Someone's getting impatient with Fish's chapter.
The first one was Alex's plan to be part of a contest between every major RPGMaker website. Charas's entry was massive in scope and in initial reaction. Carmen lead it, I believe. She assembled a crack team of story-writers, spriters, and coders out of available people and they all worked together decently as a group. However, at some point, Carmen announced that the participation from the rest of Charas was not satisfactory and that the Community Contest team was officially going private. They took their work and their ideas and left Charas as a team to work on their game without being associated with Charas directly. To the best of my knowledge, at some point after the split the entire thign collapsed.
More details about that here: http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=6818&forumid=39&catid=9
The second one was a joint effort by Moose and Robotam to revive the spirit of the community game, as it was still a good idea. Much like before, a lot of people said they wanted to do it, and much like before, a lot of them dropped out quickly. It restarted like a year later with rougly the same disasterous results. They got a story done (that, quite frankly, didn't interest me at all to want to work on the game) and a few custom sprites, but little else before it collapsed again.
This is a good, but long, thread about that try: http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=8491&forumid=39&catid=9
Stop.Well we only have 3 story-people at the moment and I'm not sure there will be many others. If they start their parts now and then both decides to put it all together and edit them into context - that'll be great. I can't demand anything though. It's up to them how they want to work really. Your idea is good 'n great. But the writers need to agree. I can't speak for them.
For the story people, there should be a 'head' person. Everyone writes their ideas for the basic skeleton, and fills in parts and the head writer will put them together and edit them into the context of the story.
Also, we have to decide what type of battle system we want. Do we just want to use the DBS? Do a whole Custom battle? I have a finished ABS, and if someone like Rahl were to take a look at it, he could probably perfect it, and we could use that as a starting block.Could you convince Rahl to take a look at it? An ABS would be really great if only people can make stuff for it.
I'm not liking it so far...a lot of it's concepts are very cliche, such as the emperor getting assassinated and then tension arising because of the new emperor
However, as it is a skeleton, we could probably develop this a lot more and make it tremendously more interesting
Well, it's pretty obvious that there is tension when a general takes the power after a sudden death of the old leader?Yeah, I know...my writing style/taste is usually centered around surprises...I'm always far more interested in twists that make your brain explode than obvious things
The girl is obviously cursed and he must decide to leave her or deteriorate or something.That's too predictable
That's too predictable
I say the General is evil, and sent assassins into the other kingdoms so he can absorb them, or something
That's what I meant. That would be the cliche path. But anything else is a bit fantastic.You really need to fix your sarcasm, it's very inobvious
The actual villain was a sorcerer who had survived the genocide. He was the girl, who the main character rescues, father, and he is the bad guy, which causes a lot of strife, because the main char falls in love with the girl.
AH! I remember. The actual villain was a sorcerer who had survived the genocide. He was the girl's(who the main character rescues) father, and he is the bad guy, which causes a lot of strife, because the main char falls in love with the girl.
That was just bad typing on my part. I haven't slept yet, so I'm allowed to type stupidly.
And I do like twists.
Well we only have 3 story-people at the moment and I'm not sure there will be many others. If they start their parts now and then both decides to put it all together and edit them into context - that'll be great.
An abs really only needs to be made once. The maps are fine after that, it just requires placing the monsters.
I can try to ask Rahl to take a look at it. I'd like to have his shooting game in it if possible as well.
Allright.
Could the character making people start making the characters any time soon? I guess the charset people need some picture or description of some kind before they can start their work.
..are those bratz dolls? o.o
This sounds like an interesting idea didnt read the whole thread but any story ideas yet?
And those girls just look too emo... She should look more... wholesome... not like some slutty emo chick. Sorry.
Makes me wonder what the hell we let the kids play with...
Well, the older brats dolls were anatomically correct... meaning they had actual 'orifices' with pubic hair cut into landing strips...
I've Googled for about 10 minutes and have found no mention of this.I found something very extremely disturbing instead of it...I'm actually not sure if I can supply a link
There could be like a rune on his left arm, that spreads as the story progresses, hindering its movement, until it reaches his left eye, where he sees like a vision of the past or something.
As for the menu, is everyone cool with having the Ocarina of Time style menu? With Character Status, Quest Status, A world map, and an inventory.
Oh, as for overworld, do we want to use a Final Fantasy style world map, or go with the Zelda style and have no actual world map at all. I prefer Zelda style...
