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[Tomi]

Originally posted by Kinslayer

quote:

Originally posted by Tomi quote: Originally posted by Kinslayer I was about to go to college when I heard that on the news (about 7:00 am). It is a shame how the world is barnished in blood. And it will be worse, since that mutherfucker   Bush  will continue its oppressive and imperialist expansion using those lives lost as an excuse . *hint hint*

Waddaya mean by that?!

*sigh*  Maybe   Bush  is being used   as an excuse?

EDIT: Whoops, Ace beat me to it.  What he said.

[Grandy]

Originally posted by Ace of Spades

quote:

Originally posted by Kinslayer quote: Originally posted by Tomi quote: Originally posted by Kinslayer I was about to go to college when I heard that on the news (about 7:00 am). It is a shame how the world is barnished in blood. And it will be worse, since that mutherfucker   Bush  will continue its oppressive and imperialist expansion using those lives lost as an excuse . *hint hint* Waddaya mean by that?!

He means that you guys use Bush as an excuse. And one thing I don't like is how everyone gets all mad when someone else gets attacked, but when we got attacked, I can bet that you or Grandy didn't give a ****.

 ...?
 What? I didn't give a ****?
 'Couse I did.
 Only because I think that in Iraq its happening the same thing.... right now, and, as both Iraq, England, and USA are far from here, the effect is the same on me. Or do you think I should be more sad for England than for Iraq? There's like 300 deaths in Iraq for eache people who got injuried in England. Each Day.

 

And Grandy, if innocent people are dying in Iraq, it's their fault, because that means that they either:
A. Attack an American GI
B. Run out in the middle of the war

 Pff.

 Do you REALLY think theres no innocent victims in there? With all the bombing? All night? Run out in the middle of a war?! The war is runnig of in the middle of people!
 Rules of engaged combat? What rules? Hell, you pointed yourself: No even uniforms they have! They want to protect they home, thats all! How would you feel, if an Army of full equiped mens showed up and started to shoot? Ha, you DO think this war started for Iraq's fault? Think again, saying all Iraqians are 'Al Qaedians' is the same to say I'm like Blanka 'cause I'm brazilian.

[Kinslayer]

 IF YOU THINK THAT I DON'T GIVE A **** FOR THOSE LIVES, YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!! It is because of that those lives matter, why I say that Bush is a bastard who uses those lost as an excuse to win power. How dare you say that I cannot care about a life lost in such a reckless, selfish, low and cowardice attack?! Both Bush, who sends bombs against childs, womans and civilians; and the terrorist, who (oh... wait a minute) DO THE SAME ****ing THING should die and ****ing burn in hell!!!!
Bush is not an excuse, and certainly, nor this attack, nor the bombs in Iraq, nor 9/11, nor any terrorist act, nor war, nor duel has an excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ENGRAVE THIS IN YOUR ****ing HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Grandy]

 Now, that was some yelling, but I agree.
 Bush and the terrorists are in the same layer.

[Leon_1990]

dont forget tony blair, hes just as bad -_-

[Ace of Spades]

WE'RE the ones who are doing the bombing?! You don't know anything about this war, do you? We're fighting ground combat, dude. The Iraqis are the ones who are doing the bombing. With all their stupid stunts, such as hotel bombing, car bombing, etc. The Iraqi soldiers, and terrorists who are helping don't give a damn about the civilians. Hell, Saddam would shoot one if they said something bad about him. Do you think the soldiers care? If Saddam was their leader, and they were trained under rules that apply by his standards? (And sorry about what I said earlier. The way you were saying things was like you hated America, and didn't care if we got attacked)

Kinslayer: Calm down man. Politics is a big issue and everyone gets really angry about it when they are offended, as I did.

Edit: Wait... Bush and terrorists are in the same layer?! No they're not. Terrorists attack innocent people. Bush is fighting those terrorists and IRAQI SOLDIERS, not innocent civilians.

[theillusivefish]

all the fish has to say is...IT SICKENS ME TO EXIST IN A TIME WHERE PEOPLE WILL HAPPYLLY BLOW PEPLES HUSBANDS, MOTHERS, WIVES, CHILDREN, BROTHERS AND SISTERS STRAIGHT TO ****ing HELL AND BEYOND...*deep breaths* Phew!...

[Grandy]

 

We're fighting ground combat, dude. The Iraqis are the ones who are doing the bombing. With all their stupid stunts, such as hotel bombing, car bombing, etc.

 Well, if you want to believe not a single missile was lauch by the americans (by americans I don't mean you, I mean.... Bush, and the army itself) , I won't ruin your fantasy.
 And lost bullets can kill as well.
 You heard about that italian jornalist? The terrorists kidnapped she, after one month, they let her go, she was ina black car, going to an airport, when she got close to a American base, the shooting started, they almost killed her (or they did, I don't know).
 And it wasn't even Iraqian, nor it was attacking, why'd they shoot in a non-Iraqian car?

[charaman]

Originally posted by Grandy

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Originally posted by charaman and to Grandy, they attacked us first, so don't blame us for not laying down to it. Don't expect England to, either.

