! I'm like a creepy girl magnet! I mean, I'm far from an attractive young man myself, but apparently I'm just attractive enough to get the strange ones to try and form a rather uncomfortable relationship with me. Believe it or not, I've been through your dilemma more than a few times, and while you may want to spare your creepy follower's feelings, it's often best to let them know how uncomfortable they make you feel. If you don't, you end up with a more serious stalker (first-hand experience here) who somehow starts getting a hold of uncomfortably large amounts of personal, sometimes private information about you.
The best course of action is to let them down gently; "I'm sorry, but I'm really not interested in what you have to say right now." "I'm a little busy, mind if we cut this chat short?" "You're being a little creepy right now. I don't want you to feel awkward, but you're making me feel awkward." These are the best ways to go about hinting in a more verbal fashion that they're bothering you with their behavior or that you'd like to have them cease their contact. If they just don't get the hint, then you need to vocalize it more: "Please leave me alone, I don't feel like talking to you." I know it seems rude, but some people just don't get when they're going too far.
Having a penis doesn't make these things any easier. We're culturally molded to treat women with respect, to be polite to them, to not do anything that would make them unhappy. We're basically treading a minefield every time we have to talk to any women who we don't know personally enough. It's really hard to treat a person of the opposite gender the way you want to when you've been trained to treat them "the way you should", and this just makes things even more difficult when they're not on the same page of the Social Standards Handbook. Most of us here are men, and we have the men's perspective on this situation. Our advice (whether you want it or not) may not be perfect or 100% guaranteed to work, but at least we have a better idea of how your (for lack of a better term) aggressor's mind works.
-- This has been a rare, serious, potentially helpful post from the desk of Archem.
"I'm kind of busy right now" seems like a decent response actually. If he protests, I'll be more forceful, then let the teacher know.
And thank you for your perspective. It does help.
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I'm a bit surprised with Archem. That is pretty well put. And aye, just because we are guys doesn't mean we don't deal with similar social problems. I'm more of the quiet shelled up guy.
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I've had creepy girls follow ME around... also one time it was a guy, that was EXTRA creepy.
Oh yeah. I had an emo-guy who stalked me for a while with more... erhm. "Serious intentions". But it was easier to make him change his mind than making these girls.
I do have a girlfriend. They are aware. They just don't see how it matters. They somehow(for some odd reason beyond my understanding) believe that I would dump my girlfriend for them once they've been around me enough. That I, (for some reason) would start to like them more than her. And that's creepy.
I'm not sure anymore.
Nerdy-stalking creepy. Seeking social company and/or something more.
Pervert-stalking creepy. Seeking sexual company and/or something more.
Or obsessive-stalking creepy. Seeking relationship and/or a lifetime together with them(?).
Which one is the worst..?
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Oh yeah. I had an emo-guy who stalked me for a while with more... erhm. "Serious intentions". But it was easier to make him change his mind than making these girls.
I do have a girlfriend. They are aware. They just don't see how it matters. They somehow(for some odd reason beyond my understanding) believe that I would dump my girlfriend for them once they've been around me enough. That I, (for some reason) would start to like them more than her. And that's creepy.
I'm not sure anymore.
Nerdy-stalking creepy. Seeking social company and/or something more.
Pervert-stalking creepy. Seeking sexual company and/or something more.
Or obsessive-stalking creepy. Seeking relationship and/or a lifetime together with them(?).
Which one is the worst..?
#2, definitely #2.
I've had #2 stalking ONCE... GAH, creepiest by far. Nothing more creepy than desperation.
Lets see...
tops is pervert stalkingg,
next is obsessive stalking
and then nerdy stalking, which I find most tolerable.
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#2 of course.
And to try to elaborate on my point...Yes, I now see that guys definitely do deal with creepy girls. However, it's not quite the same. While you may feel threatened by a creepy girl, you probably aren't truly terrified because if it came down to it, you could probably physically overpower her. I may work out, but I doubt I could physically overpower a male that is larger than I am. Then there's also the difficulty of a woman trying to rape a man.
