Final Fantasy VII thread

[Shindo]

Reno's Weapon is an Electro Rod, Even states so in the game booklet.
As for Zack being the one in the tube, there's probably no real proof of who he is, yet, going against Moose here, I believe is Zack because of one question, When has Square ever been known to keep things simple?

[blaze_shinigami]

if they're gonna milk ff7
I want Zack to be alive...
he seemed to be cool on the little vid in the basement
definatley cooler than Cloud,
the game could  have been funnier with Zack
he seemed to be the type

but then again I think Zack would gotten along better with Barret, and the funny arguments would be out of the window...

And Sephiroth would be, "hey you're my clone," and Zack would be like, "shut the hell up." I have parents in Go? (who remembers what that's called? it's been 5 years...)


and then tifa would be mourning or whatever, cuz He prolly would remember cloud after all that, if cloud died instead, and then he'd tell her...

Now that I think about it.. Zack HAS TO DIE

Apex: Do you know if the guy in tube looks anything like Zack (and i'm definately not looking to debate; cuz it's gay)

[Grandy]

 Zack wasn't the old Aeris' friend (I'm sure theres a part of the game where she talk about it)? If she talk to him in the tube and nothing happens, so I bet he isnt Zack.

 But, again, Square never did anything simple...

[wildguy3922]

Zack isn't in Advent Children. Sorry.

[blaze_shinigami]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

nah, i figured as much. he wouldn't fit into anything. Aerith is dead so there's no reason for him to be alive either

[drenrin2120]

Whoa... I thought i knew all there was to do with Zack... I thought he was a clone of cloud, but I never looked into cuz I could've cared less.

This is pretty kewl to know now... And don't you dare call me 5 years late at realizing this!!!

[Osmose]

Originally posted by drenrin2120
Whoa... I thought i knew all there was to do with Zack... I thought he was a clone of cloud, but I never looked into cuz I could've cared less.

This is pretty kewl to know now... And don't you dare call me 5 years late at realizing this!!!

You thought he was a clone of cloud?! Did you even PLAY the game?!

Zack is what Cloud could never be. 7 years ago he went out with Aeris, and then got into SOLDIER. Cloud, promising to Tifa he was going to get into SOLDIER, was ashamed because he failed and became a normal Shinra soldier. He went to Nibelheim with Zack, Sephroth, and someone else, and hid himself from Tifa.

Already Cloud had been shy, but also thought he was better than others, and was a bit mentally unstable. Add to that the shame of not making it into SOLDIER, and he was totally unstable. The Nibelheim incident went as he told it, only instead of Cloud as the guy with Seph, it was Zack. Seph had defeated Zack and moved him aside, but Cloud grabbed Sephroth's sword and stabbed him with it.  Then, as he left the reactor, Seph came back out with Jenova's head and stabbed Cloud, who used his weight to control the sword in his chest and hurl Seph into the Lifestream.

Shinra agents came, and took all the surviving townspeople(except Tifa, who was saved and brought to Midgar by her teach Zangan), and Cused them to become Sephroth clones, or failed ones. Cloud and Zack were exposed to Jenova and Mako, and Cloud was traumatized, while Zack handled it because of his previous Mako and Jenova treatments to become a SOLDIER. In a hidden cutscene in the game, we see how Cloud and Zack escaped, and made their way to Midgar. Cloud was senseless and didn't speak, and could barely walk, and all the while Zack told Cloud stories of how he got into SOLDIER, and what it was like. As they reached the outer wall of Midgar, a group of soldiers chasing them caught up and shot Zack, and then gathered around him and shot him until he was dead. They left Cloud alive, deeming him as not a threat. Cloud, still senseless, took Zack's sword and somehow made it to the Train Station in a day or two where Tifa found him.

The combonation of shame, self hate, regret, mako, Jenova, and fear merged Zack's memories with Clouds, and so he acted like he had been in SOLDIER, and told Tifa he had gotten in and was now Ex-SOLDIER due to the Nibelheim incident. Tifa, confused because she never saw him, plays along, doubting if her own memories are even true. She introduces him to Barret, and AVALANCHE, and that's where the game picks up.

And Zack's home town is Gongola, I think.

[drenrin2120]

wow... Where the hell did i miss that much of the game?
I guess five years is a lot longer than you think, I was also only a 9 year old playing a game that looked kewl. So to me, it seemed different.

Just out of curiosity, where can this secret cut scene be found?
Oh, and do you know what the guy in the cave does?  The one that tells you... you've foguht 767 blah blah monsters... zzz...

[Osmose]

The secret cutscene can be found in Disk Two when going to the Shinra Mansion Basement and examining the test tubes or some papers or something. Somewhere around that area.

And the man who tells you how many battles fought will give you special items if you fight the right amount of battles. I think he's the one with Aeris' Final Limit Break, or it might be that guy who sells items in a little house on the coast.

[Apex]

its the guy who sells item on the little coast.

the man in the cave gives you "Mistel"  i think it was. and you give that to the weapon seller for the item or the limit break. and he gives you a lightning bangle

[drenrin2120]

thanks osmose...

ooo... fuchsia... ahh! bright... BRIGHT green!

[Apex]

now they are organized, and just so that this post isnt a spam.

ultima weapon looks cool (both sword and beast)

[drenrin2120]

lmao...

o! I agree, but the first weapon that gets shot in the face is pretty kewl too.

[Apex]

i always thought that, that weapon was atma or Omega,

since in the fifth one omega is in the final area, and in the sixth one atma you can fight twice.

but it never does state which it is, for all we know it could have been saphire...

[robotroy]

If the guy in the tube was Zack, then Zack was #2, which would mean Cloud was #1.  But we already know Cloud had no tatoo, he was a prototype.  Also, I believe you hear about the person who has tatoo #1 (IIRC it's the Sephiroth you're chasing for most of the game).  

Add that to the list of reasons why that's not Zack.