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Originally posted by Sephiroth rocks quote:Heres a question: How did they decide that the entire universe was 15 billion years old? Since radiation has a fixed speed (300.000 km/s) you can find out when the radiation was originally sent out from the object by looking at the object's distance. Scientists has found out that it's impossible to look further away than 15 billion light years thus meaning that the radiation from objects further away hasn't reached the earth yet meaning that universe must be 15 billion years old.Actually if you look at the theories you discover that they're much more well-documented than many thinks. They don't just make stuff up like religions do.
Originally posted by OsmoseSince radiation has a fixed speed (300.000 km/s) you can find out when the radiation was originally sent out from the object by looking at the object's distance. Scientists has found out that it's impossible to look further away than 15 billion light years thus meaning that the radiation from objects further away hasn't reached the earth yet meaning that universe must be 15 billion years old.Actually if you look at the theories you discover that they're much more well-documented than many thinks. They don't just make stuff up like religions do.That's all fine and well if you assume that the Earth is at the center of the Universe, which most people are pretty sure we're not. If they consistantly cannot look farther than 15 billion light years away (And I'm even a bit skeptical as to the range of Hubble, or whatever they use if they don't use Hubble anymore), than they may just be hitting the maximum range of the telescope. Certainly it is convincing proof that the Universe is AT LEAST 15 billion years old, but it doesn't come across as being the actual age.There's people who say dinosaurs didn't exist. Of course, there's also people who say the US never landed on the Moon. I'd guess that science is pretty accurate in saying that dinosaurs are millions of years old, considering all the techniques of dating they have. Meanwhile, the Bible promotes faith rather than proof, which, although is a decent concept, doesn't come off as very convincing against the infinate possibilities otherwise.Certainly the Bible provides some nice moral standards for society, even though far too many people take this as a perogative to punish or dislike those who do not follow those standards. The possibility of the events contained within it actually happening, however, are not that great statistically.
Originally posted by Razorquote:Originally posted by OsmoseSince radiation has a fixed speed (300.000 km/s) you can find out when the radiation was originally sent out from the object by looking at the object's distance. Scientists has found out that it's impossible to look further away than 15 billion light years thus meaning that the radiation from objects further away hasn't reached the earth yet meaning that universe must be 15 billion years old.Actually if you look at the theories you discover that they're much more well-documented than many thinks. They don't just make stuff up like religions do.That's all fine and well if you assume that the Earth is at the center of the Universe, which most people are pretty sure we're not. If they consistantly cannot look farther than 15 billion light years away (And I'm even a bit skeptical as to the range of Hubble, or whatever they use if they don't use Hubble anymore), than they may just be hitting the maximum range of the telescope. Certainly it is convincing proof that the Universe is AT LEAST 15 billion years old, but it doesn't come across as being the actual age.There's people who say dinosaurs didn't exist. Of course, there's also people who say the US never landed on the Moon. I'd guess that science is pretty accurate in saying that dinosaurs are millions of years old, considering all the techniques of dating they have. Meanwhile, the Bible promotes faith rather than proof, which, although is a decent concept, doesn't come off as very convincing against the infinate possibilities otherwise.Certainly the Bible provides some nice moral standards for society, even though far too many people take this as a perogative to punish or dislike those who do not follow those standards. The possibility of the events contained within it actually happening, however, are not that great statistically.This is why I love you Moose. Especially that part about the universe being at least 15 billion years old.Also, I've seen this site. It was absolutely awesome. It totally disproved the logic of Noah's Ark, of how it was impossible for a flood to cover the entire earth, how Noah couldn't possibly collect 2 of EVERY animal, and how its definately impossible that this only happened 6000 years ago.If I can find it, I'll post it.Also
Originally posted by Kijuki_MagazakiFrom carbon dating or something.
Originally posted by TomiLet me repeat. Do not take the stories of the Old Testament literally. When these stories were first written, they where the kind of stories people would tell around campfires. Its like our ghost stories, but their purpose was different. People were trying to find out how everything in their lives came to be. The Creation Story (there are actually 3, one of which is the Garden of Eden one): This was used by the ancient people to make sense of their surroundings. And Drace, the whole seperating of the waters above and below was said because, in the ancient world, the people thought the sky was a giant clear dome that had water above it. God also was supposidly above it too. Whenever it rained, God was opening doors in the middle of the dome, and some of the water would come out. And the reason the Bible says that the sun revolved around the earth was because thats what the ancient people thought until science (which didn't really exist then) proved us differently. Again, Noah's Ark, Garden of Eden, etc. are ALL stories. There is metaphorical reasoning behind most the stories in the bible. If you can just try to look past the literal (it is NOT a list of facts), you will see that there is a greater message on how people need to live their lives. And for clarification, I did not come up with this myself. This was a Scriptures class at my Catholic High School.
Originally posted by RazorSpace is huge. Huger than XBox. .
Originally posted by TomiActually, Catholicism is a subset of Christianity. So definitely not totally different. Same basic set of beliefs, but different way of practicing them basically.Also, it is the same God and same Bible, so it is relevant.
