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[Tomi]

Yay people not learning from Biology courses!  There is lots of evidence of evolution in cell and many other things.  Not once have I heard the proof of evolution is evolution.

On God, I still haven't decided.

[Darkfox]

I took biology. Passed it. Couldn't say I learned anything new but it was fun to some extent. I got to cut open a heart.

[Red Giant]

Originally posted by Spike21
Some animal that couldn't possibly have evolved,
Whales are supposedly evolved from cows or something. Their blow hole is sepperate from there mouth were in cows and almost all other creatures the nose(or whatever) is connected to the mouth.

The Bombader Beatle is a little beatle that shoots hot liquid out from its abdomin. It has two chambers each with a diffrent cemical when combined they expode. How could it evolve with out exploding?

The Giraf has a little sponge in its head so when it leans down to get a drink it absorbs the blood going into the brain so it's head won't explode. It won't say "My head keeps exploding i need to evolve to make my head stop exploding."

The first is quite simple to expound. A nostril or blowhole, when used on a seadwelling mammal, would be more efficient the higher up it were, because one could reach the surface quicker. Therefore, the relocation from front of head to top would be beneficial among whales.

The bombadier beetle one is a little harder to explain, but there is a talkorigins page on it if you feel like taking a look:

And on girraffes, well, you have to understand that evolution is gradual. A girraffe with a slightly long neck wont have its head exploding, but it may have some minor blood problems every now and then. This would not affect it's survival MAJORLY, but it would be enough to make it beneficial to have a small sponge, nothing big, but enough to get by. Through more small steps, the sponge would get bigger and bigger and the neck longer and longer.

first of all how do you know the earth is millions upon millions of years old

Radiometric dating

Edit: Evolution... AH YES. A bunch of african apes bleached themselves and came together to form what is now England.

Not quite. Dark skin pigment is beneficial to have in enviroments with more sun, because it protects from UV light and skin cancer, subsequently. As our ancestors migrated to countries with less sun, their lighter-skinned children were found to be less hindered because of the lack of significant UV light. In fact, they were at an advantage, because they were able to take in more vitamin(I forget the letter, but it's some vitamin that comes from sunlight) without dying off.
The continent with the highest rate of skin cancer today is Australia. This is because australia has a high population of white people with a high exposure of sun.

Words

Bunches of words.

More words.

Man this blows.

Well what can you expect from a forum, really?

[Darkfox]

Well what can you expect from a forum, really?

Less boring n00bs who have nothing better to do than argue a lot about religion. A kind of topic where people without a life bash each other with words and words. Then yap on and on and never get anywhere and then a bunch of people pop up and are like "WTF WHAT U TALKIN BOUT!?" and then they are like "LOLRELIGION" and the others are like "LOLEVOLUTION" and then there are more words but they are unintelligable except having the construct of a meaningful sentence. Then there are more words and then everybody gets bored... and... some guy is like "lol i liek cheese" and then it goes on from there.

The world is such a goofy place. Rejoice!

[Razor]

Originally posted by Darkfox
Words

Bunches of words.

More words.

Man this blows.

Edit: Evolution... AH YES. A bunch of african apes bleached themselves and came together to form what is now England.

Shouldn't you be saying that in every single thread?

And about the edit, it's still arguable whether or not humans evolved from apes, or if they evolved from the third party that evolved into both. I haven't heard much on that theory lately though.
Besides, Germany found England originally. Lern2history.


You know, if you don't want to look at this thread, don't.
There are people who actually like the topic, the world doesn't share your opinion on the matter.

[Darkfox]

Originally posted by Razor

Originally posted by Darkfox
Words

Bunches of words.

More words.

Man this blows.

Edit: Evolution... AH YES. A bunch of african apes bleached themselves and came together to form what is now England.

Somthing about Toastios and history.[/B]

Man I hate those. And... what is history? A miserable pile of secrets!

It isn't that I hate the topic but it is one of those topics it is impossible to take seriously.

[Razor]

It is one of those topics that you seem to find impossible to take seriously.

Back on topic, please.

[Darkfox]

The topic as it seems to be one of those to bash religion and debate how man came to be. Am I correct?

