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Nandez

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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #135 on: May 21, 2009, 11:23:01 PM »
Everything makes noise grass moving in the wind can make noise.
It is very disputed whether fish feel pain some say yes mostly PETA and most neuroligical doctors/scientists say no while some say yes.
Draw your on conclusion I say they don't from what i've read.


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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #136 on: May 21, 2009, 11:45:54 PM »
I take it you've never gone fishing?
It's quite obvious that they feel pain
They might not feel it for very long, but they feel it
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Nandez

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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #137 on: May 22, 2009, 12:08:42 AM »
Quote from: fruckert on May 21, 2009, 11:45:54 PM
I take it you've never gone fishing?
It's quite obvious that they feel pain
They might not feel it for very long, but they feel it

I have but I disliked it and are you fish or a scientist I really doubt you know for sure since even Neurological doctors and scientists don't know I doubt people on charas do.
I don't even know for sure but I think they don't because of their undevlopment and because i'm a pesceterian. Whether it denials or truth on anyones guess because there are hundred of people syaing they feel pain and hundreds who say they don't
Just because you say they fele pain doesn't make it true just because I ya they don't doesn't make it true either.
Everyone who studied it has a diffrent opion guess you don't really know unless you are a fish but they do lack the cells mammals have and a devloped brain  so my vote goes for they don't feel pain.
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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #138 on: May 22, 2009, 12:31:01 AM »
Ugh...never mind, you seem like you're going to be one of those impossible people who ignores logic
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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #139 on: May 22, 2009, 12:34:49 AM »
Fish exhibit behaviors commonly associated with pain.

I think Archem was either being sarcastic or philosophical when he said plants feel pain.

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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #140 on: May 22, 2009, 12:38:52 AM »
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish#Sense_organs
In 2003, Scottish scientists at the University of Edinburgh performing research on rainbow trout concluded that fish exhibit behaviors often associated with pain.

Seriously, dude.

And...why would they not feel pain?

It would make the fish lack a learning response to danger, and while I admit, some do, most would have to in order to survive

More material, this one explaining it a bit better.
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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #141 on: May 22, 2009, 12:47:46 AM »
Edited previous post.

Do not read if you are easily offended and also probably if you don't smoke pot have an open mind.
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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #142 on: May 22, 2009, 12:51:30 AM »
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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #143 on: May 22, 2009, 12:55:18 AM »
Yeah, I'm not depressed, but I always feel like becoming an hero just to see what happens, but I'm afraid I'll fail and end up in a mental institution.

This is off-topic, though, so, uh... have you ever tried putting hash browns inside of sandwiches? It's good.
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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #144 on: May 22, 2009, 12:58:25 AM »
Quote from: DedlellyDeth on May 22, 2009, 12:55:18 AM
This is off-topic, though, so, uh... have you ever tried putting hash browns inside of sandwiches? It's good.
No, it does sound good though

Hash browns and maple syrup are delicious
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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #145 on: May 22, 2009, 01:00:18 AM »
Quote from: DedlellyDeth on May 22, 2009, 12:34:49 AM
I think Archem was either being sarcastic or philosophical when he said plants feel pain.
Actually, I was playing with my words (as I often do). You may notice that I never said that plants felt pain.

I will explain further as you unravel, should you choose to do so.
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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #146 on: May 22, 2009, 01:01:47 AM »
I just murdered a bunch of lettuce.
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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #147 on: May 22, 2009, 02:40:43 AM »
haha

but seriously,
I feel the argument of whether fish feel pain is kind of a pointless one... A fish is an animal, a living being. If the only reason you don't eat cow is 'cuz they moo and show pain in a way you understand then you're just weak. Seriously, either you don't eat living things or you do regardless of their disposition to pain, it seems to me that that decision should be based more on you're moral beliefs. If you feel bad about eating cow, then don't eat it, that's a respectable decision.

Being vegan and vegetarian is honestly stupid... But that's just my blunt opinion of it.
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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #148 on: May 22, 2009, 03:47:36 AM »
I feel bad about eating broccoli, but I eat it anyway...



Poor little tree-fellas...
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Re: Cheesy Ramen?
« Reply #149 on: May 22, 2009, 07:55:21 PM »
Quote from: Archem2 on May 22, 2009, 03:47:36 AM
I feel bad about eating broccoli, but I eat it anyway...



Poor little tree-fellas...

They have no choice. I think eating plants is the worst because they can't run away like animals can. :(
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