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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Fortet on March 10, 2010, 04:25:22 AM
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So, I gotta' say... I just picked this up about two hours ago. Popped it in. It felt pretty nostalgic. The graphics are absolutely gorgeous; seamless transitions from in-game to cutscenes are a plus. Voice acting is very nice this time around. ABS is back, in a way. Where it lacks in being able to control other characters, it makes up for it in being able to use items whenever you want to (outside of gauge).
Oh yeah.
3 DISCS FOR THE 360 VERSION @_@
So far, the beginning is pretty slow. I'm hoping it picks up soon. Snow just ran into Hope and what's-her-name-with-the-Australian-accent chick. And Lightning keeps getting annoyed by black-guy-with-baby-chocobo.
Anyone have any thoughts on this game?
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3 DISCS FOR THE 360 VERSION @_@
I believe Lost Odyssey had more.
I want to at least rent it, because it does look fun.
The last few FF games that I've played (VIII and XII) kind of pissed me off, so I'm a little wary.
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You know how every FF game ever gets near perfect scores near launch due to hype? This didn't even get that.
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Either the game wasn't hyped, or there are no towns.
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I've heard a lot things that makes this more like a Hack and slash rather than RPG. The whole, no levels, full heal after battles, no towns or NPC's unless crucial. And so on, But I'm getting it. I got FFXII and I doubt this can be worse.
To be honest, if Enix manages to make a FF worse than FFXII then my FF days are over.
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I've heard a lot things that makes this more like a Hack and slash rather than RPG. The whole, no levels, full heal after battles, no towns or NPC's unless crucial. And so on, But I'm getting it. I got FFXII and I doubt this can be worse.
To be honest, if Enix manages to make a FF worse than FFXII then my FF days are over.
Why do you hate FFXII so much? It wasn't even that terrible.
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Scuked.
But for the sake of playing it English, I'll give it a go again.
Just before I finish playing some other games, and get off the job.
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Why do you hate FFXII so much? It wasn't even that terrible.
DIE IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Meh. I could really care less about this game...
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FFX disappointed me, and so did FFXI, which I think shouldn't even be named FFXI but FFOnline or whatever.
Never tried FFXII, planned on doing it, but I guess from the various comments I've read about it, I shouldn't expect much. Read very few about FFXIII but since they all started to disappoint me since FFVIII (except FFIX, love that game) I guess I shouldn't expect much from this one either.
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Never tried FFXII, planned on doing it, but I guess from the various comments I've read about it, I shouldn't expect much. Read very few about FFXIII but since they all started to disappoint me since FFVIII (except FFIX, love that game) I guess I shouldn't expect much from this one either.
The gameplay amounts to "Run around a little bit, then go cook dinner while the game does everything for you."
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FFX disappointed me, and so did FFXI, which I think shouldn't even be named FFXI but FFOnline or whatever.
Never tried FFXII, planned on doing it, but I guess from the various comments I've read about it, I shouldn't expect much. Read very few about FFXIII but since they all started to disappoint me since FFVIII (except FFIX, love that game) I guess I shouldn't expect much from this one either.
My thoughts exactly.
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Why do you hate FFXII so much? It wasn't even that terrible.
I'm going to assume you're blind, deaf, have no hands, and are able to fill plot holes in with your exceptionally vivid imagination.
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True, but this IS Square Enix.
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I'm going to assume you're blind, deaf, have no hands, and are able to fill plot holes in with your exceptionally vivid imagination.
Lmao. I havent played the game, but I heard its quite bad. And your post... Win.
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I've heard a lot things that makes this more like a Hack and slash rather than RPG. The whole, no levels, full heal after battles, no towns or NPC's unless crucial. And so on, But I'm getting it. I got FFXII and I doubt this can be worse.
To be honest, if Enix manages to make a FF worse than FFXII then my FF days are over.
Wait, what? Full heals and no towns or NPCS? What's this crap? Are you serious?
The gameplay amounts to "Run around a little bit, then go cook dinner while the game does everything for you."
This is basically true, but I think it pointed out how f'ing boring a lot of RPG battle systems are. Sure you auto-attacked in 12 a lot, but, well, that's basically all you ever really did in any of the other games. It just eliminated the need to spam the action button to hit attack every time a character's turn came up.
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Fun fact: People would have probably loved FFXII if it didn't have the Final Fantasy name. Goddamn purists.
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I've heard a lot things that makes this more like a Hack and slash rather than RPG. The whole, no levels, full heal after battles, no towns or NPC's unless crucial. And so on, But I'm getting it. I got FFXII and I doubt this can be worse.
To be honest, if Enix manages to make a FF worse than FFXII then my FF days are over.
I have to agree I thought personally Final Fantasy died with X-2 but 12 was a massacre.
I have not played the new one but it doens't look anywhere near as bad as 12 either way Final Fantasy days I hope are ending especially if 13 is just as bad as 12 to leave whatever dignity the FF series has left. Now that they have pretty much exhausted every resource of FF7 they have to rely on new games.