KM, you're going to do the poses too?
Stars above that story is terrible. It's like 1980s first RPGs style stuff. Evil empires taking over and sorcerers... is that REALLY the best we can do as a community? I want to join in, but I can't really take it seriously when it sounds like our game was written by a third grader.
Stars above that story is terrible. It's like 1980s first RPGs style stuff. Evil empires taking over and sorcerers... is that REALLY the best we can do as a community? I want to join in, but I can't really take it seriously when it sounds like our game was written by a third grader.Don't worry, I'm trying to help to fix some key problems within it
Alright well here is the cody for now....what?
...what?yes I am and sorry bad typing meant to say body.
Are you talking about the son?
Hey, Ult wrote up a story like on page 3. So, now what?
Hey, Ult wrote up a story like on page 3. So, now what?
Hey Corey, can you add a little red/blue? Have like a part of his uniform be red or blue and have the rune be the opposite colour.
That story was the story of the previous attempt at making a community game. Now, Fruckert took the idea and spun it his way, we'd like you to do the same. It doesn't have to be super detailed, just maybe some changes in it. Then, we'll make a combination of the 3 different stories, to make the ultimate story.
Red would stand out more, black would be hard to see as the outline is dark. Some magic powers would be good, but maybe not as much as a sorcerer. Maybe he gets his power from the nightmares, everytime he gets one he learns a new spell, a less effective verison of a spell the sorcerer has.
That's a really cool idea actually.Agreed
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Haha, what, is it based off her or something?
That looks great, the innocent/sexy thing is perfect there.
Didn't read more than the first post, so I don't know the status. But I noticed there's no music guy. So I'm applying if needed.
Remember to contact the other people working with the same part as you to make this even better. It might also help to know what needs to be done.
And Rahl - good to know that you could to decipher the code that Shady couldn't. Nice to have you on the team.
I'm glad you guys help out as much as you do.
I'm not limiting anyone(the list on the front page), I'm just putting your name on the most needed parts.
Remember to contact the other people working with the same part as you to make this even better. It might also help to know what needs to be done.
And Rahl - good to know that you could to decipher the code that Shady couldn't. Nice to have you on the team.
He could do music as well as Drace, because I don't want there to be too heavy a load on Drace.
Hell Angel could prolly make music better than any of those (even though I never heard their music). But he's got a life and all, so I donno if he is willing to :P
So what can I work on first, anyone who can point me in a direction? Too lazy to read 15 pages.
Well, you could try coming up with a hero theme, that could be repeated at important events with different instruments and different sections added.
Something kinda like... the main theme from LoTR where it changes throughout.
Yea Rahl, I appreciate that. I've been trying to figure out what the hell he did for a few years now. It's just too much for me.That would be fine by me. That's someting I love to do in the first place :3.
As for Felix-0, we've got the ABS mostly finished it looks like, but the other events will need to be done. Probably like a general coder's position type thing.
I put the story in the first post for people too lazy to search all the pages.
Did anyone finish a bio or something about the characters? I can post them there as well.
I really need some input on what the skill are gonna be I have everything else already in line, as well as a new health bar I made myself. We can keep it or toss it, it doesnt matter to me.
Alright I can do the girl. Is she gonna be fighting too? or no
EDIT:
I apologize for the weird organization in this post, Rahl kinda screwed me up.
No offense meant.
Read the story summary and I have some quick questions:
How long will this game probably be?
Seeing as a lot goes wrong with people in the story, do you want the main theme to be a musical piece of sadness?
We cant just work on parts of the game separatly guys unless its somthing to do with spriting, So dont start mapping, dont start eventing, stuff like that until the actually game comes to you, we really need to set up an order of whos gonna get the game and when or this will just turn out ot be a complete mess.
Well, the music and charsets team can do that, but I agree. As far as that goes, I have it right now, I'm adding the enemies attack and making sure the attacks all do damage. When I do that, I'll add a rough version of the CMS, with none of the pictures, it'll just have the items/spells you have acquired and something else. I'm not 100% sure what I can do, but I'll try adding a page that has mini-quests (like the skulltula collection in OOT) and an inventory. I'm going to try to have it so that you can have a choice of armors and weapons, like the first sword is weak, but the second is stronger, no disadvantage, but the third one will do more damage, but you also take more damage.
Same with the armor. One armor is no armor really, one adds defence, the third makes you invincible, but saps your magic quickly, so you can't wear it all the time.
