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Offline fruckert

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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2009, 10:44:30 PM »
Yes...but if you bring a sword to a gunfight, you're going to lose your head and possibly some other body parts
Depending on the size of the gun
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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2009, 11:50:35 PM »
Quote from: Nandez on May 29, 2009, 10:11:11 PM
Hey swords are more conveniet. This reminds me of a conversaiton me and my brother had about Zombies and weapon of choice if there were Zombies everywhere he chose a Katana unlike a gun Katana's never run out of ammo and they are fast sharp very good to decapitate.

The tanto is much better then either of those. Just commit seppuku and they're gone.
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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2009, 12:38:53 AM »
Quote from: fruckert on May 29, 2009, 10:44:30 PM
Yes...but if you bring a sword to a gunfight, you're going to lose your head and possibly some other body parts
Depending on the size of the gun

Lol thay wasn't the point.


Quote from: lucas_irineu on May 30, 2009, 12:06:39 AM
I didnt read the whole thing but I am against killing indians. I mean, you US people prolly know more about it than I do but I am pretty sure that the whole thing about evil indians and stuff is just an excuse to kill them and stealing their lands. From what I heard, that buffalo bill guy, all he did was mass murder all the buffalos so the indians didnt have anything to eat. What I heard at least.

You U.S. people?

I agree about classifying the Indians as evil isn't right but since he making a western rpg and you play a "cowboy" the Indians would be the villians.
Some Indians tribes were extremely violent and even commit cannibalism.
Though I think Gun did it well Gun showed some Indians in a bad and good light, in fact your character  is half Native American and half cacusian but if you want to get technical should be we be saying Native American instead of Indian?

Also dude its a game we have games attacking religion this isn't the first western game or the first game to show Cowboys against Indians.



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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2009, 12:54:14 AM »
Its not really saying all Indians and bad and all Cowboys are good. Its just depicting what a Western game did and that there was war between Cowboys and Indians.
I don't know him but he may not even be a U.S. Citizen.
Some of the tribes were just extremely violent even if people weren't trying to kill them and some were peaceful.

You're kind of taking it like he is saying every Native America/Indian in the game is evil and is going to try to kill you while I don't know if he is going to do that or not for all we know it could be balanced.


Vaarwel.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2009, 12:57:20 AM by Nandez »
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Offline Dragoon de Sol

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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2009, 04:54:54 AM »
I'm guessing you didn't like Resident Evil 4 or 5 because of the racist themes, right lucas_irineu? (And whoever says RE4 isn't racist, well, I have a few spanish people you should be talking to and see how they like their race being the main antagonist for the game)

It's a game, and you are really taking it far too seriously.

Yes, the blight about the native americans having their land taken from them is sorrowful, not all native americans are evil, they were actually the ones who helped us get settled, and etc.

HOWEVER, this is a video game. Coreystranick is doing research of the time period he is making the game in, and I am SURE he will find, that while native americans often were peaceful and discriminated against, a good deal of them had no problem attacked a band of wagons and lopping off the tops of our ****ing heads.

I'm sure he's going to include native american protagonists to an extent, but seriously, get over it. If you're not going to be one of the people to play his game because of the agony of the native americans being enemies, then he can add me to the list of people who will play it because he is actually going to accurately depict the native american race in this game, and I think it'd be a nice change of pace from what we see in RPGs today.

I mean, seriously, what else other than wild animals and bandits can he include in the damn thing? Robotic bipeds from the planet Goosen? Get over it.
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Offline Valiere

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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2009, 06:41:50 AM »
I didn't complain about the characters' antagonism and dislike for the Indians, because I saw it as a character flaw that would eventually fade as they come to see them as human.

