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Offline Desimodontidae

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Dinosaurs in the bible...
« on: May 03, 2006, 01:13:02 AM »
So I was thinking... and if God supposedly created man, then how do christians explain the fact that dinosaurs lived before humans? Just a quandary...
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2006, 01:17:28 AM »
They say "day" is just a metaphore. Meaning, each day took millions of years, and the dinosaurs just happened to die durring the 5th day.
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2006, 01:21:37 AM »
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They say "day" is just a metaphore. Meaning, each day took millions of years, and the dinosaurs just happened to die durring the 5th day.


That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2006, 01:23:14 AM »
This is kind of under debate. IF you talk to what I like to call a CRP (crazy religous person) than they will give you some answer that makes no sense.

If you talk to an intelligent christian, you will learn that some believe that Dinosaurs did infact exist before people. It's believed they lived on earth in the time before people were created.

NOw, you're prolly wondering, wait, so they only lived a few days?

However, in the bible it says that our sense of time, and God's sense of time, are incredibly different. A couple hours to us is like a thousand years to him. So the bible says seven days, and to God it prolly was 7 days, to us, it could be hundreds of thousands of years.

Well, it's up to you to believe that or not... however.

Be warned, do not provoke fights about Religion on the internet, or real life. I answered you calmly, but many people will take offense at this. Quite frankly, let's face it, you posted this as a way to provoke a fight. Please, just don't do stuff like this.
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2006, 01:40:52 AM »
The Bible, especially the Old Testament, were written to be stories for the people to learn about why things are a certain way.  The dinosaurs were not part of these ancient people's lives, so they had no purpose in this story for them.  From what I've learned in my Scriptures class, the Bible is not meant to be taken literally, but rather metaphorically, so the stories can relate to the lives of the people who read them.
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2006, 01:49:30 AM »
I am Christian, and I do believe Dinosaurs existed. Read the very beggining of the Bible. Perhaps you can theorize what I have. And I do also think dinosaurs existed when man was created. But all these are my theories.

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This is kind of under debate. IF you talk to what I like to call a CRP (crazy religous person) than they will give you some answer that makes no sense.

If you talk to an intelligent christian, you will learn that some believe that Dinosaurs did infact exist before people. It's believed they lived on earth in the time before people were created.

NOw, you're prolly wondering, wait, so they only lived a few days?

However, in the bible it says that our sense of time, and God's sense of time, are incredibly different. A couple hours to us is like a thousand years to him. So the bible says seven days, and to God it prolly was 7 days, to us, it could be hundreds of thousands of years.

Well, it's up to you to believe that or not... however.

Be warned, do not provoke fights about Religion on the internet, or real life. I answered you calmly, but many people will take offense at this.


Indeed, I agreed mostly with that, specially in the time sequence, but I do still believe dinosaurs existed when man was created. And true, do not post in here if you can't argue decently.

And thanks Glitch. ;) Just dont jump to conclusions.

And I don't think that dinosaurs lived in the past is actually a fact yet. EDIT: I take that back to wonder the definition of dinosaurs through everyone.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2006, 01:57:56 AM »
Yeah, I gotta admit that I've never been entirely sure if they actualy were there when people were created, I suppose it prolly doesn't have a big effect on the grand scale of things, but it's still one of those things that bugs you in the back of your mind.

No problem, and I'll try not to.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2006, 01:58:02 AM »
Maybe they mean the god telling them what to do is like the little voices talking in your head while you're drinking and spilling coke all over myself watching TV.

Maybe not.

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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2006, 02:03:38 AM »
You have to remember, the complete bible is 1000s of years old. Bits were left out or added as the writer saw fit. Somewhere there may be a lost passage about Jesus sister.
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2006, 02:04:57 AM »
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Maybe they mean the god telling them what to do is like the little voices talking in your head while you're drinking and spilling coke all over myself watching TV.


I completely have no idea what you are talking about.

 
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Yeah, I gotta admit that I've never been entirely sure if they actualy were there when people were created, I suppose it prolly doesn't have a big effect on the grand scale of things, but it's still one of those things that bugs you in the back of your mind.

No problem, and I'll try not to.


I never put much thought into it, except that day that I put myself to wonder about it. I asked my father about it, who is generally balanced on the theory on dinosaurs, but went on giving me a lesson on something else.

But yeah I don't think it makes much difference, some people (christian and non-christian) don't even believe there was dinosaurs at all. So this pretty much comes down on the belief on dinosaurs rather than being christian in a whole scale.

