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Offline Cerebus

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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2013, 05:02:59 AM »
I managed to deal with the crappy community by playing with bots.
They'll never complain about any bad moves you may make nor do they whine about losing. Plus, I can build whatever item I want, play any character I want, play the way I want. The only real inconvenient is that bots aren't really smart some times and don't do stuff players would normally do, and you'll never get any real team fight. But between whiny asses and dumb bots, I'll choose the bots.

Friends would probably be better, but I don't really have any that play LoL.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2013, 05:08:27 AM by Cerebus »
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2013, 02:17:50 PM »
I'm doing the same thing Cerb. After a disasterous match that put my mostly newbie team against 4 level 70+s (for comparison, the "good" player on my team was level 14) and we lost (though admittedly didn't lose 100% TOO hard - we had a decent thing going until midgame) we decided that playing against other players was bullshit and to bot it up until we all felt comfortable trying players again. Which may be never. But the bot games are still fun cuz its fun to play with friends period.
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2013, 03:31:21 PM »
Alternatively you can also close your chatbox and mute all the players.

As a rule of thumb whenever I play a game like CoD or LoL I just mute/block/ignore EVERYONE. I find it a much more pleasant experience. They can scream till their lungs burst and they can pound their keyboards until their fingers fall off, I'll be perfectly oblivious to it all. :D

Of course the downside is that sometimes these jackasses use the "report a player" option, because apparently ignoring them is a sin. _sweat_
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2013, 04:45:34 PM »
Failure to communicate in a game that requires high levels of teamwork is a negative contribution to the game, so yeah, it's a semi-legitimate report. It doesn't really matter, though, as moderators can easily see if you've blocked communications for a good reason or if you're simply ignoring team commands (which basically adds up to feeding the enemy team kills).
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2013, 06:37:12 PM »
I'm more bothered by crushing losses against drastically superior opponents than I am about trash talk. At this point, nobody can say anything on the internet that can actually hurt me. But I would like to try a good matchup, and I'm just not good at the game enough yet to perform against people that have been playing for the past few years solid.
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2013, 06:44:08 PM »
I've been on a horrible losing streak recently, and it's making it hard for me to want to play. My losses are out of control, and while my teammates are frequently responsible for making horrible plays and decisions, I've been unable to pull it together on my end as well. I'm kind of getting psyched out by the stress of trying to break my bad streak.

I'll get over it eventually.
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2013, 08:00:49 PM »
i don't like team based games
The exception to this is if I'm playing with friends or if it's a local multiplayer thing (which is annoyingly rare these days).
It's a crippling inability to communicate thing, for me.
Also I'm SO noncompetitive it's kind of sad.
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2013, 08:52:14 PM »
I love team-based games because the weight of success doesn't lie exclusively on my shoulders. In a more casual situation where personal ability can directly affect the outcome of a game (FPSes), it means that I'm free to crush the opposition at my own speed while the team does their best to look as good as me. It also means I can goof off a bit or have a bad match and have the team pick up the slack. In MOBAs, that's not quite the same, as instead of having a few successful players leading the team to success, the entire team has to be successful and coordinated. It's pretty uncommon for a single player to be able to carry the entire team, so if even one person isn't working with the team to secure that goal, it falls through.

I guess what I'm saying is that heavily team-oriented games are the ones where you need to be competitive, but most team games are just a way of having others support you.
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2013, 09:26:50 PM »
I love team based games only if I know the people that are on my team...
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2013, 10:10:47 PM »
Quote from: SaiKar on August 07, 2013, 06:37:12 PM
I'm more bothered by crushing losses against drastically superior opponents than I am about trash talk. At this point, nobody can say anything on the internet that can actually hurt me. But I would like to try a good matchup, and I'm just not good at the game enough yet to perform against people that have been playing for the past few years solid.

Yeah, there's that. I'm not really good and I'm usually teamed up with people of equal skills, but against people who are better. The results were often not fun. Dying continuously and knowing you're hindering your team makes the game unpleasant. having the whole team dying continuously without any hope of winning is also very unpleasant.
And same as you, good luck saying something that actually offends me. But the attitude is still very annoying and often contributes to a lost. Saw my brother playing with someone who kept doing stupid crap but who kept blaming every other players, noticing every single mistake they made (although he made several more) and continuously saying "gg we lost" while initiating a surrender every time he could. I wasn't even playing on that game and found him really annoying, and would have found the game quite non-enjoyable had I been in it. It's just annoying. And as been pointed out by Archem, blocking communication can contribute to a loss more than negative attitude. Even whiny arses can eventually do good moves assuming the team follow them. Ignoring someone cancels the slight potential of such things happening.
Another thing that some will do is purposely play like crap or just go AFK, which in most cases ensure a defeat. It really is a crappy community.

Bots never complain and I rarely lose against bots. When I do, it's usually because I've played carelessly. But if I do get a loss, it's never a crushing one, so it's not as unpleasant. Just wish they'd be a little better on teamwork, but oh well.

I'm usually not really fond of team-based games because a single person's mistake is often unforgivable, whereas in other game, you can still win by a large margin despite having 2 unskilled players. But somehow, I really like LoL. Kinda wish I had more real life friends who played it, as it could possibly encourage me to try online once in a while, but oh well.
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2013, 10:20:14 PM »
ARAM is a pretty fun mode in LoL. As the name suggests (or did back before it became official), everyone gets a random character and gets thrown into a single lane. Since everyone has a random character, nobody really gets mad if you're bad. They'll still get on you for not focusing the squishy damage dealers, but you should be able to figure that out. Also, since the game is in a constant state of team fight (and because everyone starts at level 3), the games are shorter, so you don't have to sit through a 50 minute loss. It's great for learning new characters, great for learning to play against human players, and great for skipping the fluff and getting straight into the action. Since teamwork is minimized, it's also a good mode for you if you like to mute all the other players.

I've been playing lots of it recently. Helps me practice and relieve some stress from my constant stream of losses in regular matches.
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #56 on: August 07, 2013, 10:31:30 PM »
Ah, yes, ARAM. I tried it a bit. Pretty much the only mode where mistakes are forgiven, because you can blame it on random factor; you may end up with a character you absolutely don't know and aren't good with or the team may simply be really unbalanced.
It's fun, but it can be quite chaotic, and you can never really "rest" except when you're dead. I should play this game mode some times, though. A bit of "teamwork practice" (sort of) although it won't help me get better with ganking and stuff... Just a shame it doesn't add up to my "Win" stats. Looks kinda silly when you are matched up with people who are lower level than you but have 100+ victories when you only have 29 yourself...
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #57 on: August 07, 2013, 11:05:58 PM »
Quote from: Cerebus on August 07, 2013, 10:31:30 PM
Just a shame it doesn't add up to my "Win" stats. Looks kinda silly when you are matched up with people who are lower level than you but have 100+ victories when you only have 29 yourself...
ARAM is an official mode now, so it counts.
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2013, 11:08:56 PM »
Are you sure? I remember getting at least one victory in ARAM and I still have 29 wins. I guess I could try it again and hope for the best.
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Re: Any of you guys play MOBAs?
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2013, 08:56:15 AM »
Just downloaded Dota2 from steam, saw the championship on national tv and stuff (yeah we kinda do that in Sweden...), it was free and all. First thing that struck me is that sure they changed the models but you still see what Warcraft 3 character these were based on. Basically because they are the same characters as the original dota but still.

Yet revealed if I like it. These things tend to have steep learning.
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