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Offline Drace

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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2006, 10:03:26 AM »
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None of you can possibly understand how terrible my computer is.

CPU: AMD-K6 3D. Runs at 400 MHz, if you're lucky.
RAM size: 64 MB RAM. If you're lucky.
Graphics card: ATi 3D Rage Pro AGP 2X. Works at 8 MB. If you're lucky.
Hard Drive: 28.6 GB, if you're lucky.

And there is nothing "cool" about my computer.

I'm planning on getting a new processor and graphics card soon, so that this b*tch should be a bit faster. If you're lucky.


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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2006, 11:29:40 AM »
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What?
I always thought more gigahertz = more better?

Is you telling me my current thing is good now?


AMD processors run more cycles per second than intel ones, therefore, although they may clock at a lower gigahertz rate, they are actually more powerful than an intel chip at the same gigahertz number.
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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2006, 02:47:18 PM »
It is true that AMD's processors run at slower clock speeds (i.e., AMD Athlon64 3500+ runs at 2.2GHz, and a comparitive, the Intel Pentium4 550 runs at 3.4GHz). It is also true this does not matter. The point is that Clock speeds are not the be all and end all factor to determine performance

The architecture of the 2 manufacturers products are totally different. AMD's chips are designed such that they have a shorter pipeline, this being a sort of conveyor belt of instructions, than Intel's chips. This means, again in lay terms, that AMD's processors can perform more work per cycle which is why they get away with slower clock speeds and still offer comparable (and sometimes superior). So you see that clock speeds are not to be used to compare between the two chiptypes.

Back in the days of the AthlonXP, AMD took to naming their chips using something called a performance rating. Officially this was meant as a meant of measuring the performance of the chips, however consumers began using the numbers to compare the XPs against the Intel's Pentium4 processors(which was AMDs real intent for the naming system). Thus, people often drew a comparison between, say an AthlonXP 3000+ and a Pentium4 3.0GHz, likewise the AthlonXP 2800+ was to be compared to the Pentium4 2.8GHz. To a degree, these comparisons were valid and held however there are many exceptions (i.e., the ratings do not compare as evenly as the clock speeds begin to get higher)

So to recap:
-Athlon CPUs may have less clock cycles, but they can do more work per cycle than Pentiums. This means they are much more efficient
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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2006, 04:32:08 PM »
Don't laugh.

256mb sdr Ram
33GB Hardrive.
2.6ghz intel celeron
Intel Extreme graphics (Up to 64bit support.)
2 usb ports on the back and 2 in the front.
CD drive that doesn't work.

Hey, you know what? It runs the programs I need, so shut the hell up.
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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2006, 08:31:32 PM »
Well thanks guys, I think you just saved me more money. Which I can now spend on A) a DS Lite or B) 1 gig of more RAM!
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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2006, 08:50:56 PM »
I got myself a new computer :)

Lets see...

Intel Celeron 1.8 ghz
128 MB Ram
40 GB hard drive
Integrated audo
CD burn/write + Dvd read drive
No monitor
Ball mouse and old keyboard
Cost: Free :)

One of my bros friends got a new computer cuz their old computer broke. He gave the computer to my brother who in turn gave it to me (my brother just kept the monitor), I fixed it up (just had to reinstall windows), and now its good as new. I have no idea what I'm gonna do with it yet, maybe put my snes games on it or something.
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« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2006, 09:11:32 PM »
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Well thanks guys, I think you just saved me more money. Which I can now spend on A) a DS Lite or B) 1 gig of more RAM!

Go for the DS! It's worth it, I swear! And 1 GB of RAM is plenty for the next year or two, so feel not the pressure of insufficient RAM for many months more!

EDIT: Oh, right. Frog-got what we was doing here...
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« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2006, 09:22:10 PM »
It glows in the dark!


And it has guts!