There may be cases where a girl is insane enough that you really do fear for your safety, but overall I believe creepy women are less of a threat than creepy men.
Thankfully, I've yet to feel truly afraid of a creepy guy.
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You are right, and that is probably why some of us respond with a bit of concern. Some less admitting than others. I'll admit it though. XD I hope he's just socially awkward.
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#2 of course.
And to try to elaborate on my point...Yes, I now see that guys definitely do deal with creepy girls. However, it's not quite the same. While you may feel threatened by a creepy girl, you probably aren't truly terrified because if it came down to it, you could probably physically overpower her. I may work out, but I doubt I could physically overpower a male that is larger than I am. Then there's also the difficulty of a woman trying to rape a man.
There may be cases where a girl is insane enough that you really do fear for your safety, but overall I believe creepy women are less of a threat than creepy men.
Thankfully, I've yet to feel truly afraid of a creepy guy.
First off, this is the reason you buy a knife and threaten to chop his balls off. I mean if I were a female in your position I would invite him to my house and show him my blade work. A weapon never fails you if you know how to use it and don't mind getting you're hand a little dirty, so to say. If you can't carry a knife to school take a small spray bottle and mix some Chili peppers and alcohol together and when you feel threatened shoot it in his face. That'll show him.
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Ehm, well she stated that she prefers not to get violent or threatening.
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Ehm, well she stated that she prefers not to get violent or threatening.
Huh? How do you do that? I was tought if they mess with you, hurt them bad.
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Huh? How do you do that? I was tought if they mess with you, hurt them bad.
It kinda depends on what they do exactly. I got into a lot of trouble with THAT philosophy (kicked out of school).
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First off, this is the reason you buy a knife and threaten to chop his balls off. I mean if I were a female in your position I would invite him to my house and show him my blade work. A weapon never fails you if you know how to use it and don't mind getting you're hand a little dirty, so to say. If you can't carry a knife to school take a small spray bottle and mix some Chili peppers and alcohol together and when you feel threatened shoot it in his face. That'll show him.
I thought you were going to make a good point here. But you didn't.
The thing about creepy girls that represents those larger males using violence: They know that they are weaker and therefore gets themselves a weapon. Creepy girls with Swiss army knives are probably way creepier than a strong male. People carrying weapons are probably more calm with the thought of using them rather than a guy with muscles using his strength.
But I know where you're going with that Valiere. Chances that a girl does carry a weapon is smaller than a guy having muscles enough to overpower you.
But of course, talking about creepy persons as in: Rape. You win that by miles.
I won't even try to defend males about that part. It's not worth it and it's a losing battle.
Girls do have stronger means to fear rape than guys. Finding gay (or just very desperate)guys are probably way,way,way smaller than finding a rapist(/desperate guy) who goes for girls.
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#2 of course.
And to try to elaborate on my point...Yes, I now see that guys definitely do deal with creepy girls. However, it's not quite the same. While you may feel threatened by a creepy girl, you probably aren't truly terrified because if it came down to it, you could probably physically overpower her. I may work out, but I doubt I could physically overpower a male that is larger than I am. Then there's also the difficulty of a woman trying to rape a man.
1 - Any woman can defeat any man, believe me. A good kick in the fork does wonders.
2 - Woman raping a man - Easier than it might seen. We just don't hear too much about it because most males tend to consent with the sex.
3 - If you're waiting until he turns dangerous, that's a stupid move on your part.
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1 - Any woman can defeat any man, believe me. A good kick in the fork does wonders.
2 - Woman raping a man - Easier than it might seen. We just don't hear too much about it because most males tend to consent with the sex.
3 - If you're waiting until he turns dangerous, that's a stupid move on your part.
Well I'm sure there are cues for #3 if he's reaching that point. And she seems to understand communication and behavior pretty well. At least I hope so.
