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Offline Uberpwn_w00t

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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2008, 07:37:11 PM »
Yeah, learn your planetary history, gosh.
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2008, 08:58:33 PM »
Quote from: Red Fox on July 03, 2008, 06:05:48 PM
Let's see the universe is infinity big meaning theres infinity many stars and planet, meaning theres an inifnity big chance theres life on one of the infinity many planets.

Actually, theyre saying that the universe is finite now.
Its expanding at a seemingly infinite rate however.
This does not mean that the **** is infinite though....sorry dude

read up on the whole donut theory, and verious alternatives to string theory as well.

Personally, I dont think aliens have ever or will ever visit. I do however believe in time travel, and research teams from way the eff down the road being easily mistaken for grey/reptilian/aliens.

Im almost positive there is life out there on other planets, but im also almost positive that 99.999 percent of it is not what we would call intellligient.
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2008, 12:29:27 AM »
Quote from: gemini on July 07, 2008, 08:58:33 PM
Actually, theyre saying that the universe is finite now.
Its expanding at a seemingly infinite rate however.
This does not mean that the **** is infinite though....sorry dude
I was just going to say something like that. Since by the whole big bang theory everything was located in one area before exploding, and everyone knows you can't fit an infinite amount of anything in one space, it doesn't work.

Quote from: gemini on July 07, 2008, 08:58:33 PM
Personally, I dont think aliens have ever or will ever visit. I do however believe in time travel, and research teams from way the eff down the road being easily mistaken for grey/reptilian/aliens.
Which theories do you stand by? The "create a whole new time-line" or the Novikov self-consistency principle or something else? What makes more sense, Back to the Future or the Terminator series?

Quote from: gemini on July 07, 2008, 08:58:33 PM
Im almost positive there is life out there on other planets, but im also almost positive that 99.999 percent of it is not what we would call intellligient.
And this is one of those things I've been saying all along.
There MAY BE life out there, but if there is chances are it's little more than a singlecelled organism. It'd be like algae on a rock or something.
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2008, 12:45:36 AM »
You know what would be cool? If the Big Bang theory was about the universe just expanding forever.
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2008, 01:34:42 AM »
Quote from: Grandy on July 07, 2008, 07:11:40 PM
Didn't it explode?

I find your lack Star Wars fanaticsism disturbing.

Quote from: gemini on July 07, 2008, 08:58:33 PM
Actually, theyre saying that the universe is finite now.
Its expanding at a seemingly infinite rate however.
This does not mean that the **** is infinite though....sorry dude

Quote from: gemini on July 07, 2008, 08:58:33 PM
I read up on the whole donut theory, and verious alternatives to string theory as well.





I watched a program on string theory,it seemed pretty sound.Whats Dounut theory?


« Last Edit: July 08, 2008, 01:38:07 AM by Fisherson »
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2008, 03:35:04 PM »
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You ARE aware that anitimatter is not yet proven to exist, nor do we know the qualities of it, right?
Youre just spouting out science fiction.
Its by NO MEANS a fact.

I was under the impression they had found small traces of Anti-Matter? I can't remember where... oh wait, in the center of the galaxy. Hm... but that in itself was just a theory.

I haven't researched much on the universe to be honest, but I watched almost every episode of "The Universe" on the History channel. Granted everything they discussed was either theoretical or some far blown hypothesis that would get good ratings, it was still very interesting and not far from credible if you consider most everything we know about the universe is theoretical.

They had an episode on time travel as well actually and presented some very interesting ideas. But with their theory, time travel would only be possible as far back as when the time machine was created and could result in creating alternative universes or other bad side effects.
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2008, 04:07:48 PM »
Quote from: gemini on July 07, 2008, 08:58:33 PM
Actually, theyre saying that the universe is finite now.
Its expanding at a seemingly infinite rate however.
This does not mean that the **** is infinite though....sorry dude

My understanding is that the expansion is gradually getting slower, shown by the red shift, which means it must have a finite size, or very close to one. It's going to keep getting bigger, but not go on forever.

Quote from: Fisherson on July 03, 2008, 02:09:07 AM
Well,no,we have a form of stasis.We just don't have good reviving process.

Cryogenics =/= stasis. Besides, cryogenics requires constant power, and we have no everlasting energy source, or at least nothing that would last for 45 light years of travel.

Quote from: drenrin2120 on July 08, 2008, 03:35:04 PM
I was under the impression they had found small traces of Anti-Matter? I can't remember where... oh wait, in the center of the galaxy. Hm... but that in itself was just a theory.

I am intrigued to see how anything can be done with antimatter. We can theorise about it, but we can't exactly waltz up and take a sample to examine, because somehow or another it'll just annihilate itself.
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2008, 06:39:14 PM »
Quote from: gemini on July 07, 2008, 08:58:33 PM
Im almost positive there is life out there on other planets, but im also almost positive that 99.999 percent of it is not what we would call intellligient.

I donīt get it. I just donīt get it. Why does everyone have to be so damn pesimistic? Do you have any reason to doubt the intelligence of alien lifeforms? Is it just because youīre jealous? Really, I would like to know, what theory do you stand by when you say that all alien life isnīt intellegent?
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2008, 07:24:14 PM »
Quote from: Uberpwn_w00t on July 08, 2008, 06:39:14 PM
I donīt get it. I just donīt get it. Why does everyone have to be so damn pesimistic? Do you have any reason to doubt the intelligence of alien lifeforms? Is it just because youīre jealous? Really, I would like to know, what theory do you stand by when you say that all alien life isnīt intellegent?

Life on this planet has been massively fortunate; Earth has all the resources and conditions that make the development of life easy. There's oxygen, liquid water, stuff to eat, and along with evolution, Earth life hasn't really had a "struggle". This has happened almost entirely by coincidence. Life is at a massive advantage. On other planets, by coincidence, it's very unlikely that the conditions will be so perfect. There'd be some kind of compromise of conditions; good climate, but lack of resources, usable atmosphere but massive pressure. Any life developing there would have to struggle, and so would be at a massive disadvantage. If there was a difficult climate, most lifeforms would struggle to develop beyond one cell, because they wouldn't be able to support themselves. We've only come this far because our planet has been relatively nice to us (We reward it by sucking it dry and then burning it).

There may well be intelligent life somewhere, but it'll be so far away there will never be contact between them and us. They probably have better things to do anyway.
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2008, 07:56:08 PM »
Quote from: Dragonium on July 08, 2008, 07:24:14 PM
They probably have better things to do anyway.

Quoted for excellence.

Also, now I see where you are coming from. All I needed to hear was a reason.
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2008, 11:17:36 PM »
Stu wins, yeah.

Besides, didn't I hear somewhere that before life could develop enough to travel as far as our planet they'd get wiped out by nasty rays from black holes? Or was that another dream?
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2008, 11:20:22 PM »
The answer to that, is

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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2008, 03:11:36 AM »
Lol this topic sure is pouplular.Personaly i've thought
about it and maybe it wouldn't be so great to meet a alien
life form,they might be hostile or worse.
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2008, 11:28:00 AM »
You're probably right, fish. One of the only things more unlikely than our existance is the fact that we've somehow become ingrained with a sense of morality. If they wanted the planet then I guess it's likely that they'd behave more like earth's non-human animals and not really think or care about our happiness.
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Re: We may not be alone in this Galaxy
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2008, 04:40:48 PM »
thats ture,i hadn't thought of that.This is giving me good ideas for
my stuff,like my book for example.Heres a question if we ever do
make a starship capable of inter galatic travel and we found a
earth-like planet that was beheind us in technology would we
help them or would we counqer them?
I once thought of writing a nove based on this question.
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