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Offline Meiscool

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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2012, 11:13:06 PM »
Lose nintendogs.
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2012, 11:34:09 PM »
Nintendogs is indeed dumb. Especially that it doesn't affect computer players at all (but then, that also apply to the temporary darkness effect too).

In terms of playable characters, I wish to see Mewtwo back into the game. Although I am partial to Pichu (mostly because SSBM clones are... not that close really. They were all Luigi-like in the way that their movesets had different effects), I understand him being axed. Mewtwo, however, I really wish would be back ; the serie need more playable villains (Meta Knight, Wolf, and Dedede does not count. They're rival characters, and two of those aren't even evil to begin with).


But what I *truly* want are features. SSBB suffered from a lot of non-sensical decisions that prevent it from being the definitive SSB experience, even if you exclude the character roster issues.

(incoming wall of text coming ; if you only wanted my opinion on characters, stop reading here)

The most infamous ones are the equalized gravity for everyone and the tripping. Likewise, the new default damage handicap is *infinitely* less flexible, effective, and overall fun to mess with than the base stats editing of previous games. The level editor was also ridiculously limited, including a lot of artificial restraints (mods shown that a lot of its limits are artificial) ; I'm not asking for a Starcraft 2 'practically a dev tool'-level of flexibility with a programming engine but something that isn't limited to a grand total of 3 backgrounds and about 6 moving platforms would be nice.

Likewise, the new Adventure mode was... well, a lot of hit-and-miss, mostly on the 'miss' part, ironically making it inferior to the far shorter SSBM adventure mode. I prefered SSBM's, where you actually visited individual dimensions instead of that huge but bland & generic unified world. Likewise, Tabuu is an absolutely horrible villain (in the way that he's not good)... and is also extremely facultative in the way that the Subspace Army could have been replaced by the Dark Matters and Tabuu with Zero and it would have actually worked better (I think I've read somewhere about dev team notes that state that the Subspace Army was initially meant to be the Darkspace Army with Zero at their head but that Sakurai thrown a tantrum until they changed them for generic 'no-name' villains).

The story suffered a lot from the decision to include no text... and well, let's just say that they should have taken some pages from the Soul Calibur serie, regarding the single-player mode.


Finally, this is a nitpick but the phone keypad-like for entering names and write descriptions is an absolute pain and really make me wish for the old keyboard screen used in, well, pretty much every other video game ever.
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2012, 01:16:14 AM »
SSBB had 35 characters total. 

So if we take out characters I wasn't too fond of, such as R.O.B. we're down to 34.  Characters I won't mind being taken out would be Falco, Lucario (although i really liked him), Marth and even Lucas.

So now we're at 30. 

So if we have the cap at 40 now we can add new characters that I would like to see.

Isaac (Goldensun), Shulk (Xenoblade Chronicles), Demise (LoZSS), Ghirahim (LoZSS), Lloyd (ToS) and Megaman.

That's 6 new comers I am hoping for and look!  We have 4 characters left over so return all but R.O.B. lol

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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2012, 01:23:56 AM »
Various literal clones can be taken out, too.
Like, say, Toon Link.

I doubt Falco is going to be removed, but Lucario...most likely.
Gotta make room for the new generation, after all :V
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2012, 01:38:20 AM »
No, **** you. I like all the characters, clones included.
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2012, 01:41:05 AM »
Quote from: daoman89 on September 11, 2012, 01:16:14 AM
Lloyd (ToS)

I'd take Kratos and his sexy voice over Lloyd any day. Ohhhhhh yeah.
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2012, 01:41:15 AM »
Toon Link is my favourite character to play.
I just have a feeling, from the mentality of the designers, they're extraneous and could be removed safely.
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2012, 01:50:52 AM »
They need a young/toon link.

If anything should be removed, it should be: olimar, wolf, rob, lucas (although I really like him), ike (another one I really like), lucario, diddy, and possibly snake/sonic (only remove sonic if knuckles is not there).
Why them? Because they are all new, and most of them are single-series character or clones of characters already from the series. Ike I love, but FE is not as popular as say... TLOZ. Diddy is very unique, but I know no one personally that liked to use him.

EDIT - However, I would prefer only rob be removed.
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2012, 02:10:35 AM »
I'd like to see Megaman and a custom robo, as well as bring back a few characters from melee, especially Roy (Roy's ma boi.) Also, a new anthropomorphic Pokemon. Mewtwo and Lucario were both kind of lame as characters, IMO. It'd also be nice to get a better balance of hero/villain characters, as most villains were heavy, and they were only one 7th or so of the total lineup.
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2012, 02:24:18 AM »
Lloyd's a main character though, not Kratos.  But for your sake he should be an assist trophy and he can say your favorite quote lol.

Ike is the man and should stay, but I see what Meiscool is saying.  But Ike was in 2 games not one lol.  Ike could turn into his adult form for a skin change and his other Lord class and Vanguard costume.

Diddy should stay cause DK needs a buddy. 

I think everyone is in agreement that R.O.B. can go and nobody will care.

And for Olimar, I doubt he'd go because Pikmin 3 is coming out, ya know?
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2012, 02:31:57 AM »
Crash Bandicoot
Isaac
Megaman
Crash Bandicoot
For the love of all that is holy, do not let Waluigi be in it
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Crash Bandicoot
Team Rocket Trainer
Seriously, not ****ing Waluigi
Commander Shepard says this is his favorite fighting game on the Citadel
Earthworm Jim
Phoenix Wright
Deadpool

I would like to see Lucario replaced with Mewtwo.  Why?  Because **** Lucario.  Ike was only good for being replaced by Final Fantasy characters on Brawl Vault.  Dedede can stay.  He is cool.  R.O.B. is okay.  I can actually use him decently, but no big loss as long as I can keep Game and Watch.

I would smile to see any of the above come true.  Some were obvious jests.  I would like to see Crash, Earthworm Jim, Isaac, and NOT WALUIGI DAMMIT.  I'm so serious about this I used the shift key instead of caps lock.
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2012, 03:50:15 AM »
I would...kind of like to see Phoenix Wright, although that would be extremely weird.

When you use his final smash, the music changes to the Cornered! theme from the first game. That would be legendary.
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2012, 04:10:02 AM »
I don't think he would fit as a character. Maybe an assist trophy, though.

I'd like to see Ganon. Like, the Ganon from "A Link to the Past" since his height is more reasonable than the one from "Ocarina of Time" and I don't want a freaking swine like in "Twilight Princess".

I'd like Mewtwo to replace Lucario. I don't like Lucario. He sucks. I want Mewtwo back. Or have both, whatever.

King K. Rool would be cool, too. In my opinion. Yours are all invalid if they disagree.

Any female character that I can't think of. Seriously, out of 35 characters, like, what, 4-5 are females? Too lazy to go look that up. And that's including Jigglypuff, even. Needs more females.

Besides that, I don't know. Nothing comes to mind right now. Maybe characters from Golden Sun. And Lyn. from Fire Emblem Whatever. Because Natako. That's all.
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2012, 04:28:12 AM »
Lyn's an assist trophy already, so it's pretty much granted that they considered her and then gave her the big red x. :P
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Re: Super Smash Bros 4 Characters
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2012, 05:33:18 AM »
Needs moar battle toads.
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