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It kinda depends on what they do exactly. I got into a lot of trouble with THAT philosophy (kicked out of school).
I never said hurt them physically, but yeah I get where you're coming from. Most ****ing schools won't let kids fight it out and get it out of their systems and then they go and kill someone and everybody wonders why. We live in a messed up society.
I thought you were going to make a good point here. But you didn't.
The thing about creepy girls that represents those larger males using violence: They know that they are weaker and therefore gets themselves a weapon. Creepy girls with Swiss army knives are probably way creepier than a strong male. People carrying weapons are probably more calm with the thought of using them rather than a guy with muscles using his strength.
But I know where you're going with that Valiere. Chances that a girl does carry a weapon is smaller than a guy having muscles enough to overpower you.
But of course, talking about creepy persons as in: Rape. You win that by miles.
I won't even try to defend males about that part. It's not worth it and it's a losing battle.
Girls do have stronger means to fear rape than guys. Finding gay (or just very desperate)guys are probably way,way,way smaller than finding a rapist(/desperate guy) who goes for girls.
Sorry I got a little carried away. What I mean to say is to always have a means of defending your self. Or , if you have good friends who are built like armored cars have them step in an have a talk with the said person who's bothering you. I always traveled with a group and every one liked me a lot, so I had a one person to back me up.
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I'm a fair sized guy so I don't get messed with much anymore, but I used to be a shorter guy (woo! growth spurt).
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I'm a fair sized guy so I don't get messed with much anymore, but I used to be a shorter guy (woo! growth spurt).
I'm slightly fatter than I used to be in high school because my usual walking trail is blocked by a big tree and I love Italian foods and other such rich food, but I used to be a skinner dude with a barrel chest and arms that could jab and thrust without a blade.
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I'm slightly fatter than I used to be in high school because my usual walking trail is blocked by a big tree and I love Italian foods and other such rich food, but I used to be a skinner dude with a barrel chest and arms that could jab and thrust without a blade.
XD Mirror'd or Opposite'd.
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Ah, yes. The rape part.
That's awfully hard to reply to. Men just don't have a fear of being used for sex (we generally don't have objections to the idea), so it's hard for any man to say anything regarding the subject.
Perhaps I should think of it as me being under threat of rape from a gay man who is capable of subduing me. That's a terrifying thought, and it helps see your point of view better.
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I'm not the general man. Weird, I know. XD
I'm still a guy of course. Not the typical guy though. And I'd have it no other way. I love being crazy!
But seriously, even I find it a bit hard. But actually at the same time understand a bit more than the normal guy, not to sound like I'm bragging, I've just been really trying to see the other point of view for a while now. Long before this to make more convincing female characters that aren't just typical run-of-the-mill man fantasies. Though I tend to design the girls characters a bit... excessively in several cases (I can't help it, blame my gender!), I do get them to acquire a personality to balance that out. I've gotten to the point I'd hate to even consider doing anything bad with a fictional character, let alone see something badly done to a real person.
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I'm not the general man. Weird, I know. XD
I'm still a guy of course. Not the typical guy though. And I'd have it no other way. I love being crazy!
You know i'm alot like that. I tell pepole I like to be weird because it's fun. Small world.
Ah, yes. The rape part.
That's awfully hard to reply to. Men just don't have a fear of being used for sex (we generally don't have objections to the idea), so it's hard for any man to say anything regarding the subject.
Perhaps I should think of it as me being under threat of rape from a gay man who is capable of subduing me. That's a terrifying thought, and it helps see your point of view better.
That does put it into a different perspective. Also I don't like the idea of being used for sex even for a woman, it just shows that you're shallow and worthless if you'll have sex with someone even if they don't care about you.
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That does put it into a different perspective. Also I don't like the idea of being used for sex even for a woman, it just shows that you're shallow and worthless if you'll have sex with someone even if they don't care about you.
