Tool-Assisted Speedruns

[Grandy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayaWIKM9iRE

I just can't stop loving this kinda stuff.

[Darkfox]

I thought there was a YT topic. Also, Julius is having a seizure or had too much coffee.

[Grandy]

That is true, there is a YT movie, but this is not about the video, is about TAS in geneal.

[fruckert]

I personally prefer non TA speedruns
They're far more impressive

[Grandy]

 I get where you're coming from, but I prefer TA speedruns because the others are just not... impressive. You get that feeling of "Even I could do that.", whereas nobody could ever do something like in an TAS video.

[fruckert]

Main reason why I'm not too terribly impressed with TAS's is that it's hacking
You're not playing the game like it should have been, and as such, anybody can do it
Sure...it might take a little while to hack it, but then it's pretty badass to watch
Mainly because of the crazy **** that happens

However...watching somebody beat Super Metroid in 15 minutes with pure skill...holy ****ing ****
That's impressive as all hell

[Darkfox]

I'm perfectly fine with modding, don't care much for speed-runs in general. They are funny to watch though, to see the characters spazzing out.

[Grandy]

Main reason why I'm not too terribly impressed with TAS's is that it's hacking
You're not playing the game like it should have been, and as such, anybody can do it
Sure...it might take a little while to hack it, but then it's pretty badass to watch
Mainly because of the crazy **** that happens

However...watching somebody beat Super Metroid in 15 minutes with pure skill...holy ****ing ****
That's impressive as all hell

Not hacking. The game engine isn't tampered at all. They merely exploit it to the maximum capacity.

[fruckert]

Tool Assisted means they used something to help
It doesn't always involve modding the game code, but it does mean using something beyond just your own pure skill

I just think non-TAS's are cooler, whatever
On with the topic

[Grandy]

The topic is about TAS, and about TAS we are talking.

And if by "Something to help" you meant "Savestates", then yes, you are right.

[fruckert]

Either that or route plotters, slow-motion and frame by frame

[Darkfox]

I have the patience to mod and hack a game. I don't quite have the patience for slow-motion. They astound me how they can actually sit through that. It sounds so tedious.

[Grandy]

Well, yeah, but still, the savestates is like the main point. Also, frame-by-frame and slow-mo are the same thing, plus plotting rotes are done in normal speedruns as well.

I have the patience to mod and hack a game. I don't quite have the patience for slow-motion and frame by frame. They astound me how they can actually sit through that. It sounds so tedious.

 Well, yeah, it is. I tried to make a TAs once, and managed to do a pretty decent one if I do say so myself, but after a quick search, someone had already done one, and his video was 13 mins shorter than mine. So... yeah.

[fruckert]

True, but I was referring to playing the game at a slower speed, such as .5x, and playing at a single frame, inputting a command, then proceeding it by hand for slo-mo and fbf

[Grandy]

True, but I was referring to playing the game at a slower speed, such as .5x, and playing at a single frame, inputting a command, then proceeding it by hand for slo-mo and fbf

 I see. Well, yeah.