Net neutrality

[Sephiroth rocks]

Yes but the world works different now than in 1927. Now the UN and USA would ensure that a depression wouldn't lead to a world war.

[ZeroKirbyX]

UN wouldn't do ****. They never do. Desperation ALWAYS leads to war. If anyone came in during a second depression and tried to a stop war, the peoples anger would EXPLODE in violent ways. Riots, death, violence would occur.

[Sephiroth rocks]

A global despression could happen if the fossil fuels were abadoned, it's not like it's destined to happen. You should be able to at least switch from one kind of fuel to another without causing an apocalypse. If the international community can't even do that the world would've ended long ago.

[ZeroKirbyX]

The international community can do it, but not fast enough for the whining Greenpeace idiots. Again it can be done, but not effectively in 10-20 years. In 10-20 years ships would be rebuilt, cars would be redesigned, import/exports would be lessened.

[Drace]

Originally posted by SonicChaos7
We're still not at the point where it's a need to worry. If we have a global flood, things will work out how they need. If we all die, oh well. It was meant to happen.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD!!!!!

[Archem]

Retards and gentlemen, why the hell would anyone completely convert from one type of engine and fuel to another in no time? It would happen gradually, and at any rate, various forms of alternative energy can be used (don't want a corn-based reliant engine? Buy a hydrogen car), thus ensuring that no fuel source is exhausted. And due to the gradual change, there will be plenty of time to produce a usable form of said fuels, as well as time to prepare for the mass-market's use of it. Stop and think "how could these things be used without being vetoed by it's faults?" before you open your mouths. And I don't think too many people will worry about paying more money for a car (they could still pay per month, just for a year or so longer, and prices are decreasing all the time). And lastly, SonicChaos, you're quite the pessimist, aren't you? Shooting down any proposal mentioned by any forumer? Positive ideas are the best ones by far, so try out a few. Sephiroth rocks, just stop trying and watch the thread go by. ZKX, please don't egg these two imbeciles on.

Back on topic: I want my net neutrality! My internet sites are good for me, and losing net neutrality is a violation of the Bill of Rights, violating the rights to freedom of press and freedom of speech, specifically.

[SonicChaos7]

Originally posted by Archem2
Retards and gentlemen, why the hell would anyone completely convert from one type of engine and fuel to another in no time? It would happen gradually, and at any rate, various forms of alternative energy can be used (don't want a corn-based reliant engine? Buy a hydrogen car), thus ensuring that no fuel source is exhausted. And due to the gradual change, there will be plenty of time to produce a usable form of said fuels, as well as time to prepare for the mass-market's use of it. Stop and think "how could these things be used without being vetoed by it's faults?" before you open your mouths. And I don't think too many people will worry about paying more money for a car (they could still pay per month, just for a year or so longer, and prices are decreasing all the time). And lastly, SonicChaos, you're quite the pessimist, aren't you? Shooting down any proposal mentioned by any forumer? Positive ideas are the best ones by far, so try out a few. Sephiroth rocks, just stop trying and watch the thread go by. ZKX, please don't egg these two imbeciles on.

Back on topic: I want my net neutrality! My internet sites are good for me, and losing net neutrality is a violation of the Bill of Rights, violating the rights to freedom of press and freedom of speech, specifically.

I'm not a pessimist. Far from it actually. I don't shoot down people's proposals, but absurdity and worrying about something that will happen probably 200 years into our future or further shouldn't be our concern. If we can't do anything about what's right in front of us currently, then how are we supposed to do anything about the future? And for one, I never said a change in fuel source wouldn't happen. It's just harder than the current. Yes, overtime we can create these new fuel sources, which is something I was trying to imply in my post.

[ZeroKirbyX]

I know that things occur gradually. Seppy was insisting we do it now, and that just won't work.

And yes Drace, I too wish to become a fish and swim with Kevin Costner.

[Meiscool-2]

Originally posted by Ace of Spades
Ok. When a volcano erupts, it spews out so much ash and other such chemicals into the atmosphere. When this happens, it's about 5 times worse than what we put into the air for say, 10 years. Now volcanoes have been erupting for how many years? And did anything happen because of it? No. Mother earth fixes herself after such incidents, and she does it after we put our crap into the air as well.

So, you're saying that volcanos are our true enemy? I see... we must send our troops to Africa!

[aboutasoandthis]

Stay away from Africa. Go to Hawaii, or even Guam. Lived there for a couple years and it's nice.