Fish, you have earned major respect points from me, and that's not sarcasm. ;D
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Fish, you have earned major respect points from me, and that's not sarcasm. ;D
:D
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So I'm an art student, and in one of my classes we draw nude models. There's this one dude in my class who...well, you know those plastic "hillbilly teeth" you get out of cheesy vending machines? He has that kind of overbite where his top set of teeth are permanently on display. And he will not stop talking to me. He constantly walks up to me with those ever-staring eyes and tries to make conversation, even though I do my best to give off uninterested vibes. I don't want to be a jerk, but this guy just won't take a hint.
I could maybe understand if he wanted some drawing advice, since he's the most craptacular artist I've ever seen (I'm fully convinced any one of you could out-draw this guy, who is ostensibly an art major), and I'm probably the most experienced student in the class at life drawing, but he never wants to talk about drawing, just about me and my life.
Oh, and today he asked to take a camera-phone picture of the model to take home and -- you know -- practice drawing with. And by "practice" I mean "jack" and by "drawing" I mean "off." The teacher, who seems to find him about as creepy as I do, was understandably hesitant. It didn't help that the model, while probably 40+, wasn't bad on the eyes and was pretty busty. On the way out of class, he told me, "You look tired," which is one word away from the universal pervert pick-up line "You look tense." I almost laughed but instead said, "I'm fine," and hurried out.
But I'm kinda droning on here. I'm not really looking for advice, since I know the most logical thing to do would be to flatly tell him to leave me alone, but again, I don't want to be a jerk. Really, I just wanted to get this off my chest. Dude needs to leave me alone!
Tell him that you're not interested in him or what he has to say.. He might take it badly at first but he will back off once he knows you don't like him. Some people need a dose of reality before they get it through their skulls to back off. I know you're a woman, but "Man" up as they say and tell this dude what's up. Also, if he was not looking at you like a piece of meat (most men do) he would of tried to talk to you about other stuff and not come off as such a sleaze ball. His physical appearance is not helping I'm sure, but if he could sport some charisma he would be a lot more attractive. Most people lack charisma when they have bad looks and it just makes them hideous.
Another thing to keep in mind is this guy is obviously thinking with his other head since there is the influence of a naked woman in the room. He is not taking it as art but more-so as a pornographic thing. His mind is twisted and he is probably extremely horny and a perv to boot.. Just tell this dude what's up and if he continues to act in a harassing manner report him.
I hope that helped.
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You know i'm alot like that. I tell pepole I like to be weird because it's fun. Small world.
That does put it into a different perspective. Also I don't like the idea of being used for sex even for a woman, it just shows that you're shallow and worthless if you'll have sex with someone even if they don't care about you.
It also shows that you're responding appropriately to a natural urge that's hard-wired into your brain.
But then there's "humanity".
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I love the ads for this thread.
"Learn to attract Mr. Right and prevent Mr. Wrong"
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It also shows that you're responding appropriately to a natural urge that's hard-wired into your brain.
But then there's "humanity".
I agree with Archem 10^69%.
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I love the ads for this thread.
"Learn to attract Mr. Right and prevent Mr. Wrong"
I'm getting gay dating ads
On on the current subject, I don't really have anything to contribute
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I agree with Archem 10^69%.
Lol 69. But that's only funny if you're a perverted guy.
Oh...
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And now the ads are just inverting everything.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/GrandyGuy/withdraw.jpg)
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You should pour ethanol on him and then strike a match in his direction. ALWAYS works :D
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You should pour ethanol on him and then strike a match in his direction. ALWAYS works :D
Another idea, no more advice from you. XD You pyro.
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Update. Like clockwork, he tried to talk to me again, and I responded with, "I'm kind of busy right now. Do you mind?" He walked off and then disappeared from class for about 20 minutes (I do hope he was crying in a corner) only to return to do more blasphemously bad drawing.
Gotta go back to class now. Hope that's the last I see of him, but if past experience is any indication, it won't be.
