Getting Help on Charas

[Rune_of_Punishment]

Boo hoo? Everyone always thinks that they must get something in return for what they did. Why? Isn't the satisfaction for doing somethign for someone else good enough? Geez... talk about selfish...

[smokey_locs2002]

Originally posted by Rune_of_Punishment
Boo hoo? Everyone always thinks that they must get something in return for what they did. Why? Isn't the satisfaction for doing somethign for someone else good enough? Geez... talk about selfish...

Doing something for unhelpful people isn't fun. People always do something to gain something if you REALLY think about it. Some help people because they fear that god will kill them some help people to see a smile on their face. Some help people because they are blind. There's a differance between being used and being helpful. I've helped peeps who didn't even say thx, or commit on how good it looks....When it gets to that point then you feel you should get something even it it's only a thx.

[RPG LORD]

Take those words back, Rune of Punishment.
You don't get the point at all.
Well, if Alex meant this to be a helpful community, then I take my hat off to the failure this is.

[Drace]

If those "freeloaders" could help people they could make their own stuff and wouldn't request anything, ever though of that?

[Leon_1990]

Drace , think before you post....
They probably try themselves and fail. so they just give up.

[Drace]

Exactly, not everyone can make stuff.

[Leon_1990]

yes and....
then we have teh issue of people who CAN, NOT doing requests , dont get me wrong, im not asking eveyone to do requests 24/7, but perhaps if we all did the odd request, charas would be a more helpful community.

[Dragonium]

I have to say I agree with Leon.

Originally posted by smokey_locs2002
"In order to gain something in life you must present something of equal value" goes something like that, anyways. This doesn't mean "If I make a sprite for you you make a song for me" I've noticed those who are more helpful and more simple request get their request done alot faster.

I agree, I don't think a "Request Swap" thing would work. See, we'd end up with all the repeat-requesters asking for sprites completely custom that take 2 hours, and they'd reward the person with a crappily generated charset which took 20 seconds. I'm sick of people who do that.

If someone puts a lot of effort into a piece of work, then you better give them something of equal value in return.

And I know someone will say "But not everyone is good at the same things". Well, you're right. But I believe in the principle that everyone has some skill in something. Whether it be charsets, titles, MIDIs, etc.

Ehh, whatever.

[Drace]

Originally posted by Leon_1990
yes and....
then we have teh issue of people who CAN, NOT doing requests , dont get me wrong, im not asking eveyone to do requests 24/7, but perhaps if we all did the odd request, charas would be a more helpful community.

That's something else.
I was only defending the people who CAN'T, NOT doing requests.

[Almeidaboo]

Hm...Working with RPG Maker makes you fit in a "class": spriter, musician, scripter, writer...Plus, you have an level at that: semi-novice, novice, experienced, advanced, master, über-God-of all...Now, letīs take a look at ME ( as the majority of people...)

Spriter: semi-novice
Musician: null (when you canīt even make music hitting the wall with your head...)
scripter: experienced
Writer: advanced (altough Iīve never told you guys any of my stories...letīs put thast aside and trust me hahaha...)

Well, that person there (me) seems like a person that needs help in a game doesnīt he? Well, he tries a bit of all, even tough heīs a failure in most of it...if he requests, he canīt really give anything back, since 99% of ppl thatīs making a game has their own story/would like to make it up. What to do then?

[ZeroKirbyX]

Guys, think about it like a school art class. Lets face it, not even half the people in these classes can do anything artistic, but they attempt it. Even if it looks like crap, they're giving SOMETHING to the teacher instead of nothing. Now, if all the n00bs/newbs on here would take that mentality, and at least attempt doing any request it would be better, because giving somehing is always better than giving nothing. And on this whole "Give for something in return", thats a load of selfish bull*****. Thats like going to a birthday party, givng a gift, and saying "whare's my gift?".

[InsaneJP]

guys this is getting way to out of hand i know everyone is mad at something but you are all gunna hafta just let it go and stop arguing....we all no people dont do things and we all know not everyone can do something so leave it at that

[coasterkrazy]

I always thought it was better if when someone requested resources, they offered something in return. It's not like you have to accept it, but at least they're trying to be fair about things rather than: Ah please! I need (such and such) resource for (so and so)!!!!! Please someone do this!

I think that's probably the worst way to go about asking for resources.

[Moosetroop11]

 

Doing something for unhelpful people isn't fun. People always do something to gain something if you REALLY think about it. Some help people because they fear that god will kill them some help people to see a smile on their face. Some help people because they are blind. There's a differance between being used and being helpful. I've helped peeps who didn't even say thx, or commit on how good it looks....When it gets to that point then you feel you should get something even it it's only a thx.

NOT true. I do it merely because I like helping people. I don't fear God or beleive in him, and I'm not blind so meh.

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

Originally posted by RPG LORD
Take those words back, Rune of Punishment.
You don't get the point at all.
Well, if Alex meant this to be a helpful community, then I take my hat off to the failure this is.

That's one that sticks around for it hehehe.


The whole point of helping, is expecting you might not get anything from the person. The result from helping others IS what should satisfy you; of course getting a thx wou;d help but it is not the point.

Thats like going to a birthday party, givng a gift, and saying "whare's my gift?".

 Is exactly the kind of attitude you shouldn't have when helping people. And if you are going to be like that, i do suggest; don't help at all.