Again I'm standing by my opinions about why people don't want net neutrality: for money, and because some people think things like porn, free downloads, and just bad sites should be even harder to access.

Actually, what makes Bush a good president? I wanna get some of your opinions.

Good things I like or liked about him:
+He responded well to Iraq AT FIRST.
+He was planning tax cuts.

Bad things:
+Cutting Education to help pay for the war.
+The No Child Left Behind Act (There are a lot of sick things here. This same act was also one of his political tools back in Texas.)
+7 Day response to New Orleans (Should probably blame Congress instead. Sorry. Good friend has family there. He's white.)
+Putting a lot of support behind Communications and Convention based buisnesses (The one my dad used to work at closed down and he lost his job along with thousands of others. He has a better job now though.

[ZeroKirbyX]

Don't you bring up New Orleans. It is NOT the federal governments responsibility to be the mama and hold their hand. That mayor was the biggest dumbass I've seen in a while. First, he REFUSED to bus people out on buses provided by the government. Second, it is HIS city! He was elected to handle things like this, but he opted out on his duties. "Chocolate City". WHAT THE F*** WAS THAT!?

Bush did and is still doing well with Iraq. Things are kind of sloppy now though because he kept trying to change plans to try and cushion those whining politicians. He did, and the original plans and the revised plans began to kink. But 9/11 is our Pearl Harbor. It should have brought us together as a country and given us something to stand for. What did it do? Give fatass like Ted Kennedy and Michael Moore an excuse to stir up trouble and give THEMSELVES more power.

[Tomi]

Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Don't you bring up New Orleans. It is NOT the federal governments responsibility to be the mama and hold their hand. That mayor was the biggest dumbass I've seen in a while. First, he REFUSED to bus people out on buses provided by the government. Second, it is HIS city! He was elected to handle things like this, but he opted out on his duties. "Chocolate City". WHAT THE F*** WAS THAT!?

Bush did and is still doing well with Iraq. Things are kind of sloppy now though because he kept trying to change plans to try and cushion those whining politicians. He did, and the original plans and the revised plans began to kink. But 9/11 is our Pearl Harbor. It should have brought us together as a country and given us something to stand for. What did it do? Give fatass like Ted Kennedy and Michael Moore an excuse to stir up trouble and give THEMSELVES more power.

AMEN!

[Osmose]

In no specific order:

 

Sonic: I'm not a pessimist. Far from it actually. I don't shoot down people's proposals, but absurdity and worrying about something that will happen probably 200 years into our future or further shouldn't be our concern. If we can't do anything about what's right in front of us currently, then how are we supposed to do anything about the future?

Using this logic, we should simply pass on our problems to our children so that they can live a horrible life overshadowed by inevitable doom. That might be fine to you, but most people want to do something to improve the world for future generations - it's the only way we can really validate our existance. Without that goal, we have no purpose and shall stagnate and die, being little more than a blemish on the Earth, defeated by ourselves.

 

ZeroKirby: There were giagantic floods when the ice age ended. People got past that one.

I'd rather not have to force the future generations to go through then when I can do something in my life today to try and avoid that.

 

ZeroKirby: To all you non-American voters, or even future voters, shut the hell up about our president. If you don't like who's in charge, move your *** over here, get US citizenship and vote Democrat. If you don't take part in the desicion, you can't be upset by the outcome, don't work like that.

Okay, I'm American, and I say Bush sucks. You're going to have to deal with that pain and horror that you get when you hear that someone else doesn't like the guy.

 

ZeroKirby: People are complaining about Bush because they don't know how elections work. You don't vote for who you think will listen to you and bark when you command. You vote for who you think shares your same interests. After he's elected and he got your vote, you need to shut up if you don't like it, for you are a moron. If you didn't vote for the winner, maybe get your 20% of friends to go vote next time instead of watching Maury. Bush is a good president, but people need a figure to blame in times of trouble, and president of the good ol USA fits that role nicely. Look at Wilson. People HATED him during WWI, because he was someone you could blame for your problems. But looking back, we realize he did a good job in his situation. I'd like to see these Bush haters handle the situation with a surefire everybody wins plan. Granted some Bush appointments weren't the best, but Al Zawababa is dead so we're only left with Osama in terms of high power Alquida wise. Huzzah.

There are three things wrong with this last one.

