Carmen and Ghostclown

[drenrin2120]

Originally posted by MrMister
What have they done? They moderated! OMG I POO PANTS.
And since when is this thread about attacking me? This is about attacking GC and Carmen. And you guys are all being real bitches about it. You team up on them and **** all over the only guy who defends them. This thread is getting nothing done, and needs to be locked. Then at least I could have a little faith in this forum. I guess it's human nature to find something wrong in everything.

Agreed.

[Arcanagirl]

Well is Saikar, and Robotam want opinions I have plenty on this matter.

I own my own site, even though it goes down more then it gets put up, but I run many forums, few for friends site or my own and I know a thing or too in my opinion about posts, threads, and admin stuff.

Rules I tend to follow as a forum owner/admin or site owner.

1. I would delete posts that are flamming spaming bad bad stuff etc... Due to rules I may have that prohibites such behavior to protect the members intrests and right to enjoy the forums.

2. I do not delete post that are not in the right topic, I move it and add an edit note stating why it was moved.

3. Posts that are out date and not responded too I send into a forum that would be just for dead posts and threads.

4. Posts that need to be locked, I lock, but dont delete unless the behavior of the posts are breaking the rules of the forums.

5. and most importantly, respect the members right and opinions. Forums are meant for opinions, ideas, projects, etc..Forums are not meant for anyone to say whether or not a post or thread is good enough to be on the boards. Cause if it doesnt break the rules then it doesnt need to be locked or deleted, its just not how things should go. If thats how things are gonna be around here, then whats to say people dont go deleteing my game posts cause they think another game is better then the other.

Its like when I posted to a very very very old thread, cause when I viewed it for a demo the link was dead so I posted saying it was and I got my you know what chapped at for bumping the thread that needed to be aware the links were dead.

Who cares how old it is or how bad it bites, its not your posts! Its the members posts! You post it in all of all and its not breaking rules, then who ever thinks it should be removed needs to get some since knocked into them. Not all things everyone shares likes in. I dont care what it is or who says it or what not. If you hate someone or dislike their posts, dont read it. Cause other people might actually share the posters views rather then the views of one who thinks stupid posts are worthless. Ha if members start thinking its ok to delete stupid posts, what makes you think they wont target your posts cause they think your game sucks or your opinion bites. no 2 people can always share opinions of the same matter.

I say if the posts broke the reals fine for deleting them, but if not. Then I have to say that is abuse of power.

I dont know what those posts are but I have my sayings, break the rules bye bye post, keep to the rules keep your post.

These forums should be professional when it comes to deciding what is breaking a rule and what isnt. I am also a stick owner, so if I caught admins messing with non rule breaking posts I would take them off the staffing list or demote them until they get their act together.

if Carmen and DC have removed these posts due to them breaking any rules, then good job, else if they deleted them for their own reasons out side the rules, shame shame.

I hope this helps Saikar and Robotam. If not oh well, I hate to see charas in a disaster, I been here good 2 years maybe 3, I dont remember anymore, and I hate seeing all these problems. Make me worry really.

I refuse to watch this place crumble for any means! This place is like a second home, and my friends are here! Charas is a team, why is everyone picking side based on the person rather then based on their actions. Actions speack louder then words, and if actions are in fact violating rules or members right to speak their opinion or games, then thats when people should notice the issue at hand rather then say. "But there a good person, or a good friend", cause in actions personal feelings mean nothing. same way in a all life matter. When people do bad, it dont matter if they were a good person before that, if they did a bad thing, they did a bad thing and if you based all bad deeds on feelings, meany people wouldnt be in jail for murder or in jail or stealing or breaking n entering.

I be damned if anyone try to remove my posts cause they hated it or thought it was pointless.

I say, everyone has an opinion, and everyone else thinks their **** dont stink.

ok I went on again..I always do that when I have a lot to say and trying to make points and opinions to help bother sides.

I am on no ones side right now, but as I said if they did a no no then I am with Saikar and Robotam, but if they helped enforce rules then I have to go with Carmen and DC.

Thats what mediators due in heated battles. They mediate the 2, to make a better out come.

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by MrMister
What have they done? They moderated! OMG I POO PANTS.
And since when is this thread about attacking me? This is about attacking GC and Carmen. And you guys are all being real bitches about it. You team up on them and **** all over the only guy who defends them. This thread is getting nothing done, and needs to be locked. Then at least I could have a little faith in this forum. I guess it's human nature to find something wrong in everything.

quote:

You know if you weren't you, you'd have most of your posts deleted.

I could abuse my powers if I had some.

And quit saying I'm not helping! This thread isn't helping!

First off, this thread isn't about 'attacking' GC and carmen. As far as I know, no one has said that the mods/admins suck or anything along those lines. This thread is about some of their moderating actions, particularly about the excesive amount of topics being locked. We're not attacking GC and carmen, all we're doing is questioning some of their decisions. Needless to say, most of them are good, but a hand full of them are simply too strict.

If anyone is 'attacking' you, its not because of the fact that you're siding with GC and carmen, drenen has clearly sided with them, and no ones attacking him. If anything, its because you're being irrational with comments such as "OMG I POO PANTS" and "Breaking news - Get a life!".

Now why must this topic be closed if its not getting anything done? 90% of all discusions never actually achieve anything, but these are forums, a place for people to meet and talk. And thats exactly what we're doing here, talking and discussing. So as long as people wish to discuss something, they should be free to do so, as long as the topic subject is of an appropriate subject. And remember, just because you may not find any purpose in the topic, it doesn't mean someone else won't be able to find something in it. Otherwise everyone here is mature enough to stop discussing this matter if they feel no need to. And thus if everyone believe a topic doesn't need to be discussed further, it doesn't need to be locked, becuase the topic will become un-active and fade behind all the newer threads.

