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Offline Cosmos

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« on: April 13, 2007, 08:07:36 PM »
cd are you looking forward too? Me.. personally, I can't wait for maroon 5 and Linkin park, I'm in love with their new songs "makes me wonder" & "What I've done." The videos are decent too.... but go.
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2007, 08:18:24 PM »
Well, before I answer this, I don't care what ANYBODY SAYS....
they aren't artists, they are MUSICIANS

Artists Paint pictures, and sculp things.

Actors, Musicians, Performers ARE NOT ARTISTS. They're actors, musicians and performers.


But If you want to know what Musicians work Im anticipating the most...

Im big on Clutch. And their new Album, full of MUSIC, that an ARTIST DREW PICTURES FOR INSIDE OF THE JACKET, came out last tueday.

Also, I crapped my pants waiting for blood mountain by MASTODON.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2007, 08:34:41 PM »
LOL the reason why I called them artists is because like people who draw, write, or build.. they create. And I consider someone who creates to be an artist. So nyah! :p
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2007, 10:53:45 PM »
Yeah....If you create MUSIC youre a MUSICIAN. If you Create ART, You are an ARTIST. If you create a HOUSE you are a CARPENTER.

An accountant creates finacial records....dosent make him an Artist, does it?

Sorry...I prolly sound angry...Im really not. Ive just had this discussion alot....And being as Ive literally starved to accomplish myself as an ARTIST it bugs me when people throw that term around.

If you are even going to insult real artists by calling musicians artists, at least have the decency to call them "Recording artists"....but thats still bullcrap if you ask me.
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2007, 11:22:16 PM »
I agree with gemini.

Uh, I'm really not aware of any new music from and musicians I like that happens to be coming out any time soon. But if the rumor proves to be true, then you know I'll be waiting for the new Grand Funk Railroad album. Or, rather, the new Grand Funk... I prefer GFR as a name. The word "railroad" is made of Phwyn Jelly.
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2007, 11:27:05 PM »
I also agree with Gemini, as an artist myself (well, art student) it's annoying how people in dance, drama, and music are considered artists, along with the people in art.  Like, come on, what did they do to deserve the title that artist deserve?

 
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LOL the reason why I called them artists is because like people who draw, write, or build.. they create.

Create?  Most people create fecal matter, does this make them artists?
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2007, 11:34:35 PM »
Yes *that was me being sarcastic  :p *  I'm not sure..
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2007, 11:37:49 PM »
Yeah, And if I draw a Picture of a guitar does that make me a musician?
Sorry for the MAD CRAZY PWN'ING mid.

Seriously, GFR? New? Wow....neat

New 3 Inches of blood is soon. Im stoked for that.

New Dr Octagon....For the hippity hoppers out there





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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2007, 11:38:00 PM »
I'm gonna have to agree with Midnight. To me, any profession or skill that is not created directly for the service of another is considered an art. Drawing a picture, designing a building (in certain cases), and writing a song are condidered art.

Even with cooking, if your primary goal is not to satisfy the hunger of whom you are serving, then it is considered art.

Hell, I even condsider video game designers who aren't primarily concerned with selling their game as artists. The service concept comes from the making of money.

I do not consider Graphic Art as art. I do not consider a well drawn picture as art. To me, gemini sounds more like a drawer. You draw pictures.

As for albums, hip-hop has been going very slow lately...
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2007, 11:43:30 PM »
*huggles* support!  :happy:

Yeah, I don't really listen to hip hop anymore.. after 50 cent came in it just died... My brother's a hardcore lil' wayne fan tho.
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2007, 11:54:36 PM »
I'm into the rap.
Well, the old skool variety. That's when it actually took effort. I still listen to Sugar Hill Gang, some Run-DMC, Beastie Boys ( ^_^ ), and the like.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2007, 11:57:29 PM »
 
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You draw pictures.


True true....But once a year I exibit my paintings too.


 I paint them for service of myself...Because I sell them and Make Money.




Anyhow, For the sake of off topic debate....


A CHEF creates Culinary wonders.

An ARCHITECHT designs buildings. Asthetic, or otherwise. Hence the terms like "Art Deco" applied to architecture and interior design...because some buildings are designed for functionality...And some for asthetic. Allthough It may be "artistic" in nature, They are not really an ARTIST perse.

In support of your argument, If I draw a logo for my friends business, it is not "art". No. You are correct.

But when I paint a Picture it is art.


But also, in the spirit of self-criticism, I have not painted a picture in over a year.

But in Self defense....I have taken the right classes...Studied the history... I paint neo-impressionist. I just dont post the stuff online. Its hard to scan a Five foot by three foot piece of wood with streched canvass.



Anyhow, Yeah. They would at best be a "recording artist" or "performing" artist

But don't bastardize the word. People like Van gough and Salvador Dhali went insane for the sake of being an "Artist", and calling  say...  
Audioslave or L'il John an artist is an insult to those dudes
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2007, 12:12:10 AM »
Word.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2007, 12:15:31 AM »
 Originally posted by Archem2
 
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I'm into the rap.
Well, the old skool variety. That's when it actually took effort. I still listen to Sugar Hill Gang, some Run-DMC, Beastie Boys ( ^_^ ), and the like.


You earn a smile.

For the most part I agree with gemini.

 Originally posted by gemini
 
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But when I paint a Picture it is art.


This is the part I have a problem with. If you produce an image, you are not the sole definition of an artist. If you draw a character, or a place, or an event than it isn't art. If the image is an expression of self or your enviornment, than it is art.

 
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But don't bastardize the word. People like Van gough and Salvador Dhali went insane for the sake of being an "Artist", and calling say... Audioslave or L'il John an artist is an insult to those dudes


This I completely agree with.
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2007, 12:19:06 AM »
The word 'artist' is merely a term. Simply because it's associated with Michelangelo does not mean you have to design a new Sistine Chapel to be considered one. A person can be a good artist or a bad artist, but if he or she spills grape juice on a canvas to make art, that person's an artist.

The same goes for arguing if rap or hip-hop qualifies as music. Music can be a bass drum pumping at 1 beat per minute.

You can say a particular brand of beer is crap, but it's still beer.
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