If I can't program those in, when I add the CBS, I'll send it back to you Rahl, and you can set up the weapons like that.
*As for sprites we still need, we need the enemy sorcerer (it was too hard for me to make it look GOOD), the emperor, the main character's father, and the girl that HTML drew a few pages back
Although the 2 versions of I Don't Know don't even sound like the same song...
Well, quality over quantity right. What if we really only use a few mp3s as opposed to midis. The midi's take up less space, but they sound like crap, where mp3s are more real.
I can live with this idea. Important tracks (like the main theme; battle theme; character themes) could best be made in mp3s then, being able to throw more... emotions and feeling into it. They are important tracks, so they should at least have good quality.
With less important tracks (for certain areas; dungeons; towns; etc) we could then use midi files because they play a smaller role to the actual story. They don't need to have a strong sense of feeling but at least a sense of adding some background music.
The battle theme is of course an exception and same for the boss themes. These are used in battles, are the most listened and should overall be of good quality because you'll hear them the most.
BUT...
I still say we should go for all mp3. I can always try to keep the filesize lower by using a lower quality or by making it more loopable and thus being able to use less space.
Though, it won't be that big a problem. Unless we're going to use a 100 files, we won't near the 500 MB. And these are a 100 files of the highest quality tracks. I still say we should have the best quality as music will be a major mood decider.
Hm, how do you loop an mp3 without it going back to the beginning then? Or are we just going to have to be more creative? ;D
Make it so when you enter the map, a sound effect about 5 seconds big plays, its the songs beginning. Then, start the BGM, which is a song that loops (and the beginning starts on the end of the other song's ending)
Heh, I thought you were like 14.
[spoiler=Current Story]The gods once walked upon the earth, just like mortal man. They ate, they slept, and they died. The corpses of the gods still lay in their resting places to this day, tributes to what the world once was. Their bodys have spawned mountains, oceans, and forests.Hmm...I never noticed this
The Ostolian Empire is built above one of the tombs of the god, the god of justice, Ostol. The Emperor, an ambitious, paranoid man, conquered many other nations to protect his borders. Countries he could not conquer, he made alliances with, out of fear that more just Kingdoms would conquer his territory.
His General, a just man, had been a good friend of the Emperors for many years. His own daughter, his oldest child had been given to the Emperor as his wife, a sign of their friendship. The general believed that their marriage would give his wife a wealthy, sheltered life, but this was not so.
The queen's presence was enough to cure the emperor's loneliness, but not his paranoia. The emperor became possessive of his new queen, not letting her leave the castle, not even to vist her father, or her younger brother. She became depressed, and her health faltered.
With the queen's failing health, she was unable to deliver a child and died in the process. The emperor fell into despair, knowing that there was no one to continue his name. The general, knowing the real cause of the queen's death, was filled with tension towards the emperor.
After losing his queen, the emperor ended his ambitions of conquest. He became corrupt, paying his allied countries off to protect him, and his influence became smaller as the corruption became deep-set.
The emperor was known for his public speaking ability, and loved to give speeches to his people. As his influence weakened, people began plotting his downfall. During one of his speeches, a dart flew out from nowhere, hitting the emperor in the temple, and instantly killing him. The general and his son had attended the speech, and the son thought he saw the killer, but took no action to stop him, as it was a crime to speak during the emperor's speeches, and could have perhaps had more consequences than benefits.
The death of the emperor caused an uproar throughout the empire, and there was no heir to the throne. As such, the general was able to take the throne. Many people believed that the general himself had assassinated the emperor, as revenge for the death of his only daughter.
When the general became the new emperor, he swore to end all corruption, and allied himself with the just and good kingdoms to help him in his war.
The general's son is his favourite commanding officer. Despite being only 24, the young man has shown more intelligence on the field than many men twice his age do. He was sent into one of the 'evil' nations as a scouting party, to hunt for militia and weaknesses. But coming across the capital city, he finds it ambushed and ablaze. Deciding to explore the ruins, he and his party seperate. The general's son goes into what was the palace of the King, and he finds an unusual creature. He fights the beast off, but it manages to scratch his hand. The beast escapes, severely wounded.
After leaving the palace, he searches for the other men who came with him. He cannot find even a trace of them, and he leaves the city in despair. He sets out alone to return to the city of Ostol.