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Porbably? Well, I'd still hate it. Then again, I'm not a fan of Square Enix.
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<< I like the game.
I've made it to the second disc and I intend to finish it. The characters have a hell of a lot more personality then 12 did and I am enjoying the story so far. I'm wondering if you guys are just looking for a reason to hate it? =p There are NPCs whom talk when you want to talk to them or automatically. I don't know about the towns thing since I'm still in Cocoon.
One thing I really like? They're making damn sure you use every single character. The group even parts ways and a few punches are thrown between them. The battle system isn't too bad. You only have controll of one character and if the one you're using dies, it's game over. The battle can play it's self with little help from you being as it is active. You can change the role of your comrades and they will auto attack/heal based on that.
The summons seem interesting, I've gathered Shiva "twins" and Odin and will get more as the game progresses. I do think to be fair, y'all should give it a try. We all have different opinions, while I may like it another may love it and the next may loathe it.
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<<<< Not buying until price drop
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<<<< Not buying until price drop
I'm going to rent it.
I'll buy a game if I know it is good.
Like most game your taking a chance with wasting money and could end up buying a terrible game. With Final Fantasy your taking a even bigger chance but hey maybe i'm wrong. I hope so.
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lol I got it for $16.83. Yay Trade-Ins :)
The story seems to be picking up a bit, but the character interactions seems so... forced. I dunno'. It's not very natural IMO. But the gameplay is still pretty solid so far. I'm only in Lake Bresha, so I still have quite a ways to go :P
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Final Fantasy X-2
Otherwise known as Final fantasy Barbie edition- complete with fantasy rock concert.
Seriously, though, I'm starting to give up on Square Enix. I did take a look at the IGN review for XIII and it did look pretty convincing. Still, after X-2, and XII, I'm not really expecting much. I did enjoy Dissidia for a while, though...
To be honest, if Enix manages to make a FF worse than FFXII then my FF days are over.
You ever play a game called FF1?
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It's not really fair to judge 1 harshly by today's standards. It's nigh unplayable by now, but when it came out, it did a lot of things better than other games of the time. Gotta remember that most RPGs before Final Fantasy were storyless dungeon crawls where you could enter a wrong room and get an instant game over.
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The last final fantasy I played was X... *shivers* But atleast it was all I had to go through. You guys are brave for buying and playing XII and XIII.
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The last final fantasy I played was X... *shivers* But atleast it was all I had to go through. You guys are brave for buying and playing XII and XIII.
I actually liked X.
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One thing that greatly disappointed me in FFX was the lack of World Travelling. I also preferred the way summon worked in previous FF. I don't like the characters much, too. The musics weren't as good as previous FF either.
I also enjoyed FF1 (well the remakes, not the original on the NES).
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What's wrong with FF13 is the lack of adventure. You know fantasy shouldntt be only limited to like Sci-fi. Besides being quirky and childish, it's too linear and easy.
Seriously, though, I'm starting to give up on Square Enix. I did take a look at the IGN review for XIII and it did look pretty convincing.
IGN should not be taken seriously. Their way of rating games have gone downhill for a while. Now adays I try to read magazines for critic's opinions and scores on games; Websites now adays are all fan runned. Just like this game.
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IGN should not be taken seriously.
But so many of their videos have scantily clad, hot women talking about video games in them- why wouldn't you take them seriously?
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Cuz, I BELIEVE I CAN FLY~
But seriously since Sakaguchi left SquareEnix, FF games have been PFF
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Despite the incredible fan bitching, it doesn't seem to really affecting their status as a well-known corporate giant though. People say they don't like the games, but they still buy them, and that's what matters in the end.
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I think it's because there's no other company really churning out RPGs with the same production values. You may not think the new FFs are awesome, but you buy them because you think they'll probably be better than than the other titles you've never heard of. Unless it's XII- couldn't even finish it.
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Well I'm pretty sure one of the main reason people will buy any FF game even though they might not enjoy it is simply because it is a Final Fantasy. Rename it something else I'm sure they won't sell as much.
Of course I may be wrong, though.
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I am personally waiting on The Last Story by Mistwalker. I think it might bring some good old day RPGing, with a refreshing approach to fantasy. The recent sci-fi whoring approach of fantasy now adays is getting overrated.
Despite the incredible fan bitching, it doesn't seem to really affecting their status as a well-known corporate giant though. People say they don't like the games, but they still buy them, and that's what matters in the end.
Sadly, that's why the games I don't like and need to play I get off the bootleg store across the street.
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Well, I'm not really one who cares for FF anymore. I've left Square Enix and went to Atlus a long time ago with the Shin Megami Tensei series
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You ever play a game called FF1?
Assuming that it's bad, this is an unfair comparison. You can't take the first of a series and suggest that it's the worst, and that it deserves to be remembered as the worst. It's the first. Of course it's been improved upon. It's been 20 years.