I have my own personal hard drive, which has 80gb of space, which I have filled with about 50gb of music.  My mouse has an air conditioner in it (crazy, man), and my keyboard flashes when electronic crap goes on/off around it.  LCD monitor, surround sound system, that's about it.
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2006, 01:23:58 AM »
Is  my computer fast? Well, it's much faster on the start-up than the ten-year-old Macintosh we used until one year ago....
....but it's still sorta slow when I compare it to....oh...just about any computer I see. And since we only get Dial-Up where I live....
....I've got a new 'hunk-o-junk'. (I think it might be the Limewire I have, but it was slow, even when I took it off)

I'm gonna buy myself a new laptop in a few weeks, but I wanna know: Is Dell the best I can get? Money is no object, I should add.

And, try not to talk in 'gigahertz'--that talk confuses me. I'm after quality, durability, and economy...barring my 'money is no object' comment earlier (I'm no Rich Uncle Pennybags...)
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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2006, 01:30:35 AM »
We'll soon be replacing it with a $500 dollar computer we found at Wal-Mart. It said 3.0GHz processor. I don't know computers so I'm hoping that's good.

If I can find the computer on the internet, I'll post more info about it.
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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2006, 02:16:22 AM »
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*says that his computer sucks and not to make fun of it, even though EXO-muffin's computer is ten times worse*
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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2006, 02:21:10 AM »
MY comp is pwnage.

It has four graphics cards, 2 ATI Padeon X650 and two integrated HyperMemory cards. 9 USB prots, 1 FireWire.
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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2006, 02:41:22 AM »
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We'll soon be replacing it with a $500 dollar computer we found at Wal-Mart. It said 3.0GHz processor. I don't know computers so I'm hoping that's good.

If I can find the computer on the internet, I'll post more info about it.


Well, your getting your money's worth. Its not bad, but its nothing special.

Also, if its an intel celeron processor, it won't run as good as an intel pentium 4 processor. I'm guessing it'll have either 256 or 512 mb RAM. A cheap/decent graphics card, probably a DVD burner. Decent hard drive.

A thing that you HAVE to remember when buying a computer, you have to keep in mind what you plan to do with your computer before buying it. For example, my brother does 3 things with his computer, plays diablo II, plays poker online, and types reports. He has a gig of RAM, but wants 2 gigs, he wants to upgrade to a radeon X1900 (or simular Nvidia card), and he recently spent $200 on a new processor/mobo (had a AMD athlon 64 3000+ now has a AMD athlon duel core 3800+). Even though he'll have a sweet computer once he's done with his upgrades, he would have wasted a LOT of money since his current computer is more than fine for what he uses it for.

If you don't plan on playing high end games or doing activities that will require a really good computer, don't buy one. If you don't plan on doing anything special with your computer, that $500 one will probably be good for you.


@Djanki

With laptops, get a really long warrenty. Mine broke after two years, and it would have cost me $600 to fix it. I haven't had a Dell before, so I don't know if they're "better" than another brand. If you want it to have a longer batter life, look to see if it has a mobil processor (I think most laptops have one now a days anyway though), and go with a litheum battery I think its called cuz they last longer than normal ones.

For processors, if you want quality, go with the AMD turon (sp) or the intel centreno (sp) processors. Do NOT get an intel celeron processor, they're cheaper, but crappier. Turon and Centreno are processors built specifically with laptops in mind.

Read reviews on the laptops before you buy one. A problem some laptops have is overheating, usually when playing high end games or something that requires a lot of CPU, if a laptop overheats, it could ruin the whole computer (happened with mine when playing chrono trigger for 8 hours straight).
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« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2006, 11:50:33 AM »
The reason we're getting a new one, is mostly because I and my little brother play a lot of games. The Sims 2, KOTR, a bunch of 3D games like that. We may even move into a new area with high-speed internet.

We have this thing were we could watch TV and DVDs on our computer. The TV and the DVD work fine, but the games are slow and choppy. They're still playable, but they have to have all the detail taken away. If I wanted something that could play anything, as smooth as possible, what would you recommend?

