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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2008, 08:43:38 PM »
I know I'm going to regret typing this, but at this point, I don't even care anymore and I doubt you give a crap about anything I have to say anymore. I feel we have lost what 'spam' truly means. I must agree that all of these threads were locked for decent reasons, but it seems more like some were locked the instant spam occured. I'm sure a lot of those threads could've been left unlocked with simple redirection. It seems Dragonium and Bluhman are a bit hasty to lock. I'm not saying they're doing a bad job, they just need to maybe throw in a bit of direction against spam.

Spam is not our enemy, as it seems to have been pictured recently. It lets us connect a little more and become more of a community, we shouldn't try so hard to be rid of it, but instead only take of it when it becomes "too big." If a topic turns from cats to carrots, yes, that's bad. But when it turns from cats to pets in general, that's not too bad of a problem. A simple change in the thread name can fix the problem, rather than lock.
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2008, 08:50:13 PM »
I haven't noticed locks over that kind of thing...
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2008, 08:59:29 PM »
Quote from: X_marks_the_ed on August 05, 2008, 08:43:38 PM
I know I'm going to regret typing this, but at this point, I don't even care anymore and I doubt you give a crap about anything I have to say anymore.

Stop doing that, seriously.

Quote from: X_marks_the_ed on August 05, 2008, 08:43:38 PM
I feel we have lost what 'spam' truly means. I must agree that all of these threads were locked for decent reasons, but it seems more like some were locked the instant spam occured. I'm sure a lot of those threads could've been left unlocked with simple redirection. It seems Dragonium and Bluhman are a bit hasty to lock. I'm not saying they're doing a bad job, they just need to maybe throw in a bit of direction against spam.

I'm going to have to disagree with you here. I hardly think that a thread which has no point to it whatsoever and has no topic of its own is going to be turned into something brilliant with a "keep it on-topic, guys". Likewise I don't reckon a thread which has had two pages of spam should continue after it's served its purpose. Perhaps only one of those threads could have been saved, but it had really run its course anyway.

The fact is before me and Bluhman were brought in everyone was saying "there's too much spam, the mods aren't strict enough", and now folks are saying the opposite. We're going to be strict until people get the message that AoA is not Unmod, and stop posting pointless things. End.
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2008, 09:00:26 PM »
there is currently a topic called "THE OFF TOPIC GAME" and from what i gathered, you can post anything you want there.
Personally i think its weak and a convoluted way of trying to circumvent rules and get a quick lol at the recent stance toward spam but you'll notice its not locked, and its alive and well.

Posting for the sake of boosting your post count is lame. Not lame like "okay guys, quit breaking the rules its lame" I mean lame like "I have a level 70 paladin On the RP server, and thats where i met my girlfriend. Were going to meet IRL one day" but people seem to think it means something. It does not make you less of a n00b. Lurking the forums, and learning skills in RPGM Spriting coding and other game making related things does.

If you guys think our policies regarding spam are bad, perhaps you should look at the policies of some other forums.

If you guys want to have a 4chan painted blue, with charas written on it, its not gonna happen.
If you want Gaia online, im sure you can find the link somewhere.

three of the topics mentioned died of natural causes. the other two were locked because of general idiocy.
If you find it depressing that there is an abundance of ADHD around here, then do something about it, rather then complaining about it publicly.

The internet is not all that serious, contrary to public opinion. Neither is Charas. We have a selection of staff that volunteer to help out.
Those dude have a set of rules to follow, just like the members. If as a member, you feel the need to disregard those rules to be "the coolest dude on charas" and are suprised and/or depressed when the staff does their jobs and locks the thread, then you need to find better ways to pass your time.





For the record, The official policy is to try and help a topic get back on direction before any locking happens. We try not to lock needlessly.
Speaking from experience, as a new mod staff member, sometimes in the beginning you take things a bit seriously. You tend to lock something, or give warnings, as soon as rules are broke, because you want to be able to do "your job" well. They were enforcing the rules of the forum they moderate. Sure, in the future, we can hope that they do it a bit more subtly but for now, theyre still new to this.

Ed, nothing has been locked over such a small change as you have mentioned. I think part of you is just a lil bit spitefull over not being chosen for Mod or elected for mayor. I could be wrong, and Im not here to throw stones, but im not gonna beat around the bush.
You were prepared to full out leave the forums recently over something silly, correct?
I dunno, Ill just up. I will unquestionably be quoted and flammed over this, but honestly, this subject is dried out and overplayed.