Of course, I would also like to state that I loved that game. Still better than X in my eyes.
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Well, I'm not really one who cares for FF anymore. I've left Square Enix and went to Atlus a long time ago with the Shin Megami Tensei series
Wise choice. That series was very enjoyable for a good rpg.
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Wait, what? Full heals and no towns or NPCS? What's this crap? Are you serious?
You don't have Mp in this game, all hp is restored after battle and all status problems removed.
You can even press Select to restart a battle if it goes bad or something.
Everytime you enter a town stuff happens and you don't get chances to speak with NPCs(you can't reach them), but the few times you do get near them they just say stuff as you pass by and it's more like to each other rather than to you.
Also, the save point acts as the shop, and it is very rarely updated.
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You can say that it's FFX but a different storyline.
You have the "walk where your nose point" maps that pretty much means follow the road to reach the next part of the game.
You have the Crysto-somethingsomething which is basically a different version of a Sphere grid. Tons better than the license board BUT you need to progress through the story to unlock more things.
You have a minimap.
The game seems to focus a lot on you looking at the beautiful detailed backgrounds.
Beside that... Well. Enemies walk around on the maps, you tuch them to engage in combat. The combat system is ATB gone wild. everything is so goddamn dynamic that the game never stops even when you enter a meny. You gotta be quick.
Skills and stuff costs AP, and most characters have 2-3 AP at the start of the game. for example. Fire costs 1 ap and fira costs 2. So you can either use 3 fire or 1 fire, 1 fira. Everyone with math should be able to understand it. You can also choose to cut the command in the middle. Say you have 3 AP and just want to do one attack instead of 3 and doesn't want to wait for the ATB bar to fill - simply press triangle button and it executes it instantly.
NOTE: AP is in fact an ATB bar divided. So when it passes the first mark it should be seen as 1 ap. Donno how to explain it.
Oh yeah, you only control the leader of your party - the rest are AI controlled. You can however somewhat affect their usage thanks to the class system.
Yes, FFXIII have a class system. And you can swapp the entire party's "formation" in the middle of the battle. In fact, you pretty much have to in order to survive.
But the fact remains, this is an enjoyable game. Lots of stuff that makes little sense to begin with(storywise) and some lacking RPG elements as well as a bunch missing fantasy elements. But it is a good game.
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The battle system sounds horrible, dear God.
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Well, I'm not really one who cares for FF anymore. I've left Square Enix and went to Atlus a long time ago with the Shin Megami Tensei series
Well, I think that you're not supposed to even pay attention to who made it. You play the game and not the company, after all.
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Well, I think that you're not supposed to even pay attention to who made it. You play the game and not the company, after all.
To be honest, I never cared who made what. But what Square has been giving the past few years has been very underwhelming for me. Since most people I've meet seems to think Square to be the only company in the world to produce JRPGs (no kidding, I've ran into a dozen people people who never played an RPG NOT made by them), I made that statement about leaving them since most people don't know about much else. Of course people here would know other RPGs than Square RPGs. But in real life, not many people who play RPGs have.
I'm not really company loyal to anyone, but Atlus has pleased me well with the Persona series, Digital Devil Saga and more. Though I still play any other RPGs made by anyone else.
As for FF13? Well... I don't really know if I will play it, really. I wasn't too excited for the game when they showed the trailers or anything. I never payed attention to it. So I might sometime, but maybe not soon
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True that. All-in-all it looks pretty generic. Nothing interesting, more eye candy than a game it seems.
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I played FF1, 2, and Tactics Advance. Haven't played any others. And I have a pretty good life so I guess they aren't that important. :P
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Of all the FF I played and enjoyed, there was:
1, 2, 4, 7, 9, FFTA and though I was quite disappointed, FFT:WotL (or FFT remake). I also enjoyed FFMQ, though it was probably called FF to increase sells. Heard FF6 was pretty good, so I might give it a try some days. I did not like 3 for many reasons and 5 doesn't appeal me much. I've seen enough of 10 and 11 to know I wouldn't enjoy any of them. Haven't tried 12, but apparently I shouldn't expect much. Know absolutely nothing about 13 beside what's being posted here.
I also enjoyed Chrono Trigger.
Only non-square RPG I can remember playing right now was Golden Sun (1 and 2) and it is awesome.
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Assuming that it's bad, this is an unfair comparison. You can't take the first of a series and suggest that it's the worst, and that it deserves to be remembered as the worst. It's the first. Of course it's been improved upon. It's been 20 years.
Of course, I would also like to state that I loved that game. Still better than X in my eyes.
I like this. I never played the original, but the FF1 remake for GBA was a lot of fun. The only thing I disliked was the ridiculous amount of battles. But I expected that going into the game.
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Of all the FF I played and enjoyed, there was:
1, 2, 4, 7, 9, FFTA and though I was quite disappointed, FFT:WotL (or FFT remake)
The fact that you were disappointed in FFT but not in FFTA makes me question your sanity.