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Uh oh, might wanna watch your back now. You don't wanna end up as a lamp shade in this dude's mom's basement.
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Now, you men....need to learn what nonverbal cues mean a woman doesn't want to talk to you. Lack of eye contact. Terse responses. Not smiling. Walking away.
Oh... Oh GOD!
*cries uncontrollably into scarf*
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Update. Like clockwork, he tried to talk to me again, and I responded with, "I'm kind of busy right now. Do you mind?" He walked off and then disappeared from class for about 20 minutes (I do hope he was crying in a corner) only to return to do more blasphemously bad drawing.
Gotta go back to class now. Hope that's the last I see of him, but if past experience is any indication, it won't be.
... wait did you think he cryied just because you said you were occupied? After you describing him as someone who doesn't get hints at all? Maybe he believes that you really were just occupied at the moment.
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It's the first time I'd refused to speak to him, like, with a verbal hint instead of a nonverbal one. Some people are oblivious to stuff that isn't said.
I don't really think he was crying in a corner, but I said I hoped he was.
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I'm aware, but I assumed that you had assumed that he had assumed you didn't like him. Whereas, I think he might still persist in his quest after shrugging it off. Best of luck for this not to be the case.
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Next time he tries to make a move, shatter his jaw with your fist.
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A friend of mine had a similar problem about a year ago. I'll give you the same advice I had given them:
-If they are still bothering you, do not try to sound nice, or spare his feelings, as he would eventually get over it and try again. Say exactly as you feel, and be as blunt as possible, but try to avoid inappropriate swearing, only curse if absolutely necessary.
-If that doesn't work, maybe try talking to some sort of authority figure, like a teacher, if you are comfortable with it.
-And if he stalks you (happened to my friend when they had this problem), call the police, or something, this guy has problems.
Hope this helps, and good luck.
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Here's something that you might want to try.
When he goes to talk to you, say:
"**** you man. I got stuff to do. I do NOT like you. Why wont you leave me alone, you son of a bitch? Go cry in a corner."
That will let him know that you are not interested. :)
Also might prevoke a negative reaction, but it does get the job done. I'd know i'd back off if a girl said that to me. I'm already pretty shy around women, so if a girl did that i'd probly run for my life. Lol
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Try soiling yourself.
That always gets freaks to leave me alone.
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Try soiling yourself.
That always gets freaks to leave me alone.
That's just freaky man.
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Try soiling yourself.
That always gets freaks to leave me alone.
Like a toad?
Wait. What? Skeletons don't have kidneys or livers or *goes on and on*
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A friend of mine had a similar problem about a year ago. I'll give you the same advice I had given them:
-If they are still bothering you, do not try to sound nice, or spare his feelings, as he would eventually get over it and try again. Say exactly as you feel, and be as blunt as possible, but try to avoid inappropriate swearing, only curse if absolutely necessary.
-If that doesn't work, maybe try talking to some sort of authority figure, like a teacher, if you are comfortable with it.
-And if he stalks you (happened to my friend when they had this problem), call the police, or something, this guy has problems.
Hope this helps, and good luck.
The first one I've found to be important...If you're apologetic or offer up excuses, he'll try to find a loophole or a reason to continue talking. My plan is to keep saying, "I'm busy. Do you mind?" until he gives up. If he protests, I'll tell the teacher.
I do have a boyfriend I could mention, but he's long-distance, and one guy got angry about him previously because he didn't think long-distance relationships were legit. So it's not failproof. I could tell him I'm gay, which might work since I'm only at this school a semester and no one here knows me.
But those are excuses. The plain truth is, even if I were straight and single, I wouldn't go out with him if someone put a gun to my head. And I don't want to make him feel better by implying that's not the case.
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I could tell him I'm gay, which might work since I'm only at this school a semester and no one here knows me.
You're trying to drive a man away by saying you're a lesbian?
Are you nuts?