 Who? The Iraqians? The Afgenastians(How the hell are those called?)? The kids that were in there? The old couple that was there in vacations, celebreting they'r marry birthday? Nah, it was the Al Qaeda, it was Osama. I think they should punished (Osama and Al Qaeda), but leave Saddan Hussein and the others out of it, Hell, what they did for you all? THEY attacked your country? When?

 Oh, well, I guess, since ONE person killed my cousin, I have not only to kill him, but his whole family and friends, oh wait, I can't find him, so I'll kill his family and friends 'till he shows up.

 I really don't know where I was condraditore, please, show me.

first of all, we are not talking about Iraq. And as for Afghanistan, yeah. The Taliban and Al Qaeda were connected.

[Grandy]

Originally posted by charaman

quote:

Originally posted by Grandy quote: Originally posted by charaman and to Grandy, they attacked us first, so don't blame us for not laying down to it. Don't expect England to, either.  Who? The Iraqians? The Afgenastians(How the hell are those called?)? The kids that were in there? The old couple that was there in vacations, celebreting they'r marry birthday? Nah, it was the Al Qaeda, it was Osama. I think they should punished (Osama and Al Qaeda), but leave Saddan Hussein and the others out of it, Hell, what they did for you all? THEY attacked your country? When?  Oh, well, I guess, since ONE person killed my cousin, I have not only to kill him, but his whole family and friends, oh wait, I can't find him, so I'll kill his family and friends 'till he shows up.  I really don't know where I was condraditore, please, show me.

first of all, we are not talking about Iraq. And as for Afghanistan, yeah. The Taliban and Al Qaeda were connected.

 Well, that wasn't contraditory, was an error. Anything more?

[Kinslayer]

Originally posted by Ace of Spades

Kinslayer: Calm down man. Politics is a big issue and everyone gets really angry about it when they are offended, as I did.

Dude, I'm not mad. I wrote the text that way so that I could make myself clear. And, dude, let me remind you. You still have aircrafts at Iraq (I watch the news, you know, and by the way, I have knowledge of war tactics, and the U.S. IS using aerial attacks as a tactic. Yet, what you say about the Iraqi resistance is true).
Sorry if I made the text a little... well... rude, but I wanted to put things loud, and clear. I don't get mad when I talk about politics (I study journalism, and dude we talk A LOT of politics at college)
and I'm not gonna get mad right now. I have many friends who dissagree with me, even my mom disagrees in my way on seeing politics, but still I don't fight, because it is pointless. I am not saying that the iraqi resistance (because there is a lot of innocents who die in Iraq) is better than the U.S. marines in any human way, or that Saddam was better than Bush, all I am saying is that  Bush's imperialist expansion, Saddam's oppression, and the terrorist's attack end up with the same thing: THE DEATH OF INNOCENTS, LET THEM BE AMERICANS, IRAQIS, BRITTISH OR WHATSOEVER.
Remember Ace: in war, there is no better and worse, there is no winner, only loosers, because of that any life lost, is a great loss.

[charaman]

My point is, you are using Iraq to bring your point across, but it has nothing to do with the current issue.

[Ace of Spades]

Why does everyone keep on saying "We live in a time of killing and war and fighting and chaos and this and that" Do you really think there was ever a time that none of this happened?! Besides the garden of Eden, the answer is NO!. Lets see.
Prehistoric times: Monstrous beasts known as dinosaurs roam the earth, and I'm pretty sure they fought.
Ice Age: The time of cave men. They probably all fought eachother and killed eachother for food.
Ancient times (Egypt, Rome, Greece, etc): They all had war, and fought eachother.
Middle Ages: Does it really need an explanation? Knights, barbarians, war, fighting, killing, a time of darkness and blood.
Age of Exploration: People fought for land, killed eachother, wars, all that stuff.
Age of Revolution: The title gives it away. War, killing, fighting.
1900 - Present: WWI, WWII, Cold War, Vietnam, Terrorism: War, fighting, killing, etc.

Notice. There was never a time in the age of man where fighting, war, killing, etc didn't happen. So please, don't say "we live in a time of killing and warfare" when you can't point out a time that there wasn't. If you guys really want someone to blame, that isn't Bush, Blair, Hussein, OR the terrorists, then blame Adam and Eve (Eve particularly).

[Grandy]

My point is, you are using Iraq to bring your point across, but it has nothing to do with the current issue.

 WAR is the current issue

I think we all agree in one thing:
 It doesn't matter who started the war, may they be Iraqians, Afganistans, Americas, British, it doesn't matter, someone should stop it.

[charaman]

i agree, clinton was better, yet what do you expect Bush to do? let the terrorists kill our civilians? there is really no other option. People will disagree either way.

I think we all agree in one thing:
It doesn't matter who started the war, may they be Iraqians, Afganistans, Americas, British, it doesn't matter, someone should stop it.

theres another thing. I think we can all agree it wasnt the british, but that doeesnt phase the terrorists. Perfect example.