The National Day of Silence

[Shady Ultima]

I have no problem with gays, or gay marriage (anymore)

I used to be a Catholic, and because of my religious beliefs I was against it. I remember a huge fight I had with Mid about this before I stopped coming here for a while. She was trying to convince me that gay marriage was a good thing, while I was convinced it was bad. I've since met a guy who is gay (surprisingly, in 16 years, I had never met someone, and when I finally did, I was his friend, without knowing he was gay) After that I became a bit more open to the idea, because I believe that if we live in a free country, we should be able to do what makes us happy. Mind you, that must not infringe upon other people's happiness. Therefore, rape, murder and theivery would still be illegal. But I am also a firm believer that drugs should be legalized. If people want to damage their bodies, they should be able to legally.

I do not care if people are differing against my opinions. I have tried a few different drugs, but I have been clean for quite some time.

[blaze_shinigami]

lol gay!


Yeah I knew of this, it's cool. No one at my school did it though. i wish they did, loud asses. I still want one of those shirts from that website here.

I really liked those... yeah, I'm straight. I like t-shirts.

 There isn't discrimination at my school like that except for this one a gay guy hit on one of my friends and got his ass BEAT freshman year. I mean beat. There's no real way to put it. I don't think it's discrimination or bullying, but yeah, it is. He got slammed into cars among other things. This was one guy, not a group, and not because he was gay, because he hit on him and he was gay. Like fondling...  I helped stop it, so don't give me shit about it. Gay people are alright, I don't know whether or not I could tolerate being touched in certain places though, in a sexual advance type of way.

[SaiKar]

Discrimination means "to tell the difference between". Like, the differece between red and blue. Or the difference between someone with light skin and dark skin. A lot of minorty / traditionally opressed groups have ideologies like "We all have the same heart, we all cry the same tears when everyone hates us." And that's true. I go along with that.

But why do they have these "days of awareness" when the main ideology is that everyone's basically the same? They just got done saying the differences don't matter! Isn't being aware of their difference rather then just letting it not be a big deal a bad thing? Doesn't a day of awareness just make it EASIER to discriminate against people? I wish they would make up their friggin minds if they are different or not.

Thoughts to ponder.

[WarxePB]

I didn't know such a day existed. I'll have to keep it in mind next year.

[Drace]

Originally posted by Drace

quote:

Originally posted by DragonBlaze Huh? Never heard of it. I'm not gonna be silent for gay people. If they want to be silent, fine, they can do so themselves.

Just to let your guys know, I don't dislike the gays, I'm just not going to be silent. I'll be silent at my own funeral and that's it.

Oh, and gay marriage should be approved. To me, marriage is a sacred bond that binds two loved ones together, same sex or not. I hate Christian dicks not allowing homosexuals to marry.

[Sephiroth rocks]

I've never heard of it it seems to be an exclusive american day. I have nothing against homosexuals and I'm against gay marrige because it doesn't make any sense. Why participate in a ritual that's a core part of a religion that despites you in all ways being a gay/lesbian?

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by Sephiroth rocks
I've never heard of it it seems to be an exclusive american day. I have nothing against homosexuals and I'm against gay marrige because it doesn't make any sense. Why participate in a ritual that's a core part of a religion that despites you in all ways being a gay/lesbian?

I don't know what, but I know in the U.S., couples get tax deductions or stuff like that only if they're married. If gay people can't get married, then they basically can't get these benifits just because of who they are.

[Sephiroth rocks]

 

I don't know what, but I know in the U.S., couples get tax deductions or stuff like that only if they're married. If gay people can't get married, then they basically can't get these benifits just because of who they are.

That sounds lame. Why should married couples have that should make them deserve those benefits above not married ones? That's discremination. But I don't mean it's the church that should change their criterias but the law that should be changed.