I really liked FF12, and FF13 is pretty fun thus far. I've also heard good things about the battle system in FFX-2. And I enjoyed FFX.
I guess I'm just the odd guy out of everyone here. I didn't find huge faults in these games that were deal-breakers.
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The fact that you were disappointed in FFT but not in FFTA makes me question your sanity.
There are many other reasons as well, but we're not talking about this.
Seriously though, what disappointed me in FFT:
Only humans, need a class to learn and use items, charge spell/skills, learn from actions rather than equipments, random battles rather than clan moving on the world map with the option to skip them (though there were random attack for turf), only 5 characters per fights rather than 6, counter effects and such not even 100% chance...
I guess if I had played FFT before FFTA, I wouldn't be disappointed at all. In fact, I might've been disappointed by few things in FFTA instead, such as the Laws.
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The fact that you were disappointed in FFT but not in FFTA makes me question your sanity.
I really liked FF12, and FF13 is pretty fun thus far. I've also heard good things about the battle system in FFX-2. And I enjoyed FFX.
I guess I'm just the odd guy out of everyone here. I didn't find huge faults in these games that were deal-breakers.
Neither is there anything ground breaking. I got the US versioin, and I plan to play it on monday when I finish Dante's Inferno. Which is a stupid game.
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ITT: People who don't play the game, judging it as horrible. People who have played the game saying it's good. And people claiming that Atlus is great, even though most of the time it's just publishing those games, and not actually developing them.
Atlus = Far more miss than hit. Demon Souls is the only game that comes to mind when I think of Atlus games that were actually good in a while; that being said it was DEVELOPED by From Software anyways.
My two-cents on FFXIII, battle system is awesome; story is entertaining. What more do you want from an RPG? Generic-ness? Pffft; look to Atlus for that.
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It seems like you've ONLY played the games Atlus publishes. The games they develop themselves are anything but generic.
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ITT: People who don't play the game, judging it as horrible. People who have played the game saying it's good. And people claiming that Atlus is great, even though most of the time it's just publishing those games, and not actually developing them.
Atlus = Far more miss than hit. Demon Souls is the only game that comes to mind when I think of Atlus games that were actually good in a while; that being said it was DEVELOPED by From Software anyways.
My two-cents on FFXIII, battle system is awesome; story is entertaining. What more do you want from an RPG? Generic-ness? Pffft; look to Atlus for that.
I don't know about the story I have yet to play it (kind of outgrown Final Fantasy games) but what would I want from a rpg than most lack?
Maturity.
A romance plot that actually advances into something that isn't like most romance plots in game where the two characters annoy each other but truthfully love each other one is put in danger and the other saves him/her to prove they love each other but there is no real claim of love or even a kiss. Or we are best friends and always together we secrelty have a connection that is love I think but its never explained or addressed.
Good character development that isn't cliche. I'm a good thief or a good guy doing semi bad things but not really, or I'm the prideful silent type with a mysterious past or even I'm a nice guy at heart but I do anything when truthfully I hate doing them because they are wrong so I'll complain about them through the entire game, but over the course of the game I will become the only person that can save the World like so many rpgs.
Also don't forget (enter every other rpg cliche here).
I want the opposite of that in a rpg.
Sadly the majority of rpgs in the last 3 years and I am not kidding are all exactly or close enough to being like that which may be why I have started to dislike them.
Does FFXIII supply that? Or is a let down repeating the same formula yet again?
@ Apex I do have to say the Persona games (2-4 mostly) do follow a slight patern of generic rpgs sometimes but are enjoyable somewhat with some originality thrown in.
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My two-cents on FFXIII, battle system is awesome; story is entertaining. What more do you want from an RPG? Generic-ness? Pffft; look to Atlus for that.
But isn't FF a generic title and Square keeps rehashing character and story lines? Logical fail.
It seems like you've ONLY played the games Atlus publishes. The games they develop themselves are anything but generic.
Indeed. But he is a FF fanboy. Of course he'll say FF is AWSUM and is the most bestified RPG serees of all tiem. Meh...
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Atlus = Far more miss than hit. Demon Souls is the only game that comes to mind when I think of Atlus games that were actually good in a while; that being said it was DEVELOPED by From Software anyways.
My two-cents on FFXIII, battle system is awesome; story is entertaining. What more do you want from an RPG? Generic-ness? Pffft; look to Atlus for that.
Yeah, you know. You're so right. Look at that generic game Digital Devil saga, leader of a tribe, in a tactical war with other tribes and then get turned into a demon of some sort, forced to battle out and control other tribe territories in a Hindu based environment (yup, definitely overused religion there, unlike Celtic, Greek and Norse). Let's not forget that they aren't trying to stop some overlord or anything, just trying to survive and retain their human selves. I mean, that's just so generic of an RPG.
