The RANT thread

[Meiscool-2]

California is planning to split from the nation anyways.

[Dominicy]

(I always wanted to say nice avatar btw) well, whatever, this is dumb.  I personally don't like america that much and that's my personal opinion, don't say I should be blown up for it please.

[Meiscool-2]

Originally posted by Dominicy
(I always wanted to say nice avatar btw)

You see that Archem? He likes MY avatar.

[Osmose]

America - Land of the freedom to be able to tell others about how you wish they didn't have the freedom you're using to tell them this.

[Weregnome]

Originally posted by Osmose
America - Land of the freedom to be able to tell others about how you wish they didn't have the freedom you're using to tell them this.

To be honest, I hate Bush, but what I've been told my mates you went to America on holidays was that its really great over there. I would never be interested in living in America, but it would be pretty cool to visit california, new york and miami

[Dominicy]

Originally posted by Osmose
America - Land of the freedom to be able to tell others about how you wish they didn't have the freedom you're using to tell them this.

says who?

[Linkizcool]

My friend would like eat you for dissing Dir En Grey. She like wants to marry Daisuke.

[Archem]

Well, I feel the same way (about the japan-wannabees). But what's worse is the people who TRY to be like that, and FAIL. I'm talking about the people who only talk about the Cartoon Network adopted animes and buying into th recent wave of Hot Topic-carried anime-themed clothing. These people need to get a ****ing life!

[rant]I truly hate the recent anti-video game movement that politicians and lawyers have been campaigning. There is no proof showing any increase in violence of violent tendancies that stem from playing video games. Quite the opposite, in fact. If these **** HEADS would look into this they'd know that the trend of violent acts has significantly DECREASED over the past thirty years. Not all video games are bad, either. These crusades suggest that every game has a negative impact on society, but as any gamer would know, this is untrue. A majority of games are either nonviolent or have lower levels of violent acts than those found in more voilent games.

A lot of bullshit "facts" are slung around as well. One of the more common ones is that you are forced to kill characters or objects that reflect virtuous or important things or people in real life. More often than not, htis is untrue, as there are alternatives, and you are often punished, not rewarded for these acts. Most of the time, these options are added for increased freedom, not as a cynical reward system.

"Violence in games is training our kids to recreate these kind of things in real life." This is easily disproven, and no facts exist to found it. Most people who play games claim to play violent ones for the same reason as nonviolent ones, which is, for fun. And even those who do play based on some real-life phenomenon play in a fantasy world do their acts there so that no people are actually harmed. It's equally effective at reducing stress and burning off steam than taking a gun to a preson's head. And the idea of LOSING TOUCH WITH WHAT'S REAL AND WHAT'S A VIDEO GAME is rediculous! There are many and many a difference between what is and what is not, and there are few similarities held universally among games of violent origin.

It has been said that DOOM was used to train the students who staged the Columbine shooting, but let's think rationally: DOOM would be very useless in such a situation because no student or teacher would be firing rockets or plasma rifle fire at the attackers, and an empty map would be the same as blueprints or pictures in the plannig stages of the attack. And the thought of making a 3D world is possible in many ways with many programs, most of which are much more advanced and much easier to aquire today than in the past. Most of these kind of programs don't even have anything to DO with violence!

Violence is not sent into the thought process of a person by playing a video game, it's ingrained into our minds by instinct! Take any and all conflicts in the middle east, for example. Do any of those extensive violent acts have anything to do with video games? No! Let's predate video games: Where did the idea of extreme violence come from during World War II? The Vietnam Conflict? The FRENCH ****ing REBELLION?!! And what about music, books, and movies? These days, all those have violence involved, at least to some level. It's the same as any video game, that they're divided by content and levels of graphic content. Most voilence tied to a form of media is related to movies, not games! But let's not single out movies now, let's expand to books. In such timeless classics as Edgar Allan Poe's The Tell-Tale Heart, the main character murders the generous old man who shelters him, and for no reason other than his interesting eye! Or John Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men, George kills Lenny, but only because Lenny kills another character. Surely the circumstances of these murders are quite different and emotional, but the idea of violence is still held strong.