[Drace]

Originally posted by DragonBlaze

quote:

Originally posted by Sephiroth rocks I've never heard of it it seems to be an exclusive american day. I have nothing against homosexuals and I'm against gay marrige because it doesn't make any sense. Why participate in a ritual that's a core part of a religion that despites you in all ways being a gay/lesbian?

I don't know what, but I know in the U.S., couples get tax deductions or stuff like that only if they're married. If gay people can't get married, then they basically can't get these benifits just because of who they are.

Thus, mass-discrimination.

[coasterkrazy]

I've never heard of this, so I don't do it, but I guess maybe I would if knew.

Originally posted by drenrin2120
EDIT: A bunch of my friends today surprised me by saying, "Being gay is so wrong." "God made Adam and Eve." "Gay people scare me." They didn't stop to think that not everyone believes in Jesus and that there are worse things to be scared of than gay people.

See that's what pisses me off. Not only what you said dren, but also the fact that they themselves are not being good Christians by feeling that way. Sure nobody's perfect, but the thing is they defend it with there Chrisitanity, and at the same time Jesus loves everyone, so therefore Jesus loves gay people. I wrote up a whole thing on homosexuality somewhere on this forum... I don't feel like retyping it.

[Midnight9795]

 

A bunch of my friends today surprised me by saying, "Being gay is so wrong." "God made Adam and Eve." "Gay people scare me." They didn't stop to think that not everyone believes in Jesus and that there are worse things to be scared of than gay people.

I completely agree with you.

 

I remember a huge fight I had with Mid about this before I stopped coming here for a while. She was trying to convince me that gay marriage was a good thing, while I was convinced it was bad

We did? O.o I forgot XD

Omg, I can't believe I forgot XD No wonder my friend wasn't talking today. She's gay, and would join almost anything for gay rights. You do know that most men don't have a problem with gay females? It's usually the men that they find disgusting. DB, I disagree with you on the benifits thing. Most of them just want to BE normal, and get married just like normal people. Some of them feel that having a paper saying they're soulmates or whatever is the right thing to do.

[Drace]

Originally posted by Midnight9795

quote:

A bunch of my friends today surprised me by saying, "Being gay is so wrong." "God made Adam and Eve." "Gay people scare me." They didn't stop to think that not everyone believes in Jesus and that there are worse things to be scared of than gay people.

I completely agree with you.

 

quote:

I remember a huge fight I had with Mid about this before I stopped coming here for a while. She was trying to convince me that gay marriage was a good thing, while I was convinced it was bad

We did? O.o I forgot XD

Omg, I can't believe I forgot XD No wonder my friend wasn't talking today. She's gay, and would join almost anything for gay rights. You do know that most men don't have a problem with gay females? It's usually the men that they find disgusting. DB, I disagree with you on the benifits thing. Most of them just want to BE normal, and get married just like normal people. Some of them feel that having a paper saying they're soulmates or whatever is the right thing to do.

I love lesbians, personally. But I could also speak for almost every heterosexual guy.
Don't mind gay guys as long as I don't have to see them have sex.

[Midnight9795]

Lol!!

[blaze_shinigami]

Originally posted by Drace

quote:

Originally posted by DragonBlaze quote: Originally posted by Sephiroth rocks I've never heard of it it seems to be an exclusive american day. I have nothing against homosexuals and I'm against gay marrige because it doesn't make any sense. Why participate in a ritual that's a core part of a religion that despites you in all ways being a gay/lesbian? I don't know what, but I know in the U.S., couples get tax deductions or stuff like that only if they're married. If gay people can't get married, then they basically can't get these benifits just because of who they are.

Thus, mass-discrimination.

I think that the benefits of married hetero-couples are because they are going to have children, or it is assumed that they will, in the future.  Gay couples can adopt, I suppose, so I guess it's still backwards.

[Spike21]

perssonly i say being gay is wrong but i dont go and yell at people for being gay. i just hate how almost everyone else that thinks the same as me are all losers about it and force their beilefs on people i just hate that. i also think that why do get a day and not many other stuff do