Persona, that's generic to. People using a power based on the their personality and determination which grows and changes with them. Heck, the most generic thing I've seen is in Persona 4 when you gain the party member by defeating their shadow, and allowing them to accept that they have problems and over come them, thus making their shadow become a Persona and become their power. That's so cliche. Not to mention the fact that Death was sympathetic and understanding of human beings, giving them insight and meaning throughout the battle. If they wanted to be original, they should have put a cloak and on a skull and made him laugh evily as he kills you.
And look at Devil Summoner: being a Japanese cop in the early 20th century who can capture and have demons of all shapes and sizes to his aid, the game having an old cop movie feel, battling Rasputin. EVERY RPG does that.
Yeah, some real generic stuff Atlus gives everyone.
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Yeah! They should be more original and make us collect items of magic, have weapons of outrageous designs that could never work in real life, and bring up ancient wars that are mentioned, never emphasized much on, but will be brought back in your lifetime because apparently they didn't start to bring it back until you came into the picture! Nothing sets everything in motion like a few crazy kids and Shaft/racial stereotype!
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Really, I'm not judging FFXIII yet. Though I'll wait on a price drop before I really try it out or maybe borrow it from a friend. I just felt odd about the direction they are going and, with the exception of Shaft over there, the cast wasn't looking too great for me. But, again, my full judgment on that will have to wait until I play.
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I don't think I can handle the level of sarcasm that is in this topic.
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Sarcasm? I see no sarcasm.
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ITT: People who don't play the game, judging it as horrible. People who have played the game saying it's good.
I've played the Japanese version. It was bad. I was very hyped for the game but it was a huge let down. I have now gotten the US version to see if I can understand more of the story that I did miss but that I doubt it'll bring anything new or good to the bad experience with the systems and linear progression in this game.
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... I can't say I've ever really hated a game I've ever played.
Really. I have extrememly low standards because I hardly ever get to play a videogame anymore.
Example: Loved FFXII. And X. And I/II. Too bad I've never come close to beating any of them... er, I came close to beating X. Thats pretty much it. Oh, and II. I just am not that great at playing games, but enjoy it.
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The biggest thing that bothers me in Final Fantasy XIII is the fact that Hope looks so much like Vaan... who looked so much like Tidus... who looked so much like Zidane...
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Except that Zidane is awesome.
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Except that Zidane is awesome.
Win
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I know, stupid bump/double post. But it's my topic :P
Any tips on beating Barthandelus?
I'm using Lightning, Hope, and Vanille.
Lighting: Commando - 3, Ravager - 3, Medic - 2
Hope: Ravager - 3, Synergist - 2, Medic 3
Vanille: Ravager - 2, Medic - 2, Saboteur - 3
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I know, stupid bump/double post. But it's my topic :P
Any tips on beating Barthandelus?
I'm using Lightning, Hope, and Vanille.
Lighting: Commando - 3, Ravager - 3, Medic - 2
Hope: Ravager - 3, Synergist - 2, Medic 3
Vanille: Ravager - 2, Medic - 2, Saboteur - 3
Go with Fang, Lighting Hope.
Use slow goodies.
Use Lighting and Hope to deal the elemental damage.
Hope got Protect and Shell and it helps a lot.
Make fang Sentinel when he starts spamming his specials to reduce the necessary healing so you can get back on track with filling that staggering bar. You'll need a commander to keep the bar up either way.
Diversity, Delta attack(I think), Bully and the COM-RAV-RAV got me through the battle
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Pfft, here's what I did.
I used a shrode (the one that gives you protect, ect.) and used Lightning, Sazh and Vanille. Cast Librascope, and kill the armor first. Have Sazh casts his faith, bravery, ect and it REALLY helps if he has haste.
Once the armor is gone, the attacks change so have Vanille as medic (don't bother changing her) and Sazh, Lightning can be ravager. Once you stagger him, switch to commando and keep attacking. After a while he'll cast doom on your party leader, so better be quick.
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I came real close with my set-up today. My finger just wasn't fast enough on the Salvation Paradigm (MED-MED-MED). Stupid Destrudo...
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Why would you need MED-MED-MED though? All he does after Destrudo is his ruin in baptism right? It shouldn't be a threat. Throw in a Sentinel to take the hits there if it is a problem, a MED to heal 'em up and put Lighting on RAV duty to get that staggering up again. The staggering bar goes *poof* when he uses destrudo either way.
I think I managed to heal up to full life again and all that with Diversity. It's such a shame Fang can't be RAV though.
Also, yes using Sazh as SYN is a great help in this battle, problem is just that he can't MED like Hope and Vanille.
Sometimes defense is your best offensive.
