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Do you agree with euthanasia, or assisted suicide?

Yes
12 (66.7%)
No
6 (33.3%)

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Offline Grandy

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« on: June 04, 2005, 07:56:37 PM »
 Euthanasia, the act of killing someone when they lives are worse than death, many time because they ask you to do it. Do you agree with this?
 I do.
 I think your life is the only think that is truly yours, you can put an end on it when you want, if you wnat, and in the way you want.
 But if you can't? If you can't move your arms, and want to die, 'cause your life is boring, you feel pain everywhere in your body, you can't eat, only survives because a doctor have to put vitamins in your arm, all what you can do is talk. And you ask the doctor to let you die.
 Its your right. Its your life. Its what you want him to do. But he won't. Why? Because he would be arrested. Why? Because he killed you. Why? Because you asked.
 Then you'll have to live with pain, suffering, hating your life until you can't talk, think, see, feel or listen. You KNOW death is better than that. But, in this case, your life isn't yours, bcause you can't choose anything.

 They stole your life.

 Thats my question, its not only about euthanasia, the question is:

  Until when is our lives truly ours?

 I would like to have the right to die.








 And you?
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2005, 08:02:21 PM »
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Then you'll have to live with pain, suffering, hating your life until you can't talk, think, see, feel or listen. You KNOW death is better than that.

Do you? Of course you don't. Unless you've died. Then you do.

It's an interesting issue, but suicide rarely has no effect on those around the... uh... suicidee. Though those fluent in futurama (I'm looking at you, Razor.) will be familiar with the "Suicide Booth". An idea for the future?
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2005, 08:05:11 PM »
Label it any way you want... "Mercy Killing", "Self-Defense", or "Euthanasia", its all the same... killing.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2005, 08:11:41 PM »
If ther person asked for it, then I guess I'm ok with it. Matters what their condition is.

If ther person is unable to ask for it, then leave them the **** alone. What if you were fine/perfectly happy but you just were immobile for a little while?
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2005, 08:20:09 PM »
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Label it any way you want... "Mercy Killing", "Self-Defense", or "Euthanasia", its all the same... killing.


 Euthanasia is when you WANT to dye, or it has been proved taht you'll not wake in the next 30 years(and you already has 80, so you'll die before you wake up anyway)
 
 There is a difference beetwen killing for fun or in self-defense.

 
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Do you? Of course you don't. Unless you've died. Then you do.


 Jesus already died and came back to say its better than here.

 Plus, what do you have to lose? You can't walk, smell, fell, listen, see, you're already dead.
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2005, 08:24:50 PM »
If they wish to die sure I'll do it quick give me a gun...(or whatever or method of death is...)


See you in whatever is after this! :frag:
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2005, 08:30:51 PM »
I didn't vote since I'm both yes and no. If you're in pain and in so bad condition that you can't even commit suicide then it'd probably be the best just to die, but on the other hand it's really difficult if not impossible to proof that the person asked you to kill him/her.
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2005, 09:30:21 PM »
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On the other hand it's really difficult if not impossible to proof that the person asked you to kill him/her.


You could just get it in writing, or videotaped if they can't write. But if they can't talk or write, then it would have to be up to the family. I don't think that the courts should be able to intervene in this situation, like in the Terry Schiavo case.
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2005, 10:07:05 PM »
It's probably best it wasn't up to the family in the Terry case, all they really cared about is getting some money from the husband who won a big lawsuit.
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2005, 10:47:01 PM »
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Label it any way you want... "Mercy Killing", "Self-Defense", or "Euthanasia", its all the same... killing.


Rare is the case where I agree with Asa XP but indeed.

I dunno though, if I saw someone suffering really really badly, that it was obvious they would die no matter what, then if I was asked.. I trully don't know. However if someone asks me to kill them, your a moron if you think I'll say 'yes' and go ahead. Example, if some guy lost a girlfirend and it's goes all psycho and wants me to kill him (even tho he can do it himself) I won't; neither i will nor let him kill himself. But sincerely I dun think I would, nor I think is healthy.
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2005, 11:16:25 PM »
I vote Yes. If a person is suffering and wants out of their misery, let them.
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2005, 11:46:58 PM »
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I didn't vote since I'm both yes and no. If you're in pain and in so bad condition that you can't even commit suicide then it'd probably be the best just to die, but on the other hand it's really difficult if not impossible to proof that the person asked you to kill him/her.
Thats why I think euthanasia should be legal. Then you could bring someone to see iut and proof you're innocent
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2005, 01:58:21 AM »
One of the latest Clint Eastwood movies was exactly about that. Was it Million Dollar Baby or the previous one? The movie clearly took a side on the subject and was generaly for euthanasia.
It's a touchy subject, that I feel a movie best helps us discuss about it, lol. I can see both sides of the medal, discussion at this point would be more important than having a firm stance on the subject.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2005, 02:15:40 AM »
I'm not for any type of killing. I only think it's necessary if it's the only option, but of course there are infinite amounts of options.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2005, 02:24:04 AM »
"Killing isn't everything, it's the only thing"
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