World Maps

[Almeidaboo]

What the hell is happening to these RPGs of nowadays? Cuz, one of the coolest things about them were the world maps that you WALKED ON. Now we only have these stupid click-and-go world maps that are good for nothing! I hate it!

I also realized that they´re (the game producers) give priority to graphics over the storyline. That´s probably why we do not have more FF7s, FF6s...I was playing Arc of The Lad for PS2. Awsome graphics. Totally over-explored storyline! Ridiculous actually. Same for Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarters: cool graphics, one-of-the-best fight systems...pathetic story. The worst I´ve ever seen. And don´t get me started with Star Ocean 3! I almost cried when i saw the outcome of the plot. A Matrix wannabe!

What s goin on? Express your opinion please.

[Osmose]

Morrowind.

[barnsalot]

Yeah, perhaps the industry has gotten a little side-tracked with graphics.  In fact, that's one reason I'm involved in RPG Maker.  It reminds of the SNES times when graphics weren't amazing but the game was.

I agree with you that world maps are dissapearing from games.  It's sad.  Although, I think one reason the industry has gone this way is to appeal to the masses and give a good first impression.  In a trailer or a commercial for a game the creators can't convey an epic storyline so they use good graphics to draw people in.  Very few new games are ever really "fun" to play for me.  Many of them lack the depth that their predecessors had.

Now that I'm done rambling I would like to comend you on your good taste in Videogames.  
What I mean is Arc The Lad. If you enjoy the PS2 version, then try to pick up the PSX versions (1-3).  In my opinion they were much more fun than the current installment in the series.  

[Majin Sam]

True, story lines are getting worse while graphics take over, the world maps are disappearing for the point and click.
However, we're all still here.  We know what matters, we have the classics, original or otherwise.  We're making games for each other as RPGs become casual player friendly.
We are the ones who are going to get through this phase and remain hardcore RPGers who are willing to spend 100 hours on a deep, involving plot and characters we attach ourselves to and actually give a toss about!

[Drace]

It's just a fase there, the world maps will come back. Just look at the early 90's, all mario wannabee's, I mean, Sonic, crash Bandicoot.

[Almeidaboo]

Originally posted by Drace
It's just a fase there, the world maps will come back. Just look at the early 90's, all mario wannabee's, I mean, Sonic, crash Bandicoot.

IS ANYONE IN SQUARE-ENIX LISTENING TO THIS MAN? HUH? FOR GOD SAKES BRING THE GOOD RPG´S BACK!!!

[AsakuraHao2004]

Ah yes, I just love accedently going the wrong way WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too far and having to go AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALl the way back fighting tons of monsters and perhaps dying because of one simple mistake. Theres enough walking in the towns and villages of RPGs... stop complaining.

[drenrin2120]

 

Ah yes, I just love accedently going the wrong way WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too far and having to go AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALl the way back fighting tons of monsters and perhaps dying because of one simple mistake. Theres enough walking in the towns and villages of RPGs... stop complaining.

ugh... kinda narrow minded eh?

Anyway, that's what an RPG is about. for the most part. but this is true, storyline's are getting redundant...

redundant: adj.   A repeative or overuse of something. the boy was repundant with his lies

But .hack had an okay storyline, really messed up one, I only played the first disk because I didn't have the money to get it because I hadn't gotten it in the first place!

[blackskullwarlock]

I agree with barnsalot on this one. I miss the RPGs like FInal Fantasy 6, Breath of Fire 2 and Lufia. The classics are the best in my opinion.

But that's why we are here no? We create new game based upon classics to bring back the spirit of the classics.

I say: Newer isn't always better

[Apex]

i dont know about you, but i LOVED final fantasy 10's story line, and i am sure im not the only one. not only that but look at the graphics. they are still good even 4 years in the future!

all i am saying, is there are some good rpg's out there. you just gotta look dificulty anymore. EXAMPLES: Paper mario 2, tales of symphonia, final fantasy 10 and a few others.

[Almeidaboo]

Originally posted by Apex
i dont know about you, but i LOVED final fantasy 10's story line, and i am sure im not the only one. not only that but look at the graphics. they are still good even 4 years in the future!

all i am saying, is there are some good rpg's out there. you just gotta look dificulty anymore. EXAMPLES: Paper mario 2, tales of symphonia, final fantasy 10 and a few others.

You said it... a few others. I didn´t play a single bad RPG in PSX...The most games i´ve played were in PSX and they´re all the best. I´m sincerely concerned that FF7 will NEVER be beaten....

And, the world map thing gives the game a more "Adventure where you travel far away" feeling to the game, which I miss in FF10 (which had a good storyline...not FANTASTIC like FFTactics, FF7, Breath Of Fire 2, 3, Star Ocean, etc...)

[Osmose]

Storyline-wise, FFT beats out FF7 anyday. Sadly, a bad translation leaves it so only someone who actually looks it up realizes how mature and involving the plot actually was..

[Almeidaboo]

Originally posted by Osmose
Storyline-wise, FFT beats out FF7 anyday. Sadly, a bad translation leaves it so only someone who actually looks it up realizes how mature and involving the plot actually was..

*Head-bobs* Agreed. I always thought of FFT as one of the best plots EVER. But FF7 has the characters, the events, the system...It´s a whole charismatic package...But, ur right, FFT´s very mature, even more that Front Mission.

[Majin Sam]

RPGs are going downhill in general, although there are a few rare gems floating about.
We love the classics, we know how to make those and so we get RPG Maker and get down to work!
RPGs will become a mixture of old and new elements, and we don't yet know how that'll turn out.  It could already be happening and we haven't realised!
It's no big deal really, just hang tight.

[Drace]

Originally posted by Almeidaboo

quote:

Originally posted by Drace It's just a fase there, the world maps will come back. Just look at the early 90's, all mario wannabee's, I mean, Sonic, crash Bandicoot.

IS ANYONE IN SQUARE-ENIX LISTENING TO THIS MAN? HUH? FOR GOD SAKES BRING THE GOOD RPG´S BACK!!!

What the hell do you mean with this? Do I need to become angry or confused?
But the point is that the world maps will return, if it's this computer age or the next one they'll return. And with next one I mean other console's off course.