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[spoiler]They get all the roles in the next chapter (10).[/spoiler]
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[spoiler]They get all the roles in the next chapter (10).[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I know. But not in that battle and it's a shame. The whole Bravery, Faith and Haste on him are awesome. Too expensive to learn the other chars a great ability combo like that. 4k for one nod... pfffffffffffffff[/spoiler]
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I KNOW! I'm currently training my *** off in 11. It's ridiculous ><
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I KNOW! I'm currently training my *** off in 11. It's ridiculous ><
Chap 11 and training spoiler:
[spoiler]Same here, good stuff at expensive prices. Your own 3 main roles costs 4k, 6k, 8k and 10k ON THE SAME STAGE! I'm glad I managed to reach all those ATB increasers. Good thing they added those Missions though. 200x better than the one in FFXII[/spoiler]
I just realized that there is a world map if you click the Square button.
It's really useful once you get to chap 11 and get to move around A LOT more than you could previously.
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Chap 11 and training spoiler:
[spoiler]Same here, good stuff at expensive prices. Your own 3 main roles costs 4k, 6k, 8k and 10k ON THE SAME STAGE! I'm glad I managed to reach all those ATB increasers. Good thing they added those Missions though. 200x better than the one in FFXII[/spoiler]
I just realized that there is a world map if you click the Square button.
It's really useful once you get to chap 11 and get to move around A LOT more than you could previously.
LOL that is the most useful thing ever. xD And I agree with your spoiler.
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So, I finished the game today, the ending was so and so. The last boss were assy.
But it still beats FFXII million times over.
Grindin' and stuff so I can complete the titan's challenge and the quests. Friggin hard quests with monsters that kill you over one misstake.
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FFXII wasn't that bad, guys. Not my favorite but not the worst. That is held up to something like... FF8? Yeah FF8, IMO. Anywho...
I was really against FFXIII at first. Since 2004, I hated it... until 2 years ago. I just gained an interest for it. I haven't played it, but I watched a lot of it on youtube and I'm REALLY interested in playing such a game. Though, I don't like the battle system. But the game's character's are SO fantastically constructed! I love them all!
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But the game's character's are SO fantastically constructed! I love them all!
Seem rather... generic to me. O_o
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They are. They're rehashes.
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Only neat character is Sazh, the other are old characters with new looks and name.
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They aren't generic. If you haven't seen the whole game, then you shouldn't be talking. This FF actually brings it's chars together, unlike the other ones. They aren't generic at all. And if you say generic, then every video game char is generic.
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And if you say generic, then every video game char is generic.
Ehe, no.
From the character designs, this seems like the basic template that Enix has been using since VII.
I haven't played it yet, but the characters all seem to fit the stock personalities so far.
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They aren't generic. If you haven't seen the whole game, then you shouldn't be talking. This FF actually brings it's chars together, unlike the other ones. They aren't generic at all. And if you say generic, then every video game char is generic.
Again I played the game. They're the damn reason why I am saying they're generic and rehashes of old characters.
And I whole heartly concurr with fruckfert 99.97%.
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Close to the 4th chapter and I am bored again already. All I've been doing is hold the control stick up and press A while I eat my sammich.
Also, I had read and heard vanille was annoying in English as well. BUT MAN! Her English voice is more annoying than her Japanese one. She's perky AND annoying.
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Also, I had read and heard vanille was annoying in English as well. BUT MAN! Her English voice is more annoying than her Japanese one. She's perky AND annoying.
This has been true of at least one character in every RPG ever since they started giving them voices. Rikku, especially in FFX-2, looking at you...
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Game is way easy. Only thing I am having difficult with right now is that damn Naochu or wahtever is called in one of the Titan's quests. I been doing some missions before heading to chapter 12 ( I want to get the growth egg) so i can max out my stats when i clear chapter 12. Right now I have the three main ones for each character maxed out, with Lightning's and Fang's weapons maxed 2nd tier. (including the ones you get after beating ch. 11's boss which btw was a push over).
Also i got to give props to the game on something. THE CHOCOBO THING IS FUN XD I just love the music for when you're on it; so jazzy and happy. I hadn't had the chance to get it on the Japanese version cuz I didn't understand much of the mission's objectives, but man.. I can't get that damn achievement though.
Anyway, i am writing a review when I finish the game and get some more achievements. So far though it's still the same experience; weird wash down story, annoying characters, linear gamelpay, LINEAR WALLS, save spot in every corner. And waay too easy. Xept for Naochu.
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YOu passed me?! YOU GO SOMEWHERE! NOW! >:( ;.;
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I got it shortly after it came out, but ahahaa. . . . I've had no time, and when I do, I'm too out of it to think straight.
It's good so far, but I dunno. The camera angles are weirding me out.
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YOu passed me?! YOU GO SOMEWHERE! NOW! >:( ;.;
XD I am still on chapter 11. So move your butt, cuz I am waiting :P How far in ch 11 are you, or how far ahve you gotten before you realized that you needed to get stronger?
I got it shortly after it came out, but ahahaa. . . . I've had no time, and when I do, I'm too out of it to think straight.
It's good so far, but I dunno. The camera angles are weirding me out.
