The National Day of Silence

[Drace]

Originally posted by Spike21
perssonly i say being gay is wrong but i dont go and yell at people for being gay. i just hate how almost everyone else that thinks the same as me are all losers about it and force their beilefs on people i just hate that. i also think that why do get a day and not many other stuff do

They can't do squat about being gay or hetero. It just happends, no need to be mean to them about it.

[Spike21]

hey i never said i was mean to them.

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by Drace

quote:

Originally posted by Spike21 perssonly i say being gay is wrong but i dont go and yell at people for being gay. i just hate how almost everyone else that thinks the same as me are all losers about it and force their beilefs on people i just hate that. i also think that why do get a day and not many other stuff do

They can't do squat about being gay or hetero. It just happends, no need to be mean to them about it.

I disagree. People can choose whether to be gay, hetero, or what not. People choose their own beliefs, ideals, lifestyles, etc. Some people claim that some people are born with an attraction to the same sex, whether or not that is true or not doesn't matter, people are still free to make that choice on their own.

[Drace]

Originally posted by DragonBlaze

quote:

Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by Spike21 perssonly i say being gay is wrong but i dont go and yell at people for being gay. i just hate how almost everyone else that thinks the same as me are all losers about it and force their beilefs on people i just hate that. i also think that why do get a day and not many other stuff do They can't do squat about being gay or hetero. It just happends, no need to be mean to them about it.

I disagree. People can choose whether to be gay, hetero, or what not. People choose their own beliefs, ideals, lifestyles, etc. Some people claim that some people are born with an attraction to the same sex, whether or not that is true or not doesn't matter, people are still free to make that choice on their own.

Yes, gay people can make the choice to stay with women, but they still are attracted to man. You simply are gay or not, you can't choose it. Unlike stuff like beliefs, ideals, lifestyles etc. Those can be learned to you, adapted from others or created yourself, but not hetero- and homosexuality.

[X_marks_the_ed]

I don't see what the big deal is with some people. People are born different. If they chose to like to same gender, that's their decision. It's not my duty to critisize (spelling?) people. I don't judge.

After i read this thread, I thought, "why would I do something if i don't know more about it."

So....  I must ask. Why must we have a moment of silence for Homosexuals? To honor the gay lives ruined by George bush?

[Archem]

Heh. I was mostly silent today (like every day, actually), but I didn't know about this. I have a gay friend, but I guess he didn't know about it, either. Being married isn't described as a man and a women being held together by a bond, it never specifies gender. And I'm pretty sure gayness isn't "against God's law", since God clearly made the gays (if you believe God exists, mind you. If not, then there's no excuse for gay-bashing), and it's not against nature's law, since plenty of cases of homosexuality exist within other species of animals. Bees, sheep, deer, monkeys, humans (obviously), and lots of others. Of course, the bottom line is that I won't be silent for them, that movement doesn't involve me. And since I see no violence, there's no need for it to involve me.

[Spike21]

Originally posted by Archem2
Heh. I was mostly silent today (like every day, actually), but I didn't know about this. I have a gay friend, but I guess he didn't know about it, either. Being married isn't described as a man and a women being held together by a bond, it never specifies gender. And I'm pretty sure gayness isn't "against God's law", since God clearly made the gays (if you believe God exists, mind you. If not, then there's no excuse for gay-bashing), and it's not against nature's law, since plenty of cases of homosexuality exist within other species of animals. Bees, sheep, deer, monkeys, humans (obviously), and lots of others. Of course, the bottom line is that I won't be silent for them, that movement doesn't involve me. And since I see no violence, there's no need for it to involve me.

whoow there.

[X_marks_the_ed]

Originally posted by Archem2
Heh. I was mostly silent today (like every day, actually), but I didn't know about this. I have a gay friend, but I guess he didn't know about it, either. Being married isn't described as a man and a women being held together by a bond, it never specifies gender. And I'm pretty sure gayness isn't "against God's law", since God clearly made the gays (if you believe God exists, mind you. If not, then there's no excuse for gay-bashing), and it's not against nature's law, since plenty of cases of homosexuality exist within other species of animals. Bees, sheep, deer, monkeys, humans (obviously), and lots of others. Of course, the bottom line is that I won't be silent for them, that movement doesn't involve me. And since I see no violence, there's no need for it to involve me.

Archem, you have just earned 20 respect points.

[Archem]

  I feel special now. My rant in a whole thread of similar rants is quoted not once, but TWICE as being good, in quick succession! Mebe I should be a public speaker!  ... Oh, wait... no, I'm too anti-social... Anywho, thank you both for those few words of appreciation. I'll be taking those respect points, now.

Hehe... I'm  not used to being quoted/respected. Sorry if I threw anybody off-balance.

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by Archem2
Heh. I was mostly silent today (like every day, actually), but I didn't know about this. I have a gay friend, but I guess he didn't know about it, either. Being married isn't described as a man and a women being held together by a bond, it never specifies gender. And I'm pretty sure gayness isn't "against God's law", since God clearly made the gays (if you believe God exists, mind you. If not, then there's no excuse for gay-bashing), and it's not against nature's law, since plenty of cases of homosexuality exist within other species of animals. Bees, sheep, deer, monkeys, humans (obviously), and lots of others. Of course, the bottom line is that I won't be silent for them, that movement doesn't involve me. And since I see no violence, there's no need for it to involve me.

The bible does say the homosexuality is wrong in many places.

 

Yes, gay people can make the choice to stay with women, but they still are attracted to man. You simply are gay or not, you can't choose it. Unlike stuff like beliefs, ideals, lifestyles etc. Those can be learned to you, adapted from others or created yourself, but not hetero- and homosexuality.

Gays are like fat people. A lot of fat people are fat because of genetics. But just because they're born like that doesn't mean they can't lose weight if they really try. In the same way, if a gay person doesn't want to be gay, they don't have to be, they can choose to be hetero. If people are attracted to the same sex, they CAN train them selves otherwise. If people are smokers and addicted to nicatine, they CAN train themselves to be non smokers, its hard, but they can do it. They're not stuck being gay if they really don't want to be. Most of the time, gays do want to be the way they are and don't want to change that. Thats fine, but its their choice.

People are always free to choose who they want to be and how they want to live. Just because they're born a certain way doesn't mean they can't change that if they really want to.

[Archem]

No comment.

[SonicChaos7]

I true homosexual person is not attracted to the opposite sex. One who chooses to be homosexual is not really homosexual. They're just mad about either not getting good sex or they can't get a guy/girl.

[X_marks_the_ed]

The worst thing for a homosexual person to have to go through is the fact that they are judged.

Another strong thing is the lack of knowledge. Therefore, for 9.99$ I can sell you this dummies' guide...

[Razor]

Originally posted by DragonBlaze

Lest we forget as the bible has been rewritten through the ages, the transcripters have added and removed whatever they liked/didn't like.

And on the subject, what really sickens me is when people refer to homosexuality as "a mental illness."

[drenrin2120]

Originally posted by Razor

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Originally posted by DragonBlaze

Lest we forget as the bible has been rewritten through the ages, the transcripters have added and removed whatever they liked/didn't like.

And on the subject, what really sickens me is when people refer to homosexuality as "a mental illness."

yes, thankyou, both of those are exactly what I was thinking.