The Evoulution of Nature?

[AsakuraHao2004]

At first glance, you could say that man has destroyed nature. We clear forests to make room for our roads and cities, deplete natural resources, and pollute the air in the process. However, I recently had a new way of thinking about all of this.

A few days ago, I was just walking around town, and I stopped and took a good look around me. At first, I thought about what I mentioned earlier about man destroying nature, but then I thought "But is this not nature?" How we're these buildings formed? The roads? The cars? Everything all the materials came from earth, even things that have been combined to form new elements had come from earth.

Species were meant to evolve and develop their culture and survive. The fish evolves and make their living in the waters. The primate evolves and make their fortress in the trees. And following this patern, the human evolves and makes his dwelling in a house. Survival of the fittest, no? Therefor the fittest have the say-so in how nature should be run. So everything we see today, all the "technology" and modernism is just the culture of the evoulution of the human species.

So what do you think? Has man made their nature, or destroyed it?

[MSlash67]

I believe that we are making our own nature. It just changes over the years as we go. Things may be removed in the process but this then creates a new part to nature.

[Tomi]

I believe man has made his own nature, but I like the old nature better.  Much more beautiful in my eyes.

[White Dwarf]

Ask your true to an extent. But other animals have evolved around us, and such, but some havent, so we should be "kind" and let them have there share of the world, just not as big as ours, but were not, were destroying everything and, so it seems, ourselfs, cus were running out of resorses, and if we die, we wont be the fittest, so weve just destroyed ALL of the world by coming here, destroying everything else, then destroying ourselfes. now, im kidna sleepy so that might not have made sense, but yeh.

[Trevlac]

Asa, I think you are very wise.  This is exactly what Buddha would have said.  I heartily agree.  You can not make something out of matter and say it's not natural.  Another note:

We actually grow trees faster than our machines can cut them down.  We've refined agriculture so much.

We are raising cows faster than we can kill them.  We have refined ranching so much.

The Ozone is broken? Well, we've got men, we've got rockets, we've gon Saran Wrap; FIX IT!

Humans have very much improved the Earth.  Especially from our point of view.  So screw environmentalists.

I don't care what state matter is in, I love it all the same.  The trees and the manhole covers.

Think of this, the Earth has been here for a few BILLION years, but yet humans, depending on what you belive, have been here for a couple thousand.  Could we HONESTLY destroy and entire planet?

[White Dwarf]

Originally posted by Trevlac
Think of this, the Earth has been here for a few BILLION years, but yet humans, depending on what you belive, have been here for a couple thousand.  Could we HONESTLY destroy and entire planet?[/B]

If we wanted to, yes. But we dont want to. Do we?

[Trevlac]

Yeah, good luck with that, White.

[AsakuraHao2004]

Even with neuclear bombs and such, we couldn't DESTROY the planet. Even if we kill everything and turn the entire earth into a barren wasteland it would be able to revive itself. I mean, it started as a cluster of gasses and such.

[Grandy]

 Nature isn't equal to culture.
 When the human kind didn't touched it, its nature, when he did, its culture.

 ...

 I've heard this somewhere, and I kinda agree. KINDA.

[LynX]

Well, I think nature could have "expected" us to do something like pollution. Nature made us, so nature could "know" of our possibilities.

I know it sounds abstract and meaningless, but what the heck.

[BlackIceAdept]

I agree with you but I still keeping to my idealist ways of thinking that one day all of mankind will live alongside the earth and have our houses, stores, roads, everything made into the earth instead of above it.

[Drace]

Maybe we are making our own nature. But we're destroying the nature of the rest of the inhabitants of Earth. Right, no?

[Trevlac]

Matter can neither be created or destroyed.  That's a law of physics.

What can be destroyed is an idea.  Houses are ideas.  Because we define houses, not by the exact particles that make them up, but by how it's constructed.  Look at things, everyday things, and remember, they're not skateboards, or lamps, or pies.  They're ideas.  Different matter grouped different ways.  That's all out modern "nature" really is.

[Bluhman]

In the future, they should make an engine that runs on smoke and releases air.

[Drace]

Sounds more like stuff to me.... or culture. Like Grandy said.