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ZeroKirby: There were giagantic floods when the ice age ended. People got past that one.I'd rather not have to force the future generations to go through then when I can do something in my life today to try and avoid that.
Originally posted by OsmoseWeregnome - you've got it mixed up. We WANT it to pass through. COPE is what we didn't want - it opened the door for internet access companies to discriminate on what pages we view. Net Neutrality is now needed - we've already been crapped on, now we want to wipe up the mess.Although it doesn't effect you at all. You're not in America. COPE can only affect companies that provide internet that are based in America.
Originally posted by OsmoseIn no specific order: quote:Sonic: I'm not a pessimist. Far from it actually. I don't shoot down people's proposals, but absurdity and worrying about something that will happen probably 200 years into our future or further shouldn't be our concern. If we can't do anything about what's right in front of us currently, then how are we supposed to do anything about the future? Using this logic, we should simply pass on our problems to our children so that they can live a horrible life overshadowed by inevitable doom. That might be fine to you, but most people want to do something to improve the world for future generations - it's the only way we can really validate our existance. Without that goal, we have no purpose and shall stagnate and die, being little more than a blemish on the Earth, defeated by ourselves. quote:ZeroKirby: There were giagantic floods when the ice age ended. People got past that one. I'd rather not have to force the future generations to go through then when I can do something in my life today to try and avoid that. quote:ZeroKirby: To all you non-American voters, or even future voters, shut the hell up about our president. If you don't like who's in charge, move your *** over here, get US citizenship and vote Democrat. If you don't take part in the desicion, you can't be upset by the outcome, don't work like that. Okay, I'm American, and I say Bush sucks. You're going to have to deal with that pain and horror that you get when you hear that someone else doesn't like the guy. quote:ZeroKirby: People are complaining about Bush because they don't know how elections work. You don't vote for who you think will listen to you and bark when you command. You vote for who you think shares your same interests. After he's elected and he got your vote, you need to shut up if you don't like it, for you are a moron. If you didn't vote for the winner, maybe get your 20% of friends to go vote next time instead of watching Maury. Bush is a good president, but people need a figure to blame in times of trouble, and president of the good ol USA fits that role nicely. Look at Wilson. People HATED him during WWI, because he was someone you could blame for your problems. But looking back, we realize he did a good job in his situation. I'd like to see these Bush haters handle the situation with a surefire everybody wins plan. Granted some Bush appointments weren't the best, but Al Zawababa is dead so we're only left with Osama in terms of high power Alquida wise. Huzzah. There are three things wrong with this last one.1. The United States was built on the premise that people would be able to complain without being told not to. I vote for Bob. Bob does something I don't like. How was I supposed to know he was going to do that? He told me he was going to do good stuff! That makes me angry. So I complain. There is no logic in telling me to shut up because if I do, Bob might do more stupid things, thinking that he's pleasing me, when in fact he's making me angry. It's the complaining that gives the President the feedback to take into consideration on his next decision. Yes, he probably will never see these forum posts, but complaining about him is still an important part of the political system, as skewed as it is.2. People didn't hate Wilson during WWI. It was actually pretty divided, since he had the support of anti-war Americans for his attempts at avoiding the war for as long as possible. And looking back, Wilson actually made a crapload of mistakes - he was racist, he attempted to supress any public resistance of the war once he entered the US into it, and his failure to get the Senate to pass the US's entry into the League of Nations is ranked as the 4th worst presidential mistake ever made.3. His name is Al-Zarqawi. Zawabawa is the most horrible made-up Arab name I've ever heard.Oh, and one more thing about Net Neutrality: It still has the Senate to get through, and there's much more support for it in the Senate than in the House, meaning there is still a chance for it to be saved somehow.
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Originally posted by SonicChaos7****, people. Since when did I become a heartless bastard? Look, I never said that nothing was happening. I'm saying that a global flood will not happen SOON. Before you go off and spill about how you think I don't care about future generations, think about it. No matter what we do, the ozone will deteriorate by itself anyway, and it has aid from everything, volcanoes, cows, and other things. You suggest we kill off all the cows to ensure that the ozone won't disappear? It's going to happen, whether you think stopping the use of gasoline is going to prevent it or not. I do care about future generations. My POV is that it's going to happen, whether we like it or not, but not anytime soon. And just because I think differently from you, I have no place in the debate? That's a sack full of ****.
And as it is, technically there is no hard scientific evidence that Global Warming is even real, it's conjecture and theory. As it stands, the world's average temperature has always gone up every year, always, it didn't start now.
the ozone will deteriorate by itself anyway
Originally posted by Moosetroop11quote:Originally posted by SonicChaos7****, people. Since when did I become a heartless bastard? Look, I never said that nothing was happening. I'm saying that a global flood will not happen SOON. Before you go off and spill about how you think I don't care about future generations, think about it. No matter what we do, the ozone will deteriorate by itself anyway, and it has aid from everything, volcanoes, cows, and other things. You suggest we kill off all the cows to ensure that the ozone won't disappear? It's going to happen, whether you think stopping the use of gasoline is going to prevent it or not. I do care about future generations. My POV is that it's going to happen, whether we like it or not, but not anytime soon. And just because I think differently from you, I have no place in the debate? That's a sack full of ****.>.> What I mean is, your argument is that it's going to happen anyway, so it doesn't matter. What's the point in using that answer to every question, when we already know your view? Sorry, I don't want to push anyone out of this, I just want a fair debate. quote:And as it is, technically there is no hard scientific evidence that Global Warming is even real, it's conjecture and theory. As it stands, the world's average temperature has always gone up every year, always, it didn't start now. There is actually hard scientific evidence >.>You peeps, I'm not telling you to buy solar panels and crap XD I'm just saying that, as things stand, with America having immensely cheap gas and petrol (trust me, you do) you just buy cars which unnecisarily pollute (Do fewer miles to the gallon or whatever) and you are the biggest producer of greenhouse gases in the world. To put in perspective, I can't remember exactly but if the USA was seperated so that each state was a country, Texas alone would rank amongst the top greenhouse gas producers. It's just stupid. quote:the ozone will deteriorate by itself anyway Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. Global warming isn't anything to do with the ozone layer.
which generally means that all Internet sites must be treated equally