As the days pass, the wound does not heal properly, instead scarring into a strange shape, no longer just a scratch, but a strange rune. He does not understand what the rune means, and he ignores it, assuming it will heal on its own.
On his way he hears a woman screaming, and he goes to investigate. He sees a beautiful young woman being attacked by a group of bandits. After defeating them, he helps her to her feet. The woman is one of the last of the Mystics, a race of magic-users, who typically are peaceful. During the short months that the son had been gone, his father had begun to believe that magic is a corruption of nature and had ordered the death of any magic-user.
The girl begs the son not to return to the capital, but he does anyways, and his father sees the rune. He declares his own son corrupted and the son is exiled.
The night he is exiled he has a dream. He sees the young girl, and watches as he saves her, watching as if from another's eyes. Confused, he tells the young girl about his dream.
The rune has begun to grow, slowly moving onto his left arm, the dark, red symbols becoming more and more complex as the time goes on. And every time the rune grows, he has another dream, always from the viewpoint of someone he never met.
It was after several months that he had a dream of himself, in dark cave he had never visited before in his life. He was unsure what the dream entailed, but as he explored, he came across a young woman sitting on a slab of stone.
She looks at him, and he sees that her whole body is covered in the runes that are growing up his arm. The woman explains that she was the one who scratched his hand, as the rune slowly made her lose control of herself and she became a monster. She explained that he had set her free, and she had indeed died after their battle.
She tells him that he has the power to use magic, as he is inexplicably linked with a sorcerer, which is who's viewpoint he had been seeing in his dreams. Each time he tapped into the sorcerer's mind, he would absorb some of the sorcerer's power. Despite the fact that he had the ability, the general's son cannot learn spells the traditional way, instead, he must learn them from the gods themselves. The mages of the world use the language of the gods, which allows them to perform their magic, but as the words have been passed down, the power is weaker when pronounced incorrectly.
As he journeys around the world, finding the gods tombs and learning their powers, he hears word that his father has also discovered the gods, and is trying to ressurrect the god Ostol, the god of justice. He wishes to revive the god to rebuild the universe so that everything is just and perfect.
In the tomb of Ostol, the general discovers a hand print indentation in the wall, with the sons rune embedded inside it. He realizes that his son is the key to ressurrecting the god, and he summons his son to return to the kingdom of Ostol.
When the son hears this, he wants to go, but the girl is reluctant. She knows that the general murdered her people and is afraid that it is a trap. But the son believes his father is a good man, and he returns, but she does not follow. The son opens the door to the tomb of the God Ostol.
As the door opens, the general unsheathes his sword and attacks his son. The general and his son battle around the alter of Ostol, and when the son strikes the deciding blow, the general falls. His eyes, which had looked green for months returned to their original brown, and he seemed confused as to why his own son struck him down. As he breathes his last, the son hears clapping.
He turns around to see a tall man with long blonde hair clapping and walking towards him. He speaks to the general's son, and explains that he is the last living sorcerer, and he had taken control of the general. He explained that only those of true royal blood can revive the god, as they were descendants of the god himself, children of his half-mortal son. The general's own blood line reached back into that, while the former emperor's in fact, did not. Now, with the general's blood staining the alter, the sorcerer could begin the ritual that would revive Ostol, and bring balance again, destroying all the non magical humans.
It is then that the young woman rushes in, and seeing the sorcerer, she cries out to him. She calls the sorcerer father, and when he turns, sees that his daughter is still alive. He looks at the general's son, confused, as he had believed that the general's son was like his father and had murdered the woman, because she was a mage. He still continues to try to summon the god.
In an effort to stop her father, the girl cuts the shape of the general's son's rune into her stomach, surrendering her power to the young man, and dying there.
The hero is now free from the restraints of the rune, and the full power of the gods magic is unleashed. The general's son attacks the sorcerer, exchanging blades in a final clash to the death.
With the final blow, the sorcerer is defeated, realizing that his actions caused him to lose his daughter, the one thing in the world he truly loved. The young man looks onward knowing that he lost everything. He is now the emperor of a fallen empire.[/spoiler]
No, no spoiler needed, since the story is on the front page Archem.
Super fail, Arch. Super. Fail.
Btw, no contribution from you???
That's creepy. Kinda like that british 13 year old who looks 6 who had a daughter with his 14 year old girlfriend.
He is 14. AND HE HAS A DAUGHTER!!!
