Dinosaurs in the bible...

[PyroAlchemist]

Originally posted by Drace

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Originally posted by PyroAlchemist well I'm atheiaticomnist which means I don't believe in god or gods but I do believe in certain parts of different religions. Like one is I believe in karma.

I'm an atheistcommunist too then. My good karma rocks your socks.

Awwww.... everyone ignoring my post

lol alright then. communism is bad but still. thats cool.

[Osmose]

Well the telescopes that can see billions of lightyears away are RADIOmicroscopes. Hubble is the one that can see the farthest in the visual spectrum, the one that we can actually see in pictures, and they use that for just what you're talking about - they've mentioned sighting and observation of nearby solar systems, but remember that Hubble is in orbit around the planet, and the oppourtunity to get a clear shot of the same place is very slim each day. It'd take a long time to actually get a detailed set of pictures of a single point even nearby.

[drenrin2120]

Originally posted by Osmose
Well the telescopes that can see billions of lightyears away are RADIOmicroscopes. Hubble is the one that can see the farthest in the visual spectrum, the one that we can actually see in pictures, and they use that for just what you're talking about - they've mentioned sighting and observation of nearby solar systems, but remember that Hubble is in orbit around the planet, and the oppourtunity to get a clear shot of the same place is very slim each day. It'd take a long time to actually get a detailed set of pictures of a single point even nearby.

Ahh... I see, well ain't that the suxxorz.

[Sephiroth rocks]

You can determine the age of the universe (however it's not exactly 15 billion years as prevously mentioned), this is from wikipedia:

 

NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) project estimates the age of the universe to be:

    (13.7 ± 0.2) × 109 years.

That is, the universe is about 13.7 billion years old, with an uncertainty of 200 million years. However, this age is based on the assumption that the project's underlying model is correct; other methods of estimating the age of the universe could give different ages.

This measurement is made by using the location of the first acoustic peak in the microwave background power spectrum to determine the size of the decoupling surface (size of universe at the time of recombination). The light travel time to this surface (depending on the geometry used) yields a pretty good age for the universe. Assuming the validity of the models used to determine this age, the residual accuracy yields a margin of error near one percent.

[Red XIII]

About the Bible thing........
I´m Catholic, and (As someone in this post said) we believe that the bible should be read simbolically understanding the meaning behind what it says (Like when it talks about the Hand of God, or about God´s fury).

I´ve never read, in the Bible, that the Sun moved around the Earth, or that the Earth was the centre of the Universe. that theory was created by Aristoteles (Don´t know how to write it i n English, he was a Greek Philosofer) and later, in the middle age, was addopted by the Church to support certain theories.
The Bible doesn´t deny evolution either. It doesn´t mention it, but it never says it doesn´t happen.

Now, about the Genesis: I think that the concept of "days" corresponds to ages. And the man came at the end. Dinosaurs had time to be born, to grow and extinct before.

Also, science CAN measure the age of dinosaur bones and attempt to calculate the age of the Universe.
Think about Galileo, people!!!

[Spike21]

well the original hebrew manuscript say "24 hour day" literaly

[Solstacefaerie]

I'm a Christian, and I know that dinosaurs came before man.
In the Bible, it says specifiacally that all creatures of the sea, air, and land came BEFORE man, and that includes dinosaurs too. It also mentions the liaviathan (not correct spelling, methinks) and other such monsterous creatures, a.k.a dinosaurs, many times in the old testimate. So, yes, the Bible DOES talk about dinosaurs.

As to my belief, the dinosaurs did not, in fact, die before man came into the picture. Mostly they died out in the flood, along with everyone else that wasn't on the ark. That is why often times their remains are found buried in layers and layers of rock, which most atribute to the ice age, when, in fact, the flood of the Bible could have done the very same thing.

If you have questions about the Bible, I will be happy to answer them!  

[Desimodontidae]

Uhh... how ahout my question, which still remains for the most part unanswered, if slightly modified from it's original version.

Modern science tells us that humans and dinosaurs did NOT live in the same time period. Yet the bible does. Was it God's will to change the laws of nature as we developed techniques to figure it out? Either way, one of the stories isn't correct, and science is pretty hard to prove wrong...

[SonicChaos7]

If you take away the time shift of Desius and the galactic movement of Xenova XVII, you can figure out when dinosaurs pooped each other out.

[Razor]

Originally posted by Desimodontidae
Uhh... how ahout my question, which still remains for the most part unanswered, if slightly modified from it's original version.

Modern science tells us that humans and dinosaurs did NOT live in the same time period. Yet the bible does. Was it God's will to change the laws of nature as we developed techniques to figure it out? Either way, one of the stories isn't correct, and science is pretty hard to prove wrong...

2nded. =p

[Drace]

Originally posted by PyroAlchemist

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Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by PyroAlchemist well I'm atheiaticomnist which means I don't believe in god or gods but I do believe in certain parts of different religions. Like one is I believe in karma. I'm an atheistcommunist too then. My good karma rocks your socks. Awwww.... everyone ignoring my post

lol alright then. communism is bad but still. thats cool.

It's a wordjoke ffs... -_-'

[Kinslayer]

Originally posted by Desimodontidae

Modern science tells us that humans and dinosaurs did NOT live in the same time period. Yet the bible does.

You loose a little detail. The Genesis text is allegoric. The point of putting the creation in seven days is a mere concept that should not be taken lightly. The Bible doesn't "say" things, it has to be correctly read, and you are the one that has to get the conclusions out, because it is a meaningful text. The days could mean ages if you look at it technically, remember that the number 7 simbolizes the perfect, it is quite the strong number for believers.

By the way... could you tell me in which part of the text does say the word "dinosaur"? Just curious :p

And science has been proved wrong, everytime that scientists say that nuclear energy is safe, or when a technical mistake makes a bomb explode on it's own (it has happened). Science is the human's workship, so it should not be taken as something perfect.

Or are we, the humans, perfect enough to make something that can't be mistaken?