Getting Help on Charas

[Robotam]

Geez.. I so doesn't agree to any of this.. It's not about being popular or not. It's about knowing them and having they as your friends, I have never got help from someone I haven't talked to. The people who helps me is either my friends or huge fans.
But the huge fans would probably do anything to help anyone.

No one is made to help you, they have their own bussiness and their own choices. If you don't get help here then go to another place or try to get to know the guy before bombing him/her with requests.

..But yeah, there is something I agree about.. that if the admins or moderators would make a crappy charset some people would surely say it's good anyway, but that's the way it's always been and will always be.... sadly.

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

Originally posted by Robotam
Geez.. I so doesn't agree to any of this.. It's not about being popular or not. It's about knowing them and having they as your friends, I have never got help from someone I haven't talked to. The people who helps me is either my friends or huge fans.
But the huge fans would probably do anything to help anyone.

No one is made to help you, they have their own bussiness and their own choices. If you don't get help here then go to another place or try to get to know the guy before bombing him/her with requests.

..But yeah, there is something I agree about.. that if the admins or moderators would make a crappy charset some people would surely say it's good anyway, but that's the way it's always been and will always be.... sadly.

Amen. I mostly do requests from people who know how to ask them.

[Tomi]

 

Originally posted by Ace of Spades
If I can, I always try to help with a request, but I'm hardly good at anything, and I have my game to work on. I used to do map requests, but I stopped because I saw that many people were making a game, I made a map for that game, and then a few months later, they scrap that game. So I just got sick of doing map requests for the public, now if I do fulfil a request, it's for one of my friends. It's times like these that make me feel happy I got all of my requests done a while ago. But I do know what you're talking about, and it does suck for other members. I think that's one of the main things that goes through a request fulfiller's head though, nowadays. "In my mind, do I feel that this person will finish their game?" I know that's how I felt after awhile doing map requests.

Thats how I feel a lot of the time.  Sometimes I'll do poses for someone because I'm bored and/or I want to practice.  Plus, I have only posted one, maybe two, requests on charas and have done everything else myself.  And that makes me think that maybe, just maybe someone who is requesting is being lazy and wants everyone to make their game for them. (I know most the time that is not the case, but still)

[Lighting Half Dozen]

I Agree, I've had This many awsomre ideas for games: }---------------------------------------------------------------{

But everytime i just never get enough help. There should be like a sub charas the focuses on projects only.

[WarxePB]

If I could say one thing to all the people who request help on the Requests board, I would say "Don't rely on other people too much. Learn to help yourself."

[Dragonium]

Originally posted by Tomi

Thats how I feel a lot of the time.  Sometimes I'll do poses for someone because I'm bored and/or I want to practice.  Plus, I have only posted one, maybe two, requests on charas and have done everything else myself.  And that makes me think that maybe, just maybe someone who is requesting is being lazy and wants everyone to make their game for them. (I know most the time that is not the case, but still)

True, true. It's okay if a person makes a request or two, because sometimes, a certain pose or charset, no matter how simple it might seem, just becomes impossible. In those circumstances, you can either request, or go without, and the former's usually the better option.

But people who spam up the request thread with 20 requests at once, that's when we have to say "NO".

[WarxePB]

"I can't do it myself" is no excuse, unless you've honestly tried and failed. You all complain that no one wants to help you; have you actually tried it yourself? Even a crappy 5-color sprite is better than anything you get on the request board because you did it yourself.

[BlackIceAdept]

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
If I could say one thing to all the people who request help on the Requests board, I would say "Don't rely on other people too much. Learn to help yourself."

I agree I'm sick of requesting I'm just uses whats already made now and tweaking it a little... other than that its not that hard to customize a few resources...

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Even a crappy 5-color sprite is better than anything you get on the request board because you did it yourself.

And that my friends, is a spriter's proclamation.
Amen.

[CoolZidane]

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
"I can't do it myself" is no excuse, unless you've honestly tried and failed. You all complain that no one wants to help you; have you actually tried it yourself? Even a crappy 5-color sprite is better than anything you get on the request board because you did it yourself.

Yes. I have tried repeatedly to make sprites. The problem is that I fail to make anything other than a mess of pixels.

Look at it this way: People aren't able to do everything themselves. Some people make excellent battlecharsets, but completely suck when it comes to facesets. Some people make good facesets, yet music is a challenge to them.

It's like actors in a movie. You need more than one to make it work. And not just more than one, you need people with varying areas of expertise. Just like you need people who are good with graphics, story, or music, you need people who can play comedic, serious, and casual. Each one needs to be there for it to work.

[WarxePB]

CoolZidane
Yes. I have tried repeatedly to make sprites. The problem is that I fail to make anything other than a mess of pixels.

Did you even read what I said? Anything you make yourself is infinitely better than something you request. Even if your graphics suck, people will still respect you for trying. Even if your music is off-tune, people will still respect you for taking the time to compose it rather than requesting it. And those who say otherwise don't deserve to be saying anything, because they cannot recognize effort.

EDIT: CoolZidane, I've never actually seen any of your spriting work. If you can show me that you're a hopeless spriter that can't do anything at all, then I might ease up on you.

[CoolZidane]

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade

quote:

CoolZidane Yes. I have tried repeatedly to make sprites. The problem is that I fail to make anything other than a mess of pixels.

Did you even read what I said? Anything you make yourself is infinitely better than something you request. Even if your graphics suck, people will still respect you for trying. Even if your music is off-tune, people will still respect you for taking the time to compose it rather than requesting it. And those who say otherwise don't deserve to be saying anything, because they cannot recognize effort.

So you're saying you would be perfectly fine if I made a game where the main character was shapeless mass of pixels and the battlecharsets were nothing because that's the best I can do?

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

People need motivation to help others, beleive it or not.
If anyone else helps someone in need there's motivation for that help being handed.
Sometimes requests made have so little motivation involved people tend to ignore them.

Graphics aren't everything.

[WarxePB]

CoolZidane
So you're saying you would be perfectly fine if I made a game where the main character was shapeless mass of pixels and the battlecharsets were nothing because that's the best I can do?

Why do you care so much about graphics anyways? Do you think that excellent graphics will make up for every other shortcoming?


And to answer your question, if the plot was good, I would have no problem playing it.

[blackskullwarlock]

People tend to go berserk when they see the slightest RTP char or tileset. That explains the huge requests for custom graphics.