1. The United States was built on the premise that people would be able to complain without being told not to. I vote for Bob. Bob does something I don't like. How was I supposed to know he was going to do that? He told me he was going to do good stuff! That makes me angry. So I complain. There is no logic in telling me to shut up because if I do, Bob might do more stupid things, thinking that he's pleasing me, when in fact he's making me angry. It's the complaining that gives the President the feedback to take into consideration on his next decision. Yes, he probably will never see these forum posts, but complaining about him is still an important part of the political system, as skewed as it is.
2. People didn't hate Wilson during WWI. It was actually pretty divided, since he had the support of anti-war Americans for his attempts at avoiding the war for as long as possible. And looking back, Wilson actually made a crapload of mistakes - he was racist, he attempted to supress any public resistance of the war once he entered the US into it, and his failure to get the Senate to pass the US's entry into the League of Nations is ranked as the 4th worst presidential mistake ever made.
3. His name is Al-Zarqawi. Zawabawa is the most horrible made-up Arab name I've ever heard.

Oh, and one more thing about Net Neutrality: It still has the Senate to get through, and there's much more support for it in the Senate than in the House, meaning there is still a chance for it to be saved somehow.

[aboutasoandthis]

You do know the federal government controls the budget for public safety right? The levy was included. I don't know why but everyone blames global warming and Hurricane Katrina for what happened. Yes there was damage, but what happened in New Orleans came from the LEVY SYSTEM BREAKING. People should stop using Global Warming as an excuse for it (This statement isn't directed at you ZeroKirbyX). But come on. Why would it take our own military 7 DAYS TO GET THERE WHEN THERE WERE PEOPLE WITHOUT POWER, FOOD, OR CLEAN WATER. MILLIONS WERE DEAD. This might sound wrong to you but I DON'T GIVE A **** about what's happening in other countries when we have our own homeless, our own oppressed, our own discriminated, and our own poor.

About 9/11. At first I had the same thoughts as you did. But I came to believe that we were the ones who trained Al Queida (If I spelled that right.) It makes sense to me that we would train a small rebel faction to take down a dictator, only for them to turn on us. I'm NOT saying that it's true at all so if you can, bear with me.

Micheal Moore and Ted Kennedy (who ever the hell he is) shouldn't use politics for money and fame. I agree with you there. I don't even know if the stuff in Farenheit 9/11 was true. It probably isn't. Still, It is fact that the Bush family has a well established oil buisness so even if he's not doing anything wrong, he's gonna have contraversy.

EDIT===========
Kudos to the above poster!

[Weregnome]

George Bush, to the view of the world, is an idiot who is on holiday 95% of the time. I have no clue what he has done for the USA, to be honest I don't really care. We in Australia have to deal with a Bush-cock-sucking and I'll-let-international-countries-arse-****-me Prime Minister John Howard, who I hope, will be murdered as soon as possible with the rest of the liberal government (ok maybe not murder but frozen and dropped into the ocean). Our nation is turning into mini-america- poor class and the rich class. My family and barely making the minimal, and the new Industrial Legistration Rules could make my family completely poor if my dad's job goes down the **** hole. Plus the stupid aggrements Johny Boy makes with America for trade etc (and the rest of the world now) make the Australian industries nearly obselete. .. Now thats a reason why we hate PM Howard and Pres Bush.

The Iraq War is modern day Vietnam. The way Bush went about it was retarded, and its so easy to see it was for oil. Saddam Hussien had nothing to do with 9/11. He is a very bad person, who deserves whatever is to come. They shouldm have sent a crack team in their to assasinate him. We wouldn't have had Australian soldiers and people dieing otherwise... (due to the treaty set after WW2).

Global Warming is affecting the world so much that the idea of not doing anything about it is stupid. Oh, and poeple stating that america is blamed for everything is so highly retarded. If u want to point fingersd look to where the Industrial Revolution started. Global Warming need s to start being fixed. Yes, it may not be hotter, but it just doesn't affect heat. With the melting of [polar caps, and other effects by ozone depletion, you have small insignificant things like droughts, floodings, more cyclones, unstable changes in weather patterns (2 years ago we had a summer which barely got over 32 degrees celsius). I heard that there was HHO (hybrid hydrogen oxygen) created by an american which can solve the petroluem decrease for some time, with water and oil being ablke to be fused to drive cars. Its apparantly alot more evironmentally friendly and alot better then standard petroluem. Changes won't happen immidently (sp?) but it needs to be started now.

On this net thing, there is no way they will allow it through. Gambling sites, pornography sites and paying sites for othermeans make too much money, and the government have a complete up roar from gamers, companies etc. It wojn't pass through.