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Offline GaryCXJk

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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2012, 11:25:13 PM »
I will have to disagree with that. Sometimes developers are too detached from the competative players, meaning they will only tweak that which they themselves think is an issue. Also, sometimes gamers just need an immediate fix.

EDIT: I was obviously replying to Lucas, but someone posted quicker.
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2012, 06:11:53 AM »
I am concerned about the game, but I really do not care enough to form a solid opinion.
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2012, 09:17:19 PM »
Here's what I feel from what I've seen.  Because I know you all care about my opinion oh-so-much.

Smash Brothers created the winning formula for this genre of game.  That is a simple fact.  You can tweak it, add, or subtract whatever you feel, but the simple fact remains that this formula is already perfected.  Rather than just create a "clone" that people can defend isn't a clone through the they changed enough content method or the even more comical derailing the conversation and citing the many instances Nintendo has stolen ideas, they should have just directly cloned the **** out of the game and had exactly Smash Brothers but with Sony characters.  I would have been on board.  The idea to rack up your power gauge to unleash super attacks to defeat enemies just doesn't seem as much fun to me as racking up the percentage to make them easier to knock off.  Speaking of knocking off, the whole idea that there is a floor and you can't spike anyone down for a kill absolutely upsets me.  In conclusion, the overall mechanics for how the game plays just screams "I want to be my own Smash Brothers!" but falls short of being entertaining.

Now let's look at the character selection.  Sony simply lacks again.  Everyone is sick of Mario, Link, *insert another frequently noted Nintendo rep*, but they sure as hell appeal a lot more than most of what Sony offers.  Now don't get me wrong, I loved Uncharted to death.  But playing as Nathan Drake in this game does not strike me as appealing in the same way.  This may be due to the fact that he may be the only character announced thus far that appeals to me.  There are a few other staples who are getting recognition that I appreciate, Spike (Ape Escape), Sir Daniel Fortesque (MediEval), and the stage with a Patapon cameo tickles me (Would be thrilled if they gain their own playable slot), but still I am not getting the same appeal.  The current roster does not really stand out to me.  If they can start tapping in to the vein of Crash Bandicoot or Spyro that would be wonderful.  I would be even satisfied if Square would throw in a couple reps like Aya Brea (Parasite Eve) or allow Sora to debut in a fighting style game (I'm in a Kingdom Hearts phase so shove it.)

All in all, this game looks like it has potential, and I do not care that it is a Smash Bros. rip.  In fact, I think they should have just stolen their entire formula, but I understand that is frowned upon.  However, given what I see from the gameplay and current roster, this looks to me like a wait 6 months and buy on eBay for $10 title.
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2012, 09:26:25 PM »
Quote from: oooog on August 21, 2012, 09:17:19 PM
Smash Brothers created the winning formula for this genre of game.

Actually it's widely disputed that Smash ripped off Power Stone in the first place. So... circle of life. /nerdism
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2012, 09:45:02 PM »
Quote from: greenraven on August 21, 2012, 09:26:25 PM
Actually it's widely disputed that Smash ripped off Power Stone in the first place. So... circle of life. /nerdism

By winning formula, I implied what many unanimously agree to be the best, not the original.  In addition to this, while there are many similarities, I maintain them to be very different games due to the 3 Dimensional space in Power Stone compared to the (what I refer to) platform fighter that is Smash.  It's like saying Super Mario 3 is the same platformer as Mario 64.  They are both platformers with very similar attributes, but the additional dimension creates a large enough difference that it is it's own brand of Platformer.

I however understand and can see the similarities of Power Stone and Smash, and I would actually like to see how Smash would hold in that similar style.
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2012, 03:57:48 AM »
Trope Maker and Trope Codifier are two very different things.
In response to Greenraven.

And yeah...Sony lacks the "star power" to pull this off.
****ing everybody knows who Mario and Link are, and the prospect of seeing them fight is a little more exciting than saying "Who would win in a fight, Cole MacGrath or Fat Princess?"
Also, yeah, the gameplay looks like it completely lacks depth.
If you're going to rip off smash bros, at least add something new to the table.
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2012, 04:51:17 AM »
Actually, there was another game far before Power Stone that was much more similar to Smash Bros., and I'm almost certain that the devs said it was a big influence. I only wish I could remember what it was called. It was a two-player arcade fighter with MASSIVE levels, and was very similar in a lot of ways to Smash Bros.
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2012, 05:02:08 AM »
Quote from: Archem on August 22, 2012, 04:51:17 AM
Actually, there was another game far before Power Stone that was much more similar to Smash Bros., and I'm almost certain that the devs said it was a big influence. I only wish I could remember what it was called. It was a two-player arcade fighter with MASSIVE levels, and was very similar in a lot of ways to Smash Bros.

Dream Mix TV World Fighters.

Now that I think about it, yeah, it's a much better match than Power Stone. So yeah, point is Smash didn't do anything new. It simply got lucky.

It's like with the Dreamcast, hellava system waaaaaaaaaay ahead of it's time (Playstation 1 and Gamecube were crap compared to it). But bad timing destroyed it. RIP, lil buddy, RIP. T_T

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No wait, it can't be Dream Mix. Not early enough to account for Smash 64. Nevermind. :\
« Last Edit: August 22, 2012, 05:03:53 AM by greenraven »
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2012, 05:25:45 AM »
No, that's not the game I was thinking of, but it brings up a good point.

I'm not planning on telling anyone that point. You're a bunch of smart cookies, so you'll figure it out.
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2012, 09:40:24 PM »
So yeah. Kick and stuff.

They added sackboy for LBP. He's not gonna be a kirby clone. Just another fighter, using stickers and stuff. Just looks a bit weird watching him do fighting.

Oddest addition. Evil Cole mcgarth from infamous. Never played the game but "good" cole mcgarth is in the game. They aren't even separate people are they? Doubt a lot of fans thought "Hey, I wonder what it would be like if good cole faught evil cole!"
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2012, 09:44:42 PM »
Technically they are the same person (duh), but they have different powers.
That's the entire gimmick of the series :V
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2012, 09:45:09 PM »
Quote from: Prpl_Mage on August 30, 2012, 09:40:24 PM
Never played the game but "good" cole mcgarth is in the game. They aren't even separate people are they?

It's one guy. Depending on how you play the game you become either good or evil. It's like the Hulk or Jekyll & Hyde. XD
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2012, 09:51:13 PM »
Good Cole (small spoilers) can get Ice powers, and Evil Cole can get...weird tar-like fire powers.
Also Good Cole = precision + speed, Evil Cole = EXPLOSIONS BAM POW WOOH
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2012, 11:59:55 PM »
Both Coles can surf trains though! :D
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Re: Playstation allstars battle royal.
« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2012, 07:03:47 AM »
So it's kinda like if nintendo added Mario with one of his power up hats? Like fire mario, metal mario, raccoon mario, pinguin mario ect ect.
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