[Red Giant]

Originally posted by Darkfox
Less boring n00bs who have nothing better to do than argue a lot about religion. A kind of topic where people without a life bash each other with words and words. Then yap on and on and never get anywhere and then a bunch of people pop up and are like "WTF WHAT U TALKIN BOUT!?" and then they are like "LOLRELIGION" and the others are like "LOLEVOLUTION" and then there are more words but they are unintelligable except having the construct of a meaningful sentence. Then there are more words and then everybody gets bored... and... some guy is like "lol i liek cheese" and then it goes on from there.

The world is such a goofy place. Rejoice!

Well I'm sorry you see it that way, but I don't think religion should be a taboo subject. Besides, anyone who dislikes the subject matter or thinks that it's boring is free to not read it.

And about the edit, it's still arguable whether or not humans evolved from apes, or if they evolved from the third party that evolved into both. I haven't heard much on that theory lately though.

Evolution is exceedingly difficult to track, mostly. Vast quantities of creatures will never be discovered due to the low chance of fossilization. That thought makes me kinda sad, you know?

EDIT:

Originally posted by Darkfox
The topic as it seems to be one of those to bash religion and debate how man came to be. Am I correct?

Oh please. There has been much more bashing of evolution; apparantely "man pulled it out of his ***". Not to mention you saying that everyone involved "has no life".
So far I think everyone has been more civil than they could be, perhaps with the exception of you.

[Darkfox]

Well I just saw some people taking it a bit personal tis all. It's just I seen these kind of topics other places go pretty badly (G4 forums) and ever since then I've been a bit shakey about it. I don't fear discussing beliefs, I just fear the whole super-Christian/super-aethiest thing.

Sorry if I came off like a nutcase.

But if you want my personal and honest belief on evolution I do believe it in some forms such as physical adaptation to an environmental change or at a small cellular level. Not sure if that can exactly be called evolution but anything more radical has never actually been observed. Other than mutations which is more like cancers and aftereffects of pollution. Like in amphibians.

Edit: Also I noticed sombody mentioned cloning. I want to get something straight there. When you "clone" sombody you basically take the genetic traits of that person and put them into a developing human. The result is a different person but may look like the one being cloned. And even then there will be differentiation because human development is not balanced and cannot realisticly be balanced by man alone. Because it is human to error. And an errored human to make a perfect human seems a funny concept. Well... ok... not really "make" is a correct term as it suggests that they made from nothing the embryo.

Basically what makes a person up doesn't make the person. If I cloned you what are the possibilities that it would develop to be like you?

[ZeroKirbyX]

I believe in the idea of creationism in terms of a creature created by God, but I also believe in evolution. I personally prefer to take the story of Eden as a metaphor, just as I take the 7 days. I love how many Catholics will claim that the seven days is a metaphor, but the Eden is not. Adam and Eve are merely that which was created first.

If I can pull out the clock maker relation again: God is the clock maker, he created all of it, but left it up to us to run on our own. However, when something gets REALLY messed up and requires fixin, he intervenes to fix it, the lets it go solo again; i.e. Jesus.

[Darkfox]

I like that analogy actually. But unlike a clock we have no defined way to run or predetermined path as we make our own paths.

Which brings me to what I find funny is people who "leave it in the hands of fate" or some "universal balance" but if they do nothing, nothing happens then say it was "fate" that nothing happened. Or if a car explodes it was "fate" even though they could have stopped the guy who threw the bomb since he was standing right there.

[Red Giant]

Originally posted by Darkfox
Well I just saw some people taking it a bit personal tis all. It's just I seen these kind of topics other places go pretty badly (G4 forums) and ever since then I've been a bit shakey about it. I don't fear discussing beliefs, I just fear the whole super-Christian/super-aethiest thing.

Sorry if I came off like a nutcase.

I get where you're coming from totally.

On the cloning thing, well, it's difficult to say. It's very VERY arguable how much of one's personality is defined by genetics and how much by enviroment.

[Dominicy]

Originally posted by Spike21
first of all how do you know the earth is millions upon millions of years old

you can prove the world isn't millions upon millions of years old because the sun would have vaporized the water of earth in the beginning during creation, this proven by the fact that the sun shrinks two feet every hour. (or was it day?)

[ZeroKirbyX]

Dominicy you make me laugh.