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[Kinslayer]

Those terrorists and their cowardy make me sick... If they have the guts that they claim to have, they would kill the people who really are their enemies, like Bush or Blair, instead of killing innocents. I hope that this will be over soon, with no more bloodshed.

[Trevlac]

Now, now.  We can't disrespect terrorists on Charas. What if one of them saw this topic, he would be offended. *Glares at Kijuki*

[Midnight9795]

*kicks Trev* Kijuki's not even here, :p

[Kinslayer]

Originally posted by Trevlac
Now, now.  We can't disrespect terrorists on Charas. What if one of them saw this topic, he would be offended. *Glares at Kijuki*

We are not disrespecting the terrorists... We just think different than them, and if they can't accept that, they will ****ing BURN IN HELL!!!

 As for myself... I don't agree with Bush imperialism and his will of wanting to win money by invading other countries who happen to have a heck of a lot of oil, but bombing innocents because of that you are invaded is not a solution. If you are so strong and so much powerful, and have that net of spies around the world, stop messing with innocents. If you're gonna fight for Iraq, fight the soldiers in Iraq. The people who die at this attacks have nothing to do with the invasion towards Middle- Eastern countries, and if you want to defend your country, fight with the people you HAVE to fight, and quit killing innocents. That goes to the marines who kill civilians at Iraq everyday.

[Razor]

Originally posted by Kinslayer
We are not disrespecting the terrorists... We just think different than them, and if they can't accept that, they will ******* BURN IN HELL!!!

Did it ever occur to you that these guys are probably thinkin the same thing?

[Kinslayer]

Originally posted by Razor

quote:

Originally posted by Kinslayer We are not disrespecting the terrorists... We just think different than them, and if they can't accept that, they will ******* BURN IN HELL!!!

Did it ever occur to you that these guys are probably thinkin the same thing?

There is a great difference in what I think and what they think, AND THAT DIFFERENCE RELIES IN THAT I DON'T THINK THAT BOMBING PEOPLE AROUND IS A SUITABLE SOLUTION.

[Drace]

Basicly, the western world does the same thing to the terrorist countries. But we have made it "legal".

[Rune_of_Punishment]

Originally posted by Kinslayer
Those terrorists and their cowardy make me sick... If they have the guts that they claim to have, they would kill the people who really are their enemies, like Bush or Blair, instead of killing innocents. I hope that this will be over soon, with no more bloodshed.

The way to win is to take the fight out of the civilians. Do that, there's not much resistance or drive. People will turn their backs on the cause either in fear or in spite of the leaders because they "aren't doing anything to stop them." They know that in order to destroy the power of a nation, you have to take out the "weaker" first, so they cannot become stronger and resist.

This endless battle called "war" will never end. Blood will continue to be shed for centuries and eons. Fighting is the only way to maintain peace, whether it is the most moral or not. Negotiations do not work because there is always disagreement and the treaties will be broken if pushed just a little. Wars are the only way for peace, like it or not.

[Rune_of_Punishment]

Originally posted by Kinslayer

quote:

Originally posted by Trevlac Now, now.  We can't disrespect terrorists on Charas. What if one of them saw this topic, he would be offended. *Glares at Kijuki*

We are not disrespecting the terrorists... We just think different than them, and if they can't accept that, they will ******* BURN IN HELL!!!

 As for myself... I don't agree with Bush imperialism and his will of wanting to win money by invading other countries who happen to have a heck of a lot of oil, but bombing innocents because of that you are invaded is not a solution. If you are so strong and so much powerful, and have that net of spies around the world, stop messing with innocents. If you're gonna fight for Iraq, fight the soldiers in Iraq. The people who die at this attacks have nothing to do with the invasion towards Middle- Eastern countries, and if you want to defend your country, fight with the people you HAVE to fight, and quit killing innocents. That goes to the marines who kill civilians at Iraq everyday.

I'm sorry for the double post, but I have to say my piece.

You are very ignorant. "Don't kill civilians"? In war, civilians do not exist. Everyone is capable of killing, militant or not. Other countries killed America's civilians, barely anyone gave a rip about it. Why? Because America is everyone's savior and it doesn't matter if their people are killed. In war you cannot classify anyone as a civilian because you do not know who are civilians and who aren't. The tactics of the militants in Iraq are quite impressive, though we always cap them. The ydress up as civilians so we can't touch them. Any civilian can ru nout there and blow the hell out of our guys. And don't you ****ing DARE insult the US Marines. They protect Argentina's *** too. So shut up and don't be an ignorant fool.

[BlackIceAdept]

I don't even think we (The us) needs to even have armed forces the only thing we should have is border control and coast guard otherwise having milatry is redunit.

[Rune_of_Punishment]

So, you want us to go into isolation again, like we did in the 20's? I don't like the fact that we go in to help everyone when a problem doesn't really involve us, but you have to remember, we're a diverse culture and we're the biggest power in the world. If we don't help, we could be in some major trouble. Many people would turn on us, giving us more enemies to face off against. We need a military to enforce what Truman or Eisenhower wished for... containment. Keep the "evil" from spreading and keep it where it is. I don't like much about Truman or Eisenhower, but containment was a good plan.