I dunno, that's just what I got from it.
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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2009, 11:48:15 AM »
Wow, alot of people commented while my computer was off. Alright yes I am showing Indians (at this point in time they weren't Native Americans)as good and evil. Also Val was right about the character. But ultimately the choice is yours, you will be able to choose how you act when you go to the Indian village

Oh and I am american
« Last Edit: May 30, 2009, 11:54:36 AM by coreystranick »
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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2009, 12:25:16 PM »
Quote from: coreystranick on May 30, 2009, 11:48:15 AM
Wow, alot of people commented while my computer was off. Alright yes I am showing Indians (at this point in time they weren't Native Americans)as good and evil. Also Val was right about the character. But ultimately the choice is yours, you will be able to choose how you act when you go to the Indian village

Oh and I am american

I was right :)

@Dragoon de Sol i'm surprised you didn't use RE5 as a example because it caused a big uproar.

The one thing I hate is people claiming a game is racist just because its set in a diffrent time or place of the World so they use the people in that part of the World. Caucasian people are killed all the time in games but as soon as its a diffrent race its like **** hits the fan.
Wheres the eqaulity in that? It is just ridiculous. This is last post i'l make in this topic about this subject though because I don't want your topic to get away from your game.




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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2009, 05:03:35 PM »
It kinda is talking about my game haha. But yeah this topic is pretty much over now I understand the concerns of the few who have them and everyone else's point of view. The only person who I really hope not to offend is lonewolf as he is actually native american
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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2009, 07:41:24 PM »




Game looks good, brah.
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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2009, 08:14:21 PM »
Quote from: lucas_irineu on May 30, 2009, 07:55:39 PM
Great one, Red.

Anyway. RE is not racist. It about a village with crazy cult people. It just happens to be on Spain.

And this is the internet. Stop taking stuff so damn serious.
I was just telling corey that he shouldnt be killing too many indians. He listened to me. And thats it, I dont know why the hell Nandez is pissed off.

I'm not pissed at anything i've been calm this whole time.
I'm a passive person.
I dislike you personally but I wasn't taking anything personnel from this or getting mad.
When exactly did I get pissed off? I never did Boerenlul.

Tabee.
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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2009, 08:30:41 PM »
Re4&5 was about infected people. Viruses.
It's not about the nationality of the people. It's like that old alien movie where everyone in town except the protagonist had these red X's in their necks, like a mark for the people under the influence of the aliens.
But RE4&5 are about parasites instead of aliens. And I gotta say, It was a nice breeze when you finally had the chance to hear some other language than English and Japanese in games. So sick of hearing thinfs like "He's over there" "I'll get you!" "Gajin!!!!!" or ****.

Anyway.
On the topic of the game.
Just add some friendly native people and no one will be all "omg racist! my grandfather was a shaman!"
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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2009, 09:38:44 PM »
native American Indians extremely violent ?
way back they was extremely violent  it was over land
if you what to get in to it but that's the passed history
most of my tribe got there land back when the land laws was look at
we only used guns as it was be killed or kill to save your tribe
most tribes was violent as they got drunk on whiskey or moonshine
but that was only when some of the white Americans pilgrims who arrived
on tribes land and made there homes on tribes hunting grounds
the white Americans had gun's to kill native American Indians
so we asked the fur trappers to trade guns and not whiskey or some food the white Americans used most tribes use the gun;s to go hunting as you can kill a beer or bear faster then a bow but the funny thing is most native American Indians had wife or husband that was a white Americans pilgrim like me and my white wife and i am native American Indian and white blood mixed as my mum was white my dad native American all over the world there is mixed wife's and husband's

its a good thing the worlds like this so i say what's the big thing if there is violent native American Indian's in the game you have not seen my native lands yet you will see at lot of scalping and see what we did with the skin when we did all the scalping so in a way you can call my greater granddads violent for doing this back in his time

any how getting back to the game
got the new natives pmed to you coreystranick

thanks to thewerewolf for his help there
« Last Edit: May 30, 2009, 11:44:37 PM by lonewolf »
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Offline Dragoon de Sol

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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2009, 09:59:18 PM »
My great grandfather was full cherokee, and yet I don't really find this all that offensive.
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Re: Raging Wilds
« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2009, 12:48:39 AM »
At Prpl alot of black people even some of my friends got pissed at RE5 and there were alot of things online blogs tlaking about a "Police" officer shooting black people in RE5 as being extremely racist.
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