US Congressional Elections

[charaman]

Originally posted by Glitch
oh, and no there isn't an immediate withdrawl plan on the table yet. However, most democrats, and apparently from what NYtimes said, Bush himself have decided to start implementing a new withdrawl plan. It's one of the big things the Democrats want to get accomplished starting next year, they want to try and start the process up. Bush has decided that starting next year he wants to start a new bi-partisan era, where he works with the democrats towards good compromises.

That's what the NYtimes said anyway.   Whatever you believe, you gotta give Bush a little credit for extending some sort of olive branch. In fact, he even took responsibility for the Republicans losing the election and some of the problems facing the country. Never too late.

It really does restore my faith in democracy, to see that. With Rummy as a fall guy, we can start to move on.

[Osmose]

Originally posted by Tomi
ZKX, you are not alone.  *republican'd* I am fearing for my life if Hillary ever gets elected.  I think that the Democratic majority is going to screw over a lot of things.  I don't agree with everything Bush does, but I definitely disagree with most of the flaming liberal ideas.  Most of the time, I notice that liberals seem to think ideally instead of logically.  For example, the war in Iraq.  Libs want to pull out immediately, regardless of any consequences.  They say that our soldiers are dying for no reason.  However, if we do a full pull out right away, all the work that our soldiers have done and all the times people have died would all be in vain.  We went in there, and we need to finish the job by helping the Iraqis build up their defenses so no one needs to step in at a later point.  Pulling out now would be a disgrace to our country, and would make any hope for a democratic Iraq a splode.

You've got to understand that the flaming liberals that you talk about are the extremists saying, "I don't agree with everything Democrats support, but I disagree with nearly everything those oppressive, ignorant Republicans do." You only hurt the credibility of your opinion by making that kind of generalization.

Democrats certainly oppose the war in Iraq, but we aren't as stupid to think that we can just withdraw. Rather, most Democrats either have an idea of or want to negotiate an exit strategy that leaves Iraq in as stable of a state as we can leave it in. Certainly there is high risk of civil war, but by this point we're making little, if any, progress. Not to mention the loss of American lives would hardly be for nothing - Saddam Hussein has been brought out of power and before a jury. There is a new Iraqi government. We could leave a few groups of soldiers in a few training centers to aid in the training of Iraqi security forces and help get the country on it's feet in terms of security. But right now I, and most Democrats, believe that staying in Iraq is hurting us as well as them.

There's much more to work out than simply that, but that's what we're trying to do - COMRPOMISE. However, Democrats cannot compromise with people who won't open their eyes to the concept of it - it may be too long ago for you to remember, but there used to be a time when the constant competition between the parties was what kept the nation in balance, rather than the domination of a single party.

[Ace of Spades]

Originally posted by Tomi
ZKX, you are not alone.  *republican'd* I am fearing for my life if Hillary ever gets elected.  I think that the Democratic majority is going to screw over a lot of things.  I don't agree with everything Bush does, but I definitely disagree with most of the flaming liberal ideas.  Most of the time, I notice that liberals seem to think ideally instead of logically.  For example, the war in Iraq.  Libs want to pull out immediately, regardless of any consequences.  They say that our soldiers are dying for no reason.  However, if we do a full pull out right away, all the work that our soldiers have done and all the times people have died would all be in vain.  We went in there, and we need to finish the job by helping the Iraqis build up their defenses so no one needs to step in at a later point.  Pulling out now would be a disgrace to our country, and would make any hope for a democratic Iraq a splode.

For some reason, I read this with the thought of it being total sexual inuendo. "Libs want to pull out immediately, regardless of any consequences." "if we do do a full pull out right away, all the work.. have done.. would all be in vain." "We went in there, and we need to finish the job" "Pulling out now would be a disgrace"

[plightofthepureblood]

Originally posted by Ace of Spades

quote:

Originally posted by Tomi ZKX, you are not alone.  *republican'd* I am fearing for my life if Hillary ever gets elected.  I think that the Democratic majority is going to screw over a lot of things.  I don't agree with everything Bush does, but I definitely disagree with most of the flaming liberal ideas.  Most of the time, I notice that liberals seem to think ideally instead of logically.  For example, the war in Iraq.  Libs want to pull out immediately, regardless of any consequences.  They say that our soldiers are dying for no reason.  However, if we do a full pull out right away, all the work that our soldiers have done and all the times people have died would all be in vain.  We went in there, and we need to finish the job by helping the Iraqis build up their defenses so no one needs to step in at a later point.  Pulling out now would be a disgrace to our country, and would make any hope for a democratic Iraq a splode.

For some reason, I read this with the thought of it being total sexual inuendo. "Libs want to pull out immediately, regardless of any consequences." "if we do do a full pull out right away, all the work.. have done.. would all be in vain." "We went in there, and we need to finish the job" "Pulling out now would be a disgrace"

HA HA HA HA HAHA LMAO.

[Tomi]

Wow Ace... just wow..XD