University Shootings

[Dragonium]

Also to add to Moose's point, on average there are around 10,000 gun-related incidents in Britain per year, while in America there are around 30,000.

I have to say, though I'm biased, that from what I can see there is a lot of Xenophobia in America from a lot of people. Like Mid said, the media plays a big part in it. People have come to associate foreigners with shocking or tragic events.

[Meiscool-2]

Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX

Originally posted by Omega Weapon

On a more serious note, it's quite sad that school shootings in America get more attention than religious massacres in the Middle East.

Unfortunately, that's the way the world turns. They get more attention because Americans care more about Americans than Middle Easterners. There's nothing shocking or especially malicious about it. It's about ratings, and it's completely understandable.

Only if someone where to say "OMG, these DEATHS are so horrible, things need to *******, would there be room for criticism. It's just a tragedy and nothing more.

Originally posted by Meiscool

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
On a more serious note, it's quite sad that school shootings in America get more attention than religious massacres in the Middle East.

Stupidest post of the month.

Bravo. [/B]

Stupidiest response of the month.

Bravo. [/B]

Stupidiest response of the month.

Bravo.

...What, all the cool kids were doin it.[/B]

XD!!

[SaiKar]

Originally posted by Dragonium
Also to add to Moose's point, on average there are around 10,000 gun-related incidents in Britain per year, while in America there are around 30,000.

United States population: 301,750,000
Britian population: 60,209,500

(data from  wikipedia )

Assuming your 10k/30k numbers are accurate, at five times the population, the US has only three times the gun-related incidents. Conclusion: we're not the violent ones, you are.  :p

[A Forgotten Legend]

Found this on Wiki!

Homicides (non-firearm and firearm homicides) by country

Source: United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, 2000[3]
Country  ↓    Non-firearm homicide rate
per 100,000 pop.  ↓    Firearm homicide rate
per 100,000 pop.  ↓    % homicides with firearms  ↓    Overall homicide rate
per 100,000 pop.  ↓
South Africa    51.3901    74.5748    59.2028    125.9650
Colombia    62.7400    51.7683    45.2092    114.5083
Thailand    8.4679    33.0016    79.5805    41.4695
Guatemala    25.4737    18.5000    42.0706    43.9737
Paraguay    12.0451    7.3508    37.8987    19.3959
Zimbabwe    7.2381    4.7460    39.6026    11.9841
Mexico    14.1112    3.6622    20.6051    17.7735
United States    5.5000    3.6000    39.5604    9.1000
Belarus    10.1300    3.3100    24.6280    13.4400
Barbados    7.4906    2.9963    28.5714    10.4869
Uruguay    4.6149    2.5172    35.2941    7.1321
Lithuania    10.0135    2.2463    18.3223    12.2598
Slovakia    2.6473    2.1659    45.0000    4.8132
Côte d'Ivoire    4.0688    2.0680    33.6982    6.1367
Estonia    10.4456    1.5340    12.8049    11.9795
Macedonia, FYR    2.3141    1.2802    35.6164    3.5943
Latvia    10.0337    1.2648    11.1940    11.2985
Portugal    2.4788    0.8488    25.3776    3.3100
Bulgaria    4.0652    0.7714    15.9494    4.8366
Slovenia    1.8109    0.6036    25.0000    2.4145
Germany    1.1679    0.4672    28.5714    1.6350
Moldova, Republic of    8.1270    0.4671    5.4348    8.5941
Hungary    2.0500    0.4400    17.6707    2.4900
Poland    5.6072    0.4289    7.1062    6.0362
Ukraine    8.9253    0.3495    3.7682    9.2747
Australia    1.5729    0.3073    16.3435    1.8802
Czech Republic    1.6893    0.2624    13.4432    1.9517
Spain    1.2506    0.2456    16.4129    1.4962
Azerbaijan    2.8078    0.2236    7.3770    3.0314
New Zealand    1.1747    0.1827    13.4615    1.3574
Chile    1.5461    0.1776    10.3053    1.7237
Singapore    0.9209    0.0249    2.6316    0.9457




hold on.. that didn't work... SCREENSHOT TIME!!!!!