Yeah at times it bothers me too. Specially when I try to sneak up on enemies; doesn't always let me see them.
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It doesn't help that on my older TV, half the menus are near impossible to read. Stupid new systems, built for televisions younger than 15 years *shakes fist*
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It doesn't help that on my older TV, half the menus are near impossible to read. Stupid new systems, built for televisions younger than 15 years *shakes fist*
Oh! That's another one. BIG pet peeve. God good very good observation Phayre.
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It doesn't help that on my older TV, half the menus are near impossible to read. Stupid new systems, built for televisions younger than 15 years *shakes fist*
My TV is less than 10 years old and I still can't read a thing on ANY game I play on my 360 :P
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I went into a hidden mine to train cuz I'm sure the water Fal'Cei will whip my ***. D:
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The joke there is that my TV is freaking ancient. Actually might be older than I am, now that I think about it. It's at least 15 years old, but we got it used back then XD
But yeah, I'm having the same problem with all the games for my PS3. It's fine to /look/ better on a nice new TV, but to be nearly unplayable? That fails hard.
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I'm sure the water Fal'Cei will whip my ***. D:
[spoiler]You don't fight bismark[/spoiler]
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[spoiler]You don't fight bismark[/spoiler]
Who's that? What water fal'cie? What? I might've not payed attention, but I only remember going to the tower after the mine, and then fighting something you encounter around there.
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Who's that? What water fal'cie? What? I might've not payed attention, but I only remember going to the tower after the mine, and then fighting something you encounter around there.
It's in the Sayyia Springs(sp), an event when you go close to the water.
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I remember an event... but tht was when something happens with vanille and the gang
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I remember an event... but tht was when something happens with vanille and the gang
If you go to the west at the cliffy thing that have like 5 froggies there is a ledge. Down that ledge looking at the water you see these circles on the surface. Inspect them and there will be a cutscene with [spoiler]Bismark where the characters state that they should try to kill it. It dives and make more ugly fishcreatures appear as well as frogs on 2 platforms with "chests". To be honest, I never heard of it again since then and I've completed all but one Mark.[/spoiler].
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Alright I just finished the game. On the ending: The last 7 minutes were heart touching, but the 20 minutes + battles before that were garbage.
I felt the last 7 minutes of the ending were totally unrelated to the 20-30 minutes before that. In fact I was expecting the ending to be something else from what was happening, but it's not like there was a twist, it just... well let's put it this way: Instead of expecting Arthur to pull out the sword out of the stone with his hands, he broke the stone with a high tech Bazooka. That's how I saw the ending. It was cool but it had no trail what it was supposed to happen.
Well.. Imma write a review soon. And it shall be heard!
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[spoiler]why are you all playing this tripe[/spoiler]
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Me, for the critique. In order to say it's bad I would have had to play it, say the fan boys... and girls.
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Sad part about FFXIII.
There's no real replay value.
FFXIII is one of those games you could expect a difficulty setting in. It's that much far off the original series.
Anyway. There is actually little to do after clearing the last boss of the game. You have the Missions, but I think they are just 55 of them. And all of them are "Go there, kill the monster and get a really shitty reward".
For some of these missions you need an insane amount of DPS(damage per second for those of you uneducated) and defense. The last mission is the proof of that.
And to get better damage and defense - you need to upgrade and level up your weapons. And to do that you need spoils. And most spoils give shitty exp - so you buy spoils from the shop that gives good exp. Also, to upgrade your weapon you need special items that are really expensive.
And you don't get money from battles, no sir. You might get some spoils. And most spoils you find - you sell for either 10 or 40 gil a piece. To buy the item that for example makes your Axis Blade the upgraded version you'll need like 200.000gil. Oh yeah.
So I'm done with this game now. I've leveled my characters to max, I completed all the missions even with a 5 star ranking(thank you gold watch) and there's honestly nothing else left to do in the game for me now. If I want to defeat the ridiculously hard Long Gui or Shaulong Gui I'll need to max all my accessories or something 'cuz their damage and hp is a friggin joke.
Btw, for you trophy people. I never got the "felled a heavyweight of the lower world", "Held every item in the game" or the bottom one that's just a "???".
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Use Vanille's death on the Long Gui. Treasure hunter is the hardest because you can be locked out of it (meaning if you missed an item in the earlier stages of the game, you would ahve to start a whole new game), and is that " ??? " Superstar?
And totally random unrelated thing: Since when is Mid an administrator? Or am I just late in noticing things.
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Use Vanille's death on the Long Gui. Treasure hunter is the hardest because you can be locked out of it (meaning if you missed an item in the earlier stages of the game, you would ahve to start a whole new game), and is that " ??? " Superstar?
And totally random unrelated thing: Since when is Mid an administrator? Or am I just late in noticing things.