Everyone should be entitled to post their opinions on this matter, as long as they keep their post civilized.

[Arcanagirl]

man! you said it way better then I did Dragonblaze...lol I think I just rambled about my opinion. I say, what Dragonblaze said.

[Almeidaboo]

I'd NEVER attack GC or Carmen cause I´ve always had the utmost respect to them. You can ask them that!

First thing I did after I had an argument with DF was PMing them with apologies, because I didn´t want them to think me as an ***hole. Because I know they´re not bad people or moderators.

But one thing they are: human. And thay have flaws. If they´re deleting too many posts and locking too many threads this' a matter to be DISCUSSED.

Yes Mr. Mr., the MODERATED. But the did it far across their need to moderate. Their joib is to lock, delete and edit whenever is NECESSARY, and not for silly reasons.

In my post I used a word that can´t be taken as a curse word having thought you say fvck all the time. I just wrote sh!t. And that was editted!

That wasn´t necessary: the reaction was not proportinate to the "law breakin", and that´s what we want to fix!

[Rune_of_Punishment]

I just love how everyone reads my posts. Stop being immature pups and stop bickering about Mr. Mister, Carmen, and GC. Instead of getting your panties in a wad about it, figure out a way where this can no longer be a problem in the future. It's not that hard.

[drenrin2120]

Well, if it's censored, then it's obviously something offensive. I would've edited it too.

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by Rune_of_Punishment
figure out a way where this can no longer be a problem in the future. It's not that hard.

And what exactly do you think we've been doing this whole time? We can't just 'magically' expect this problem to fix itself. Theres only one way to fix this problem, and thats to talk about it. If this was never brought and if we never talked about it or discussed it, nothing would have happened. And when it comes to something that dirrectly relates to charas itself, you can't expect it to resolve itself quickly or easily. You say it isn't that hard, perhaps you can solve it? And remember, to stop talking about this won't resolve anything.

Once again, we're not bickering about GC or carmen, all we're doing is talking about a few of their decisions as modderators.

As for Mr Mr, he posted his opinions, all we've done is posted ours in return, the same goes visa versa. If anyone posts here, they have to be willing to accept that people may disagree with them.


 

Well, if it's censored, then it's obviously something offensive. I would've edited it too.

Everyone agrees with you there, no one has any doubt that if a topic is truely offensive, it should be locked, censored, or whatever.

Its the topics and posts that people enjoy posting in and yet get locked or deleted for either some minor rule breaking or something that isn't actually a rule. Take this one for example, we're not trying to insult GC or carmen, nor hurt them or flame them, no ones really flaming eachother, everyone is posting their own opinions on a big topic in charas, in the end, there isn't really any rule breaking here, should a topic like this be locked or deleted? Should we not even be able to question a mods decisions? And most topics that are needlessly locked aren't because of things as contraversial as this.

[Grandy]

Originally posted by Rune_of_Punishment
I just love how everyone reads my posts. Stop being immature pups and stop bickering about Mr. Mister, Carmen, and GC. Instead of getting your panties in a wad about it, figure out a way where this can no longer be a problem in the future. It's not that hard.

 I was just enjoying the show and didn't want to get involved this time, but this post has called my attention:

 YOU said no one read your post, but at the same time, YOU just afirmed they were bickering GC, MM, and C (for short), and all this time, they were clearing explaining they're NOT, they're just voicing their opinions over a FEW, not ALL, not MANY, not even SOME, just A FEW decisions, they're not being immature, as a matter of fact, YOUR post was the most immature until now, of course MINE is immature as well, but I'm not even caring.

 And if it's not that hard, give the solution yourself.

[Almeidaboo]

Sh!t is offensive now?

EDIT: NOT TO MENTION, that the phrase was sokmething like " Dude, I´m crazy to play this sh!t"

gimme a break.

[Meiscool-2]

Originally posted by Rune_of_Punishment
I just love how everyone reads my posts. Stop being immature pups and stop bickering about Mr. Mister, Carmen, and GC. Instead of getting your panties in a wad about it, figure out a way where this can no longer be a problem in the future. It's not that hard.

*ahem* You post your ideas first Mr Morals. Yay! Figure out a totally not hard idea just like you said!

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

 

Avoid Foul Language

Please refrain from cursing in the forums. It is basically not allowed, but TRY to be clean. Some people do get offended by foul language so please, keep it clean from any temptation. Most of the times cursing is considered flaming.

Not to add this is the "rule" for cursing. as far as I am corcern sh!t is trying to keep it clean.

But anyway no one is flaming, the only person done so, so far is Mrmr. Everyone is else tweaky.

[Linkizcool]

C'mon dudes, be mature!
There have been an unneccesary amount of locks, deletes, etc., but mods should first pm the poster and tell him/her what he/she is doing wrong first. We are a FORUM. Back when the Romans were PWNing other civilizations, the Forum was the area drained by the Cloaca Maxima, and became the center of Roman peoples's social lives. If posts are deleted, then we can't have any discussions, which is the whole friggin' point of places like this.

[SaiKar]

Just so you know... the point of this thread is not to "reach a decision." That's my job. You're not voting. You're not a committee or a task force.  You're not here to solve any problems.

Focus on saying what you believe, and debating with people you disagree with, and let the mods worry about judgement and policy later on.

[Arcanagirl]

I agree to the fullest. This isnt a court hearing where we are jury and mods are judges. No need to get bickery at eachother either cause this thread is meant for opinions and what people feel about the forums and rules. I think some are getting carried away, but its nothing too seriously carried away.  Just remember people have opinions.

As the saying goes, "Opinions are like @$$, everyone has one and everyone else thinks the other's stinks!"  

I love that saying.