[A Forgotten Legend]

Gun violence is the broadly defined category of violence and crime committed with the use of a firearm; it does not include the safe lawful use of firearms for sport, hunting, target practice, law enforcement, or self-defense. Gun violence encompasses intentional crime characterized as homicide (although not all homicide is automatically a crime) and assault with a deadly weapon, as well as unintentional injury and death resulting from the misuse of firearms, particularly by children and adolescents.

Levels of gun violence vary greatly across the world, with very high rates in South Africa and Colombia, as well as high levels in Thailand, Guatemala, and some other developing countries. Levels of gun violence are low in Singapore, Chile, New Zealand, and many other countries.



EDIT: I just realized that Great Britain isn't on here, and that i messed up when taking the bottom half's screenshot.  you see some countries twice, sorry... I'll try and find Great Britain's numbers...



I couldn't find the numbers, but here is something from an article  here
"American homicide rates are based on initial data, but British homicide rates are based on the final disposition." Suppose that three men kill a woman during an argument outside a bar. They are arrested for murder, but because of problems with identification (the main witness is dead), charges are eventually dropped. In American crime statistics, the event counts as a three-person homicide, but in British statistics it counts as nothing at all. "With such differences in reporting criteria, comparisons of U.S. homicide rates with British homicide rates is a sham," the report concludes.

Another "common practice," according to one retired Scotland Yard senior officer, is "falsifying clear-up rates by gaining false confessions from criminals already in prison." (Britain has far fewer protections against abusive police interrogations than does the United States.) As a result, thousands of crimes in Great Britain have been "solved" by bribing or coercing prisoners to confess to crimes they never committed.

[Razor]

over 200 people died due to some carbombings in Baghdad today/last night.

How many of you even heard about that?

[Meiscool-2]

Originally posted by Razor
over 200 people died due to some carbombings in Baghdad today/last night.

How many of you even heard about that?

Yeah... you just made that up.

I googled it to make sure.

[A Forgotten Legend]

I <3 Google.

[aboutasoandthis]

Originally Posted by Razor
 

over 200 people died due to some carbombings in Baghdad today/last night.

How many of you even heard about that?

178. I'm reading the story right now.

Make that 183...

[Razor]

I guess 200 was a rough estimate, but that's what I was originally told.

Oh news, why do you lie?

[HackersTotalMassLaser]

News Owned.

They've lied to me too. Specially G4 TV. Fanking wankers.

[Meiscool-2]

lol... yeah.

When the Trade Centers fell they instantly told us "Over 6000 deaths have been accounted for.." when the actually total was quite a bit less than that.

[Dragonium]

Originally posted by SaiKar

Originally posted by Dragonium
Also to add to Moose's point, on average there are around 10,000 gun-related incidents in Britain per year, while in America there are around 30,000.

United States population: 301,750,000
Britian population: 60,209,500

(data from  wikipedia )

Assuming your 10k/30k numbers are accurate, at five times the population, the US has only three times the gun-related incidents. Conclusion: we're not the violent ones, you are.  :p [/B]

Oh, damn, I can't compete with Wikipedia. :p

I dunno if my numbers are accurate, I just Googled and took information from random sites. You're probably right though. But still, if there ever is a gun crime here, the person who did it is usually arrested right away. People here aren't used to guns being around so a gun crime is a pretty big deal.

Also, AFL, that source looks odd to me. While I don't doubt it's genuine, I've just never heard anything like that. I'll do some research.

I also find it bizarre that if three men in Britain kill a woman, they get away because the main witness is dead, but if three men in America kill a woman, they are magically caught, found guilty despite the main witness being dead, and sent to prison, and it counts as a three-person homicide. How does that work?

EDIT: Actually, after reading that source properly, I do doubt it. Partially because it's an American source, and I've been unable to find a similar report on BBC News anywhere. If anything like that got out, the presses over here would be the first to jump all over it. Don't talk about screening, people over here'll print anything.

[HackersTotalMassLaser]

So if there's a country with 100 thousand people (country X), and another country with around 955 thousand people (country Y), and if Country X has 3,500 gun homicides *just for say* and Country Y has 30000 gun homicides, Country X is more violent?

I "think" this is just ratio work.

[Razor]

**** **** **** **** **** I had deja vu again

Because I was thinking about posting a comment on how I'm not sure whether or not "more violent" should relate to percentages.