I don't play online games, not really. So I'd like advice for games like Half-Life 2 or something. I don't play computer games as much as my brother. I mostly use the computer for RPG Maker, and maybe school. I need something that will take away the lag for me.

I found the computer. Will it do it's job, or is it a waste of money?
17" Flat CRT (16" diagonal viewable), 1280x1024 @ 60Hz
 
Processor: AMD Sempron 3100+ processorOperates at 1.8GHz 256KB L2 Cache 1600MHz System Bus
 
Memory: Intel Celeron D Processor 356 64-bit Technology with Intel EM64T; Operates at 3.33GHz 512KB L2 Cache 533MHz
 
Hard Drive: 160GB (7200 RPM, 2MB Cache)
 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
 
Optical Device: DVD +/-RW, 16x Multi-Format Double Layer(up to 8.5GB with Double Layer media)
 
Expansion Slots: Total: 1 PCI-E x16, 1 PCI-E x1, 2 PCI;
Available: 1 PCI-E x16, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI
 
Communications: 56K ITU V.92 ready Fax/Modem
(RJ-11 port)10/100 Mbps Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 port)
 
Graphics & Audio: ATI Radeon X300 Based Integrated Graphics up to 128MB of shared video memory
6-Channel (5.1) High Definition Audio w/ Amplified Stereo Speakers
 
Digital Media Reader (Memory Card Reader): 9-in-1 Digital Media ManagerSecure Digital (SD), Smart Media, Micro Drive, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, Compact Flash, xD, Multimedia Card (MMC), USB 2.0
 
Weight: 22.5 lbs (CPU only, no packaging)
Monitor: 39.0 lbs. (17.7 kg)
 
External Ports: 5 USB 2.0 Ports, 1 in Media Manager, 4 in back, 1 VGA External Connector, 1 Serial Port, 1 Parallel Port, 2 PS/2 Ports (Keyboard and Mouse), 5 Audio Ports (2 in front and 3 in back)
 
Input Devices: Standard Multifunction Keyboard, 2-Button Wheel Mouse
 
Software: Productivity Software: Microsoft Works 8.5, Microsoft Office 2003 60-day trial, Microsoft Money 2006, Adobe Acrobat Reader 7

Digital Media Software: CyberLink PowerDVD Suite, Cyberlink Power2Go, Microsoft Windows Media Player 10, Microsoft Digital Image (includes 60-day Digital, RealNetworks RealPlayer, Quicktime

Connectivity / Utilities: Microsoft Internet Explorer

It's a Celeron D. Great...
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« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2006, 03:47:48 PM »
Err, well first for the prcoessor, you have amd sempron, then for the memory, you have intel celeron D, the thing is, intel celeron D is a type of processor and not memory (RAM).

I don't know what the recommendations for half life 2 is, but for oblivion (which I'm guessing will be pretty simmular) are as following. Note, these are recommendations and not requirements.

3 ghz intel pentium 4 or equivalent processor. Either of the two processors are probably about equivalent.

1 GB system memory. I'm guessing you don't meet this.

ATI X800 series or higher gfx card. You do not meet this.

I have an AMD athlon 64 3000+ which is about what oblivion requires for the processor, 1 GB system memory, and an ATI X1300 gfx card, and oblivion still runs choppy for me sometimes.

In short, that computer is not good enough to play new games to their full potential. It'll be more than fine for most games such as the sims II or whatever, but for new high end games, I don't think it'll cut it.

Lets see, for $435 you could build a...

AMD Athlon 64 3500+
1 GB Ram
200 GB SATA hard drive
DVD burner
ATI Radeon X1300 gfx card
and you get this case:


Though, that doesn't include windows XP ($90) or a monitor or keyboard/mouse. And plus you'd have to build it..

But anyway, if you want to play new games with your computer, look for an AMD 3000+ or intel 3.0 ghz or higher processor. 1 GB of memory (ram), and an ATI Radeon X800 or Gforce 6800 or higher gfx card.
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