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Offline Kijuki_Magazaki

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« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2006, 05:32:29 PM »
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Everyone loves FF


OMG FALS STATMNT

I agree on waht sonic says. some ppl who do not like the series or do not know about it think of all of them as being one sequel right after another.

However squareenix did not want to spend more money trademarking whole titles than just numbered titles. or whatever the reason was.

THere ARE some connections. Some of these which I am not willing to talk about cause I am generally should be a haater of the whole FF realm 8D though i did "like" ff8.

I always gived it they were different dimensions and time frames, with all the same crap of summons and monsters.
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« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2006, 06:07:36 PM »
FF9 included a lot of hidden references, not to connect the games in any way, but just for fanbase value as it was the last FF for Ps1. I mean, the story you compile for Ramuh is about your deeds in FF2 (getting the Goddess Bell from the Adamantoise), and you'd then have to argue that FF2 used the same world, which it clearly didn't.

I think re-using the Guardians and Garland was merely for fan value, just like the FF7 Rufus's Parade tune was used in the crashed Theatre Ship in the Evil Forest. Zidane referring to Cloud's Buster Sword is just another of those references I feel.

Many Final Fantasies use similar ideas (World of Espers in FF6, World of Summons in FF4 and Farplane in FF10), but this does not necessarily point to any direct connection between the games.

So yeah, to summarise, I think the references are just included for fun rather than to link the two (or more) games.

And yes, I've played every single Final Fantasy and beaten everything in all of them besides the NES FF3 (and that's because I can't find it anywhere :()
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« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2006, 07:06:35 PM »
 Dunno. But hey, I said it was just a theory.

 And "Gaia" is also only another name for 'Earth'.

 Now, something just occured to me, what about reincarnations? It has been said that many FF characters have the same name, it'd be possible the they're the same person who died and were reborn? Like, all the Cids?
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« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2006, 07:15:23 PM »
Well, reincarnations could be possible. All the cids pretty much have something to do with airships and are geniouses. The problem with this is that parents are the ones who name people, so if a person is a reincarnation of cid, its highly unlikely that they'll still have the cid name. I think its just another element they put in every FF game.

Kinda like Ryu from Breath of Fire, looks the same in every game, can transform into a dragon in every game, falls in love with nina in every game, but he's actually a differant person in every game. But without ryu, the game wouldn't be a breath of fire game.
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« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2006, 07:20:23 PM »
 The first BoF didn't have Nina.

 That aside, reality was never a part of those games, and having the same name as your past life is a big cliché, so yes, it could happen.
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« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2006, 07:24:22 PM »
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The first BoF didn't have Nina.


Uh, yeah, actually it did.
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« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2006, 07:41:14 PM »
Apex is right, it did.
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« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2006, 07:44:22 PM »
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The first BoF didn't have Nina.

 That aside, reality was never a part of those games, and having the same name as your past life is a big cliché, so yes, it could happen.


Well considering none of the cids really have memories of the other cids, and a lot of them have completely differant personalities (thinks of cid in FF7 compared to cid in FF9), they're pretty crappy reincarnations. But I guess if they have the same name, and are good with airships, they MUST be reincarnations of eachother...

Cid is just another element from Final Fantasy just like chocobos, the crystals, moogles, etc.
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« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2006, 02:18:21 PM »
Don't forget Biggs and Wedge.. (I guess Biggs is sometimes Vicks.)

Oh and just about 70% of the weapons are reused...

Masumune
Ragnarok
Ultima Weapon (Atma.)
And so on...
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« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2006, 08:07:53 PM »
Or you could just say FF9 was not canon at all.

Or perhaps Zidane knew a spikey haired man called Jeremy Robinson who happened to use a sword similiar to that of Cloud's?
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« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2006, 08:15:02 PM »
Well considering FF9 and FF7 were in two differant time periods, its kinda doubtful that Zidane knew Cloud. And Cloud couldn't go through a time mechine like he did in FFT because there wasn't any such technology in FF9.
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« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2006, 08:52:13 PM »
 We never know how Cloud got back home from FFT, then he could very well have ended there by accident at some point, bringing the time machine with him.
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« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2006, 08:59:42 PM »
I like to think that after advent children, cloud got stuck in ivalice and never returned. Meanwhile, sephy comes back and easily destoys the planet.
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« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2006, 12:26:46 AM »
^ Owned.

How about this? All of the FF's are different planets, not really connected with each other (excluding Compilation of FF7, FFX/2, and the games on Ivalice, of course), but they do have a common thread - a race of humanoids from some unspecified source (perhaps another of the FF worlds) has colonized them all and passed down parts of their cultures and such. Or, perhaps the colonists used crystals (or, in the case of Chrono, Lavos) to give planets the capacity for life, then colonized them and passed down their cultures to the descendants.
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« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2006, 02:23:17 AM »
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^ Owned.

How about this? All of the FF's are different planets, not really connected with each other (excluding Compilation of FF7, FFX/2, and the games on Ivalice, of course), but they do have a common thread - a race of humanoids from some unspecified source (perhaps another of the FF worlds) has colonized them all and passed down parts of their cultures and such. Or, perhaps the colonists used crystals (or, in the case of Chrono, Lavos) to give planets the capacity for life, then colonized them and passed down their cultures to the descendants.


I can agree with that.
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