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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2008, 09:11:25 PM »
(Preparing response to Dragonium....)

Quote from: gemini on August 05, 2008, 09:00:26 PM
Ed, nothing has been locked over such a small change as you have mentioned.

Personally, I think 10,000 posts could've turned around. Besides a few here and there, most posts were at least relevant.

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I think part of you is just a lil bit spitefull over not being chosen for Mod or elected for mayor. I could be wrong, and Im not here to throw stones, but im not gonna beat around the bush.

You know me better than that.

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You were prepared to full out leave the forums recently over something silly, correct?
I dunno, Ill just up.

Relevant only the background of the mod elections.

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I will unquestionably be quoted and flammed over this, but honestly, this subject is dried out and overplayed.

I'm outta steam. I'll leave that for later.
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2008, 09:14:49 PM »
there were no mod elections Ed, not this time around

The admins chose Mods from a list of applicants, and we chose who we thought would be the most effective and active and reliable...
the preference of the members was not even taken into consideration. (at risk of sounding cold)

If past elections were the source of your turmoil, then you've done nothing but compare an apple to a watermelon


Also: the more angry you get for me Ed, the gaier i get for you.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2008, 09:17:36 PM by gemini »
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2008, 09:19:18 PM »
Quote from: gemini on August 05, 2008, 09:14:49 PM
there were no mod elections Ed, not this time around

The admins chose Mods from a list of applicants, and we chose who we thought would be the most effective and active and reliable...
the preference of the members was not even taken into consideration. (at risk of sounding cold)

If past elections were the source of your turmoil, then you've done nothing but compare an apple to a watermelon


Also: the more angry you get for me Ed, the gaier i get for you.

To be honest, that was a typo. o.O
Meant to be mayor.

Bah, forget Dragonium. I'd better get out before I make this off-topic too.

On-topic: We.... must not post posts outside of the subject area.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2008, 09:21:26 PM by X_marks_the_ed »
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2008, 09:20:37 PM »
Okay then, now it makes more sense.
I was beginning to question your short term memory
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2008, 09:45:25 PM »
Quote from: X_marks_the_ed on August 05, 2008, 08:43:38 PM
I know I'm going to regret typing this, but at this point, I don't even care anymore and I doubt you give a crap about anything I have to say anymore. I feel we have lost what 'spam' truly means. I must agree that all of these threads were locked for decent reasons, but it seems more like some were locked the instant spam occured. I'm sure a lot of those threads could've been left unlocked with simple redirection. It seems Dragonium and Bluhman are a bit hasty to lock. I'm not saying they're doing a bad job, they just need to maybe throw in a bit of direction against spam.

Spam is not our enemy, as it seems to have been pictured recently. It lets us connect a little more and become more of a community, we shouldn't try so hard to be rid of it, but instead only take of it when it becomes "too big." If a topic turns from cats to carrots, yes, that's bad. But when it turns from cats to pets in general, that's not too bad of a problem. A simple change in the thread name can fix the problem, rather than lock.

I like the cut of your jib.
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2008, 09:48:35 PM »
You know what's really depressing? Having to read all that BS you guys have going on up there.

Seriously. And I choose to blame Ed.
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2008, 10:47:54 PM »
Well, I guess we can lock this thread now.









... Haha, I'm just kidding. :P
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2008, 11:19:05 PM »
No seriously I was quite pissed you lot had my thread locked.
It was supposed to be a thought provoking discussion on the longevity of Charas as a website and our dedication to it as members.
But bam, right out the window.
See that window?
Bam.
Right out it.
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2008, 11:34:21 PM »
Quote from: gemini on August 05, 2008, 09:00:26 PM
there is currently a topic called "THE OFF TOPIC GAME" and from what i gathered, you can post anything you want there.
Personally i think its weak and a convoluted way of trying to circumvent rules and get a quick lol at the recent stance toward spam but you'll notice its not locked, and its alive and well.

It is a game aimed to help people have fun; not a loophole.

As to most of this, I concu with Daggy. Seveal people felt the need for moderation, and now that it is being done complaints ae coming. Maybe the mods didn't need to lock the topic, pehaps a simple post of waning to get back on topic would've woked, but they ae just doing the job equested of the people.
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2008, 01:00:59 AM »
Quote from: Meiscool on August 05, 2008, 11:34:21 PM
moderation
Caught ya!
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Re: Depessing.
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2008, 03:30:25 AM »
Sometimes I copy 'r' and paste it. I did the same in my original post with 'were'.
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