[Tomi]

Originally posted by Kinslayer
As for myself... I don't agree with Bush imperialism and his will of wanting to win money by invading other countries who happen to have a heck of a lot of oil,

If Bush was going only for the money, you should be liking it.  You know how much foreign aid the U.S. gives to MANY other countries (including yours)?  Many times, this is the money that is keeping these countries alive (not nessisarilly yours, but some are).  Its not like the U.S. government is selfish when it comes to foreign affairs.  And also, the U.N., who seems to hate the U.S. right now, would not exist without the U.S.'s money.  If the U.S. pulled its funding now, the U.N. would collapse.  

[Kinslayer]

Originally posted by Rune_of_Punishment

quote:

Originally posted by Kinslayer quote: Originally posted by Trevlac Now, now.  We can't disrespect terrorists on Charas. What if one of them saw this topic, he would be offended. *Glares at Kijuki* We are not disrespecting the terrorists... We just think different than them, and if they can't accept that, they will ******* BURN IN HELL!!!  As for myself... I don't agree with Bush imperialism and his will of wanting to win money by invading other countries who happen to have a heck of a lot of oil, but bombing innocents because of that you are invaded is not a solution. If you are so strong and so much powerful, and have that net of spies around the world, stop messing with innocents. If you're gonna fight for Iraq, fight the soldiers in Iraq. The people who die at this attacks have nothing to do with the invasion towards Middle- Eastern countries, and if you want to defend your country, fight with the people you HAVE to fight, and quit killing innocents. That goes to the marines who kill civilians at Iraq everyday.

I'm sorry for the double post, but I have to say my piece.

You are very ignorant. "Don't kill civilians"? In war, civilians do not exist. Everyone is capable of killing, militant or not. Other countries killed America's civilians, barely anyone gave a rip about it. Why? Because America is everyone's savior and it doesn't matter if their people are killed. In war you cannot classify anyone as a civilian because you do not know who are civilians and who aren't. The tactics of the militants in Iraq are quite impressive, though we always cap them. The ydress up as civilians so we can't touch them. Any civilian can ru nout there and blow the hell out of our guys. And don't you ******* DARE insult the US Marines. They protect Argentina's *** too. So shut up and don't be an ignorant fool.

How dare you to call me an ignorant. If we are speaking with courtesy, and you are correct, then there would not be any need to insult me. I am a lot of stuff, but not an ignorant. I was speaking from a peaceful point of vew, I certainly despice warfare, because it drives mankind way back in time, and killing only brings more killing. I am NOT insulting US's marines, because of that I am speaking the truth, LIKE IT OR NOT. And rune... The US has done more historycal harm to my country, than helped it... DON'T YOU ####### REMEMBER THE 70'IES AND THE 60'IES, WHEN THE USA's GOVERNMENT SUPPORTED THE MILITAR DICTATURES IN MY COUNTRY, WHILE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DESSAPEARED, LEAVING MORE THAN 3000 FAMILIES WITHOUT THEIR RELATIVES, AND THE WHOLE COUNTRY LIVED IN FEAR.
It is, in fact true that some iraqi civiliansd can come out and blow thamselves up, but there are a lot who do not do that and, yet, die, why?, because of that fear that is overcoming everyone. Think twice before insulting someone who happens to live in a country that has to suffer economical trouble because of it's mandataries, and the "help" that came from the outsiders, like your president.


"If Bush was going only for the money, you should be liking it. You know how much foreign aid the U.S. gives to MANY other countries (including yours)? Many times, this is the money that is keeping these countries alive (not nessisarilly yours, but some are). Its not like the U.S. government is selfish when it comes to foreign affairs. And also, the U.N., who seems to hate the U.S. right now, would not exist without the U.S.'s money. If the U.S. pulled its funding now, the U.N. would collapse. "

Tomi... you don't live here, and we do not get any aid from the US. In fact... all that Bush does is to say "Oh, Argentina is doing fine with the economical plan", AN ECONOMYCAL PLAN THAT PRODUCES INFLATION AND STILL LEAVES HUNGRY PEOPLE AT THE INTERIOR PROVINCES, BUT GIVES A LOT TO THE OUTSIDE ENTERPRISES WHO ARE THE REAL WINNERS OF ALL THIS ####### MESS.And dude... the UN does certainly not hate the US... because of that it would ALREADY have acted. I want to remind you that the real winners of the world's big mess are the big enterprises, and Bush for suporting them.

Let us end this pointless discussion here, because of that we are waisting our time discussing about something that we will not work out, because we think different. I hope that you did not mean to call me an ignorant, rune, because of that you and me both know that we both are not ignorants, that is why we can discuss at this level without punching each other.
All that is clear is that everyone here repulses this violence and hopes that it can end soon, allright?

[Rune_of_Punishment]

I can't really remember the 70's and 60's when I was never alive then...

[Drace]

60's & 70's, Hippies and Disco. Vietnam war and if I'm correct at the early 60's the Korean war.