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Offline Grandy

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Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« on: December 13, 2011, 12:05:04 AM »
 Now that I have your attention, here's what I wish to discuss:

Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.

 Now I think after all the years I've been somewhat lurking here, people know I'm not the kind of person who will just spout that for no reason, and that by "group X  needs to shut up" I don't mean EVERYONE in group X, so when I say atheists, keep in mind I mean a specific vocal kind of atheist. The kind that is not an atheist like me (AKA The-Guy-Who-Has-No-Religion-But-Whatever-Dude-You-Believe-In-What-You-Want-And-More-Power-To-You).

 SO

 I've noticed an increase in the number of anti-religion guys around the web. They are not only atheists, they are the guys who not only don't believe in God, they also feel the need to berate and act superior to anyone who believes in any God. Why? Because they feel they are in the right. Ober the years, religion in general became the "evil thing we must fight". Religion became the same as misinformation, abuse of power, manipulation.

 And know what? Yeah, a great deal of religion is like that.

 HOWEVER

 These guys do not settle for attacking the manipulators, misinformative people on top of religion. Oh, no, they go for the believers, the ones who have no fault at all. They go yell at the guy who wears a crucifix, instead of the guy yelling at the guys wearing crucifixes to kill all homossexual. And they think both guys are the same.

 Now why am I writing this impromptu rant? Well, someone on 9gag posted something (likely a repost) I can't be bothered to find, but will describe; it was a charge with two panels, in the first one, a priest is hitting a man in the head with a cross yelling "Atheist! Scum! Sinner!" and so forth. In the second panel, the atheist is trying to break the cross and the priest is saying "Whoa, whoa! I want so respect here!".

 Eh.

 Then I go to the comments section, and everyone is like "Man, this is so true, religion is stupid and arrogant and everyone who believes in it is stupid", and when I mean everyone, I mean EVERYONE. There was one guy posting there that said he believed in God. He was promptly shut up with calls of "grow up and stop believing in magic!" and "that's because you're ignorant" if it was real-life instead of the internet I can guarantee you he'd have been publicly lynched.

 Then I compared the posts to the panels, and noticed an inversion here.

 The atheists were breaking the cross, then when the priest went "Dude what, stop that", they threw themselves in the ground yelling "You're forcing your opinions upon me!"

 And the worst is they actually believe it!

 They really think someone saying he is religious is somehow offensive to your status as an atheist, and that it's wrong to try and believe in life after death, and that all which they don't know are definite lies told by definite liars. Everyone is quick to judge religion as the "masses being brainwashed" without realising that right now, atheists are the masses, and the brainwashing is what they are doing with this herd effect, berating anyone who thinks differently.

 I'm not sure I'm making myself clear here. It's hard to come up with the proper words when you're mad at ranpant ignorance.
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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 12:37:56 AM »
Agreed. It's like the witch hunts all over again, only it's the people who believe in God who are being persecuted. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. There's an issue here where an atheist group up North is trying to use the law in its favor to punish a courthouse that has a nativity scene on its lawn. While it technically violates separation of church and state and is likely to be forcibly removed, it's asshats who can't be tolerant of others that give a group a bad name.
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Offline HackersTotalMassLaser

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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 01:03:59 AM »
Believe or not believe, not being to tolerate others for what they believe or not believe, is still the same if you believe or not believe.

If that makes sense.
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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2011, 02:17:13 AM »
It doesn't. Mostly awful sentence structure.
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Offline fruckert

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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2011, 02:22:36 AM »
Man, that was Nandez levels of bad, HTML.

But yeah. Agreed through and through.
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ed: To sum up my feelings, Archem's signature.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2011, 02:41:30 AM by fruckert »
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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2011, 02:47:11 AM »
Quote from: fruckert on December 13, 2011, 02:22:36 AM
Man, that was Nandez levels of bad, HTML.

But yeah. Agreed through and through.
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ed: To sum up my feelings, Archem's signature.

Lucas is in this topic?
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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2011, 03:13:52 AM »
No, but he IS that type of atheist.
I love the dude like a brother, but goddamn he's a prick about religion.
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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2011, 03:16:27 AM »
Oh.

Yeah lucas this goes to you too.
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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2011, 03:22:56 AM »
Unfortunately it can be quite annoying for the atheist who just wants a good debate when the religious side isn't offering anything remotely solid to back their own argument.  Although I agree that atheists should leave religious people alone when in the real world, when it comes to a debate topic, the religious person should have come in armed or not bothered at all.
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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2011, 03:39:35 AM »
What I meant is that a religious person who bickers on with a lesbian, is the same as an atheist who bickers on with a catholic priest. There's room to suggest one's belief (or non-belief), but prodding is what sets people off. Whichever side of the coin you are.
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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2011, 03:53:57 AM »
Quote from: Moosetroop11 on December 13, 2011, 03:22:56 AM
Unfortunately it can be quite annoying for the atheist who just wants a good debate when the religious side isn't offering anything remotely solid to back their own argument.  Although I agree that atheists should leave religious people alone when in the real world, when it comes to a debate topic, the religious person should have come in armed or not bothered at all.

Things is, there is no debate. At least as far as I saw, atheists just called the believer names whenever they could and called it a day.
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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2011, 03:58:28 AM »
You're saying that there are religious pricks, just like there are atheist pricks? Yeah, that's a known fact. One existed before the other, but they're now about equal.

Quote from: Moosetroop11 on December 13, 2011, 03:22:56 AM
Unfortunately it can be quite annoying for the atheist who just wants a good debate when the religious side isn't offering anything remotely solid to back their own argument.
[...]When it comes to a debate topic, the religious person should have come in armed or not bothered at all.
Somewhat unfair, given that religion is largely faith-based, and it's difficult to have solid facts that prove the existence of a higher power. If strong enough evidence actually existed beyond the intelligent design argument, the debates wouldn't exist. God would be a fact, not a debatable topic.
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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2011, 04:38:13 AM »
It all comes down to the 'battle against ignorance' impulse that a lot of people have. If you believe that someone is deluding themselves, you try and make them realise their mistake.  The trouble is that some people take it too far and push too much.  The only way it really works is if religion is private, because as you said, debating it is practically impossible.
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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 09:32:22 AM »
Us atheists don't need to be dicks if religious people could debate on a scientific level. But then again, saying "SHUT UP THE BOOK SAYS SO" is nice and easy, isn't it?

EDIT:

On contribution to your thread, I say you're being blind. Whether it's atheists, Christians, Muslims, Jehova Witnesses or whatever religion you pull out of your ***, people will act this way. It's not because they're atheists, it's because humans don't like to be wrong. So get something valid to rant about next time.

http://christianityversusatheism.blogspot.com/
http://www.wikihow.com/Persuade-an-Atheist-to-Become-Christian
http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2011/atheists-should-be-banned/
http://atheism.about.com/b/2005/04/29/thank-god-for-violence-against-atheists.htm


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Re: Atheists are stupid and need to shut up.
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2011, 12:26:50 PM »
I haven't read any of the posts in this thread yet but I swear if any of you has taken "religion" to mean "Christianity" I'm going to snap some spines.
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