A good Computer

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by CheapAlert
The Sempron 2600 is very good and can be overclocked (especially with the BIOSTAR motherboard combo deal) to 2ghz which matches the speed of an Athlon64 3200.

Yeah, until you overclock the Athlon64 3200 and kill the Sempron 2600. And actually I think 2 ghz was the speed of the Athlon 64 3000. Anywayz, most new AMD computers come with Athlon 3400 or higher, or something like that, getting a Sempron 2600 wouldn't be a good idea for a new computer right now.

Celeron processors are the cheap version of pentium and only run 1/3 as fast or so even if both processors have the same ghz. I don't think sempron is as bad as a celeron, but I doubt a 2 ghz sempron will run as fast or as well as a 2 ghz athlon 64.

[CheapAlert]

It does. I've done comparisons with SiSoft Sandra and it's actually slightly faster.

btw, A64 3200 is 2ghz, AXP 3200 is 2.2ghz.

[Osmose]

Speaking of Athlon 64s, I really should get XP 64-bit or something and actually make use of the damn thing.

[Archem]

Hehe... I'm kinda lost in all this, but it's got me thinkin':  why don't I convince my mom to buy a new computer? Or at least parts. It can't be that hard, and I have a few friends why've built their own just in case it is. We could really use a new one, the lappy I' using sucks ***.

EDIT: Could anybody suggest any good parts for a computer? I really have no idea what all I need, nor what the differences are. It would be nice if anyone can list all the parts needed for a compy that can play newer games (Half-Life 2, Counter-Strike: Source, Battlefield 2, The Elder Scrolls IV: Ovlivion, F.E.A.R., etc.) well. Sorry if I'm just wasting your time, I was just curious, and asking here is better than starting a new topic, right? I'm just overwhelmed with it all, and I don't know where to start.

[Osmose]

Well getting parts for laptops suck, because they weren't built to be that upgradable. However, to figure out what you should get if you want to run newer games, you need to know what you have - AGP, PCI, PCIe, what type of cpu socket, etc...

[smokey_locs2002]

Upgrading a LapTop.. been there done that... I went from a roller ball mouse to a laser one. lol

[DragonBlaze]

Lol, I had a laptop once, the mobo broke on it and it would cost over $600 to replace it. Thats when I got my new one for $450.

I'm going to make a laptop with interchangable upgradable parts, I'll be the next bill gates!

[rush_fan]

If anyone wants to build a pc, get the pc gamer pc building bible (its on magazine racks)

It was sent from god- everything you need to know is in there!

[Archem]

Well, actually I wasn't planning on upgrading my lappy (it's evil, I swear! I have proof! It's watching me right now!), I was kinda hoping someone could list the parts needed to build one from scratch with some recommended pieces. If anything, it'll give me something to do. Once again, sorry if it's too much trouble.

[smokey_locs2002]

I hate lap tops. I have a really really nice one that will not Run EQ and my friend wanted me play so she could give me all her stuff. She's the richest person on this one server and the most hated person.  

A petition went around on the server to ban her and it passed.. soo I tired to play EQ on my nice evil dell and it gave me some error.

I googled it and come to find out most lab tops have this problem and the only way to fix it is to change the card..Come to find out I can change the graphics card but it's risky.

So I gave up... I've seen only one custom laptop and my friend made it.. The keyboard detaches from the monitor and the screen had a stand on the back that folded out. The thing was ugly and not wireless.

[Archem]

But was it "Truly Evil"? Mine is.

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by Archem2
Well, actually I wasn't planning on upgrading my lappy (it's evil, I swear! I have proof! It's watching me right now!), I was kinda hoping someone could list the parts needed to build one from scratch with some recommended pieces. If anything, it'll give me something to do. Once again, sorry if it's too much trouble.

- CPU/Processor (I recomend AMD Athlon 64 anything 3000+ or higher)
- Motherboard (needs to be the same socket and compatable with the CPU brand name, i have no real suggestions here).
- RAM/Memory (Brand really doesn't matter, I recomend getting at least 1 GB or RAM (two 512 RAM sticks with DDR 400 (PC 3200))
-Hard Drive (I recommend a serial ATA interface, how big it is is up to how much you plan to put on your computer.
- CD/DVD Drive (I recomend a DVD dual layer burner)
- Case (doesn't really matter, just if you have a micro sized motherboard, get a case that holds it and visa versa. Be sure it comes with a decent power supply and cooling system)

Thats all you NEED to build a computer, but theres other stuff you could get too.

- GFX card (its all your own preferance, if you plan on playing any high end games, I recomend getting one. I prefer the Radeon x800, other people will suggest Nvidia or Gforce gfx cards. Whatever you do, I suggest 256 mbs of memory)
- Sound Card (Don't bother getting one unless you have really good surround sound speakers, integrated sound works good for pretty much everything)
- Modem (if you have dial up you'll need one)
- TV Tuner (I got one of these, its pretty cool if you want to use your computer as a TV)


Accesories

- Keyboard
- Mouse
- Speakers
- Monitor (I got a 19 inch lcd monitor and I LOVE it. Its made by AvidAV and it cost $250, which is pretty good for a 19" lcd monitor. If you plan on getting an lcd monitor, make sure you don't get anything with a high response time such as 24 ms. If the response time is high, you'll be seeing 'shadowing' on your monitor. I recomend getting something with a 12 ms resonse time or less. If you do plan on getting an lcd monitor, look at local stores first, if you buy one off the internet, it'll probably be cheaper, but you run the risk of getting 'dead pixals' which are black dots on the monitor, they don't relaly bother anything, but they sometimes are annoying. And you can't return a monitor for having 8 or less dead pixals.)

[Osmose]

Originally posted by DragonBlaze
- Monitor (I got a 19 inch lcd monitor and I LOVE it. Its made by AvidAV and it cost $250, which is pretty good for a 19" lcd monitor.

I got my 19" LCD for $200.

But yeah, he's looking into building a laptop, and that's... a bit more complicated, if even possible. It'd require quite a bit of handiwork, at least.

[DragonBlaze]

Lol, I guess I didn't catch that part :p

But yeah, DON'T build a laptop. Buying one will be cheaper. Besides, for a laptop, you need to get a case and a motherboard from a specific company and even then they have to be from the same model type. The hard drive basically has to be the same way, same with the battery, keyboard, and mouse. The ONLY thing you'd really be able to customize is MAYBE the CPU and RAM. So its not worth building your own.

[Archem]

Sorry, my bad. I guess I could have worded that better...  No, it's good what you suggested, I wouldn't bother with building a lappy, they're too unupgradable. I know that much at least. Sorry for causing a momentary miscomprehension. <---- long word