*DUN DUN DUUUUUUUN*
No no guys I'm 14, my daughter is 20.Wait, I think I read that wrong...
It's an adornment, hair clip sort of sayAh...all right
BTW, Purple, are we going to decide on having a leader? I think we should nominate 3 people for the leader role, and then have the community vote, by looking through this thread and seeing who should be, in their opinion.
We already have the name for the girl actually Saikar. Her name is Selina. It was pointed out on the same page as her picture was.
The sorcerer's name hasn't been made yet, but we're still working on the fine parts of the story line.
As for the ultimate weapon, it's so that the ABS works fine when we reach the point where it's needed. Rahl has been putting the abs in so that once it's done, it's pretty much just copy/pasting the events onto every map so that they work properly.
I figured someone else was doing cutscenes and stuff like that.That was Xtreme's job, apparently.
Do not let this die, compatriots.I agree.
Well, we're trudging along. We do need something as a morale booster.
Lol are one of these community games actually working now? Awesome job guys, I commend you for something we've tried so many times before. :bend: :frag:
That sounds awesome, mabey I'll make a cool Community Project Developer Sig.
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I made this:
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/hellroc/ccpbanner.png)
Gonna put it in my sig, you guys can if you want.
AFL, you can try and design up some songs. Try a title theme. We don't have a title, but come up with something mysterious and dark.Right. I think I can do that. =D
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab303/MissingName/selina.png)
EDIT: Whoops, forgot necklace.
Chose to do Selina, because the main character doesn't have color and I tend to work better when there is some color reference.
I'm keeping both eyebrows visible, because it's a pain to express emotion with only half a set.
I see some things I could improve, but let me know what y'all think.
Oh GOD, you guys are designing ultimate weapons before you name "the girl" and "the sorcerer"?I haven't found a single post by you.
The story just felt like something we've all seen before many times. There's no real sense of wanting to try anything new. Political intrigue and magic = bad, check. A lot of the characters do things that are foolish in the name of developing the plot, like how the General's son doesn't reveal the killer because you can't speak during a speech even when the emperor giving the speech is DEAD. And, despite how much text it takes up in the little exposition, it seems EXTREMELY short, like that all of it happens in a couple days. Most of the description is exposition and cutscene-esque confrontation. of It reads more like a movie script in which the authors only have about two hours to introduce us to the characters, make us like them, have bad things happen to them, and then have them win in the end. The script rushes from one event to the next. There's no sense of grand exploration or slow, subtle development. The whole game seems to be like an hour long.
No joke. They really look kick-***.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DJYAVOL3
Still waiting on the graphics. Come on guys. Who here can do graphical stuff?
If no one can, start harassing other members of the community for help.
Fish, I'd like to see a few more face sets done. Either HTML needs to finish up a few more, or we need new ones made of the other characters from the front page. Also, expressions. Since Selina's face is already completed I believe we should do the expressions first.
He seems to want to do something, so he could make up a nice ruined castle. Then we need to continue making maps. Read over the story at the beginning, and any ideas you come up with for maps, make them.
Fish, I'm kinda doing half picture half chipset. I'll use pictures as a panorama.
Is this part of the chain game? If HTML isn't doing them anymore, I can do the facsets...you will have to be patient though, since I have essays and then finals.
I've already designed the CBS but I can do other things as well. Also when everything else is done I can go through and fix some of the corupted battles.
Since Xtreme seems to have gone on to other things, it might be helpful to work on cutscenes or important events beyond the mappers' abilities. If you're willing to pick that up, we'll let you know where things need to happen.
http://www.charas-project.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25428.0;attach=28988
That's the only link I could find that was still active. I seem to recall seeing someone else posting a very nice faceset of Selina, but that seems to have disappeared... Hope this helps!
Fruck, Archie, did you.... want something? We could use more help, you know.Unfortunately, despite my best efforts, I am still technically computerless.
Perhaps a USB drive...? Question mark?I'll try to figure something out, but for now...sorry.
Any way you can make it work would be great. Just let us know when you can.
Fruck, Archie, did you.... want something? We could use more help, you know.Sorry, dawg, I seriously lack interest.
I'll try to figure something out, but for now...sorry.
Maybe next weekend (meaning after next week, not this upcoming weekend) when I can secure some cash to get a card, they're only $15.
Sorry, dawg, I seriously lack interest.
Like, very seriously. Completely uninterested.