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That's just freaky man.
Uhm *Soils self*
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You're trying to drive a man away by saying you're a lesbian?
Are you nuts?
I'd be a real lesbian, as in, you don't get to watch.
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I'd be a real lesbian, as in, you don't get to watch.
That doesn't matter.
You'll create even worse(as in sexy-ish fetish) thoughts in his head. How will he be able to stay away if he keeps thinking about you with a woman?
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You guys never let me do anything fun.
Really though....yeah, too risky.
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You could just as well have said "I can't be with you, I'm a nudist."
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I can't be with you, I'm a nudist.
SAY IT'S NOT SO! I thought we had something special, Grandy. *sniff*
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Oh, shut up. I only let your hopes rise so I could crush them with my bare hands.
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Oh, shut up. I only let your hopes rise so I could crush them with my bare hands worked to elevate you, just enough to bring you down
WHY CANT WE NOT BE SOBER
I should listen to tool less
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Yes, you should, said the girl with the Tool sig.
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You guys never let me do anything fun.
Really though....yeah, too risky.
Tell him about your formally a guy. It's dumb, but i can tell you I'd leave you alone if i were him. Also Lesbians turn me off for some reason.
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Tell him about your formally a guy. It's dumb, but i can tell you I'd leave you alone if i were him. Also Lesbians turn me off for some reason.
.... :/
Can't think of anything witty to say here. You're just weird, I guess.
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.... :/
Can't think of anything witty to say here. You're just weird, I guess.
What's weird? O_o I'm the same way. I don't want to be secondhand gay! XD
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I'm a woman and even I like lesbians.
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That makes you gay.
Gay women make me hot.
Doesn't that make you secondhand gay? *looks at _JeT_'s list* Oh! Right! XD Sorry.
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I'm not gay, I just appreciate the smooth, artistic aspect of the female form.
Well, I may be a little gay, but only a little. Kinsey was right.
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I'm not gay, I just appreciate the smooth, artistic aspect of the female form.
Well, I may be a little gay, but only a little. Kinsey was right.
Should I just half cross you off the list then?
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I'm not gay, I just appreciate the smooth, artistic aspect of the female form.
Well, I may be a little gay, but only a little. Kinsey was right.
See? Now if the creepy dude finds this out, he won't let go of your leg!
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I'm not gay, I just appreciate the smooth, artistic aspect of the female form.
Well, I may be a little gay, but only a little. Kinsey was right.
Oh dear. Make sure that guy does not find these forums... :\
Should I just half cross you off the list then?
How does that work? XD
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Val, any progress with creepy dude?
How does that work? XD
It hurt my head to much to think about it, so I eliminated the list entirely... Now everyone is stuck in a state of being half gay.
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No progress, since my class with him only meets weekly.
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It hurt my head to much to think about it, so I eliminated the list entirely... Now everyone is stuck in a state of being half gay.
What!? Everyone!? This cannot be! UAAAAAAAGHHHHH!
No progress, since my class with him only meets weekly.
I hope you can work this out without incident, Val.
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I'm immune because I was never on the list.
Yay me. :3
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I'm immune because I was never on the list.
Yay me. :3
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You just keep thinking that...
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Lesbian? I never quite understood how that works. I mean, unless you just like, scissor or something...
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Lesbian? I never quite understood how that works. I mean, unless you just like, scissor or something...
Yeah, I don't understand either. Perhaps someone could invent a two-way strap-on?
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Yeah, I don't understand either. Perhaps someone could invent a two-way strap-on?
If you can think of it, chances are its been made. Anyway, i thinkl i have a rough idea of how it works, but i really dont want to debate the functions of strapons >_>
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Yeah, I don't understand either. Perhaps someone could invent a two-way strap-on?
Someone didn't get the reference.
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South Park... do I win? -_-
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South Park... do I win? -_-
Oh, crap, I forgot. XD
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You win some chocolate salty balls.