Video games, like most other violence-containing media, is rated and given warnings about its content if it is objectable. In the United States, there is a LAW that states that video games that have aquired an M rating can only be bought by individuals of the age 17 or more, and MUST show a form of identification. At this point, violence commited by the user is unavoidable, because if the user is of a young age, then the parent is at fault for introducing such a violent work into the hands of the impressionable and moldable minds of children. If the user is above the age requirement, then it is the user's fault for unreasonably attempting fictional actions in real life, but then again, at that age, the violence is still unavoidable because the user would have to be mentally unstable or previously criminally inclined to try out such an act anyways.

Violence doesn't exist solely in video games, and violence doesn't stem exclusively from video games. But given the recent news coverage due to their reenactable and sometimes coincidental, unfamiliar, and (as a natural result of instinct) untrusted stand-point, they are singled out ans made a scapegoat. And I am against that, and I can see the truth.

[/rant]

EDIT: Lordy, but there were quite a many new posts since the start of writing this post. Minor touch-ups were neccessary to make parts of this post relevant.

[ZeroKirbyX]

Know what? You think America sucks? How about instead of bitching and making so-called witty remarks, why don't you either try and DO something about it or get the hell out. We don't need assholes that do nothing but complain without trying to fix it.

But this topic isn't about that, it's about Japanese posers. ON-TOPIC PLEASE.

ARCHEM GETS (40) AWSOME POINTS

[Linkizcool]

Archem = pwnage.

They did a study about violent video games, and they did prove that they ingrain violence, but if you played it for so long that you would want to kill people, you'ld probably be too fat and lazy to anyways.

[Dominicy]

Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Know what? You think America sucks? How about instead of bitching and making so-called witty remarks, why don't you either try and DO something about it or get the hell out. We don't need assholes that do nothing but complain without trying to fix it.

But this topic isn't about that, it's about Japanese posers. ON-TOPIC PLEASE.

ARCHEM GETS (40) AWSOME POINTS

I AM FREAKING STATING MY OPINION! NOT BITCHING!  omg, is that so hard to understand?  I simply said that the US is by far not the best place in the world  does that make me a communist?  does that make me evil?  does that make me some kinda devil worshipping monster?  no, by no stretch, so atleast give me the decensy of speaking to me like I'm not that crap you just laid in the toilet!

[Meiscool-2]

You stating your opinion = bitching

[ZeroKirbyX]

That post was not aimed at you, but more to people in general. But as I saw you were not whining, I added in the part about "witty remarks," what with the relating us all to Mr. Potato Heads.

[Osmose]

Originally posted by Dominicy

Originally posted by Osmose
America - Land of the freedom to be able to tell others about how you wish they didn't have the freedom you're using to tell them this.

says who?[/B]

It's not the kind of statement you can throw a "Says who" at, really. Take for example, ZeroKirby. In America, he has the freedom to walk over to me in the middle of a street and say, "Hey Moose, stop saying America sucks.", basically saying he doesn't want me to have the freedom to say, "America sucks." It's his right to want and say that to me (Provided none of my own rights are actually infringed upon, IE he doesn't stab me in the throat so I can't speak or stop me from walking to where I want to go if I don't feel like standing there listening to him)

Of course, by that point he has basically raped the freedom that his favorite country stands for, but that's the beauty of it - he can!

[ZeroKirbyX]

Hahaha Moose, I see what you did there. Clever.

But he's right, that's why I love America. I love it because Moose can say that it sucks. I love it because I can say Moose is wrong and it doesn't suck. I just don't think you should take that freedom for granted. If you don't like they way things are being run, you should exercise your freedom beyond just complaining about what you don't like. You should use the full extent of your freedom and try and gain a position allowed by the freedoms to change it.

In other countries, you can't complain about it, and you definately can't try to change it. But here you can. If you don't like the way things are going, use the freedom that you have to change it instead of just complaining.

I could be angry at Moose, but he loves the Cap'n so how could I be?