But since it involves both, I gave my answer... I think.

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You have to remember, the complete bible is 1000s of years old. Bits were left out or added as the writer saw fit. Somewhere there may be a lost passage about Jesus sister.


Is not lost; it's in there =P it talks about his brothers too (2 I think, or it didn't mention forgot)  in some point.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2006, 02:13:08 AM »
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Maybe they mean the god telling them what to do is like the little voices talking in your head while you're drinking and spilling coke all over myself watching TV.


I completely have no idea what you are talking about.

 
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Yeah, I gotta admit that I've never been entirely sure if they actualy were there when people were created, I suppose it prolly doesn't have a big effect on the grand scale of things, but it's still one of those things that bugs you in the back of your mind.

No problem, and I'll try not to.


I never put much thought into it, except that day that I put myself to wonder about it. I asked my father about it, who is generally balanced on the theory on dinosaurs, but went on giving me a lesson on something else.

But yeah I don't think it makes much difference, some people (christian and non-christian) don't even believe there was dinosaurs at all. So this pretty much comes down on the belief on dinosaurs rather than being christian in a whole scale.

But since it involves both, I gave my answer... I think.

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You have to remember, the complete bible is 1000s of years old. Bits were left out or added as the writer saw fit. Somewhere there may be a lost passage about Jesus sister.


Is not lost; it's in there =P it talks about his brothers too (2 I think, or it didn't mention forgot)  in some point.


Well, you get the point XD For all we know there was an old passage detailing the dinosaurs and their creation, but because they were no longer around, some author down the line decided to remove it in his version.
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2006, 02:19:03 AM »
Don't know, could be. Like Tomi said, it wasn't that imporant perhaps to be passed down by those inspired to write.

A lot of animals in the Bible are mention as plain "beasts" or something like that in English. (I've only read the Bible in Spanish, but I am sure "bestias" is "beasts" in English) so we don't know for sure if many of those "beasts" were dinosaurs or not.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2006, 02:20:17 AM »
See, I think that the writing of the Bible found it unimportant to mention dinosaurs. They're dead and gone, right? What good are they? Honestly, I think that dinosaurs were sort of a "rough draft" of what life should be like. But things didn't turn out well, so God offed his errored project and started anew. And evolution? It's real. It IS a part of intelligent design! Anything God overlooked is to be able to repair itself. Smart. Of course, I think that this is right because I've been contemplating this notion since I was five. I think too much to really enjoy life, I've discovered. God, I'm depressed...
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2006, 02:26:10 AM »
I doubt also in the past they would call these creatures "dinosaurs".

Maybe they DID mention them, but is not mentioned in the sense to understood; going back to the whole "beasts" thing.

However they did know what a dragon and lizards and other scaled living things were. For it is made reference to them in some part.
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2006, 02:44:55 AM »
That whole different time thing just sounds like a lazy excise. Kind of how I hate when lazy scientists give the answer "infinite" to everything. But anyways...

I just read from a christian site ( http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/2.asp ) that said Dinosaurs and humans co-existed in biblical time. They were even on the ark. It has references to the actual bible verses.  Now Noah's ark was what, no more than a few thousand years? But dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago. Their argument is as follows:

 
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The story we have all heard from movies, television, newspapers, and most magazines and textbooks is that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. According to evolutionists, the dinosaurs ‘ruled the Earth’ for 140 million years, dying out about 65 million years ago. However, scientists do not dig up anything labeled with those ages. They only uncover dead dinosaurs (i.e., their bones), and their bones do not have labels attached telling how old they are. The idea of millions of years of evolution is just the evolutionists’ story about the past. No scientist was there to see the dinosaurs live through this supposed dinosaur age. In fact, there is no proof whatsoever that the world and its fossil layers are millions of years old. No scientist observed dinosaurs die. Scientists only find the bones in the here and now, and because many of them are evolutionists, they try to fit the story of the dinosaurs into their view.


From that, I get they're trying to say that modern science can't prove the dinosaurs died out that long ago because they didn't see it happening. First of all, we have a little process called "carbon-14 dating" they seem to be dodging. This basically proves the above theory wrong, seeing as how no human and dinosaur's approxamate age's are even close. Second, there are tons of things we have proved even though we can't see them. Like waves for example. Sound, EM, etc. We can't SEE these things, but we know they happen, right?

Of course, if you read that article, it's extremly biased, condescending, and somewhat mocking "evolutionary scientists" as they would put it. But it still contains the biblical information.
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