First, I'm pretty sure both the Long Gui and the Shaulong Gui is immune to death. Unfortunately. The adamanchild, adamantoise and adamantortoise however are not. Go us! (PS neither is the Neoochu so you can get the growth egg quite early in the game)
And yeah, I checked what trophy it is and it's superstar, and I never manage to get a full star ranking on that there thing. Not even with the Golden watch.
And also, no idea when Mid got administrator but she tends to get things she want. She's just that awesome.
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She's been an admin for like a year. We were bored one day so I made her an admin.
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Ninja-mod!
Is it just me, or does that happen frequently around here?
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<<... I SEE HOW MUCH YOU GUYS CARE ;.;... Gawd. I've been one for ages D:
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I honestly do not recall.
But that's probably because I was but a wee noob when that happened.
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by black-guy-with-baby-chocobo.
y u gotta be callin by colors. i bet if it was a white guy u wouldn't hav sead nufin..
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Anyways, why the hell are there so many FF games?
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I got a 4 star on the last battle the first time, I had like 11800 points. I had no idea what to do like at the first 20 seconds.
<<... I SEE HOW MUCH YOU GUYS CARE ;.;... Gawd. I've been one for ages D:
Just to show how much... or... less, you do around here :P
I honestly do not recall.
But that's probably because I was but a wee noob when that happened.
Does that really mean you've evolved?
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No, it just means I'm a big noob now.
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There really isn't much to do around here. D:
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Tragic!
Anyway, after a month of playing the game I finally finished everything there was to do. I say it was well worth the 25 bucks I paid. Now though unless there's a DLC coming (which square enix have said that have absolutely no plans for it), I don't need the crap anymore. I wonder if gamestop would give 25 dllrs for it; I wanna get SSF4, or get L4D2 back
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Sell it on eBay or Amazon or something. Stores give terrible trade-in prices.
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Anyway, after a month of playing the game I finally finished everything there was to do. I say it was well worth the 25 bucks I paid. Now though unless there's a DLC coming (which square enix have said that have absolutely no plans for it), I don't need the crap anymore. I wonder if gamestop would give 25 dllrs for it; I wanna get SSF4, or get L4D2 back
Yeah, same here, except I won't sell/give it away. It's a part of my heritage to the future.
Oh, and I never finished the treasure hunter thingy. It's just meaningless grinding to finish that one. And all you get for doing things in FFXIII is trophies. Nothing in-game which is a shame. No feeling of satisfaction.
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You get a gamer picture... I am not sure what you PS3 ppl get as equivalent to that; also the Japanese version had an Ultimate Hero trophy when you completed every other trophy, does this version have that too?
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You get a gamer picture... I am not sure what you PS3 ppl get as equivalent to that; also the Japanese version had an Ultimate Hero trophy when you completed every other trophy, does this version have that too?
A Ps3 theme, yeah... wohoo!
And yes, I think there's an ultimate hero platinum trophy or something. But I don't really care about that. I've done all I think is worth doing with the game.
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Um... they're in the talks of making a part 2. <<
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No. What they're doing is releasing a bunch of games with the title "Final Fantasy XIII: Something Something"; there's like 2 of them coming out in Japan, 1 for the PSP and another for PS3; I am not sure what dates though. They've said they want this title (not game itself but the title) to last on for a bit of like 5 to 10 years. That's just crazy.
I bet this is due to the whole " WE HAD TO CUT CONTENT OFF IN ORDER TO RESELL IT FOR MILK MONEY" thing.
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... << dude I WANT MORE LIGHTNING
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It won't be Lighting it'll be this guy:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/Final_Fantasy_XIII_Versus.jpg)
While in the subject, that particular FFXIII game is set in modern time like ours on FFXIII's world.
BTW, I hate Lightning's nickname, is her name really a spoiler ? It's mentioned once in the game and it's like a "meh" moment.
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BTW, I hate Lightning's nickname, is her name really a spoiler ? It's mentioned once in the game and it's like a "meh" moment.
It's a very meh moment since they just throw it in from nowhere with no good reason at all, the thing that should be snows reward were just thrown at his face for ****.
And they asked some of the makers if they wanted to make a sequel of FFXIII and they said that they were positive of the idea.
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Of course they're positive. They're gonna wait to see how well it goes with other FFXIII titles first, and after they see mula, they gonna milk the cow some more.
And bah, it's not really like it has a meaning to the story anyway, in fact it doesn't. I won't say it, but it goes PRE-TTY well with Redfield. To tell you the truth I am surprised they used an actual good name for her as well As Serah (meant to be Sarah but less generic). Snow, Hope, Vanille, Fang and even Sazh (somewhat), are weird and stupid names. In fact everybody else in the game has weird names... well looking it from a different perspective the Farrens must be weirdos
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[spoiler]CLAIRE GAWD SPOILER TAGS FOR A REASON =P[/spoiler]
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Not like I'll ruin the game's story or important plots.. or any of them :P Buy seriously, doesn't that sound x1000 better than Lightning ? In fact if I ever have a female child I'll name her that way. It's an awesome name.