Charas, what has happened...?

[HackersTotalMassLaser]

I wish you would take your crap elsewhere. Honestly though. If charas sucks so much, then leave man. OH WAIT...thats because the rest of the internet thinks you are a dick too.


Seriously man... nobody cares...were trying to have a conversation. Do try to contribute with something aside from "god, you guys suck at having a conversation"




ANYWAYS... yeah about the Banners... I dont know how to operate those

No, just this forum thinks so, I am pretty fun loving in other places. Also I did contribute, you are just too busy being butthurt.


If at all, I am trying to motivate you guys. But instead of saying "screw his opinion, let's do this!" you are just acting up.

[zuhane]

On a lighter note, I've started on my first game dungeon. It's pretty guuurrddd!

[Ben]

That makes perfect sense. Your discouragments, condescensions and generally crappy attitude is actually the most helpful thing in this thread.

Piss off.

[HackersTotalMassLaser]

I didn't say THAT was my contribution. Come on.

Harvey, if you do, Ill make you an award. A special one. In the shape of a thank you card.

Oh God.

[Shady Ultima]

This is probably going to be one of my longest posts... ever on this site.

Honestly, I'd love to see something happen. This site has not changed at all in the 8 years I've been here, and it was relatively new when I joined.

We need to get something to keep people around, aside from just the community. This site used to focus on rpg making, and while most people here don't make them any more, when new people come asking for help, or trying to show their project, they usually don't get anything.

There was a time when requests would be filled. I remember there was a team that was very good. Kijuki was a part of it, which was great for requests, although it's been a long time, so I forget it's name. All the other teams have died, and no one helps out new people any more.

When I came here, I found the generators. Then I joined the forums and had a few requests filled, and I filled a few requests myself. The All of All and Forum Gaming were still there, and I remember racking up my post count early on in one forum game with Mid (who was new herself at the time) then, when forum gaming became 'seperate' posts, I stopped going in there, and now I really have no interest in it.

Look through the games forums. With the exception of a handfull of current members' projects (Like Zuhane's, Felix's and a few others) most projects never even get a comment or two. And how many people even give people's demos a chance anymore? This is all part of the community too. So while I would love to see this board get a facelift, and have galleries and allow conversation about XP and VX programs, it won't help unless the community actually puts a bit of effort into using these new features.

We also should borrow some new board ideas from other indie game making communities and have areas where people can discuss game making, and stuff like that. I'm sure I'm not the only one who visits RMN and RRR and other sites, and those sites do indie game making better than us.

We need to community to support this more than just 'hey! that's a good idea'. If it can all be implemented (and I'm sure it can, since it's in other sites) we need to community to actually work WITH the additions, so that new people feel like there is a reason to stay.

Also, KM, cut it out. I've never had a problem with you, but you're one of the senior members here, and you can help out here.

[HackersTotalMassLaser]

When the teams were segregated a lot of people stopped going there. I believe that subconsciously it was like "these aren't that cool, let separate them from the rest of forum." Then again i don't remember if I ever was part of that decision. A lot of the team specified activity was the reason new people were being brought here. But, as the teams grew and got tired so did the activity.

Repetition builds up boredom.

[Cosmos]

ANYWAYS... yeah about the Banners... I dont know how to operate those

Well I was asking a friend about it and he directed me to where and how but...after I told him it was a rotation banner he didn't know where I could locate it and I saw a lot of crap that gave me a headache. So after spending two hours mocking Harvey, Charas and myself we called it a night.

..And who exactly set up the previous banners? Why can't they appear now and say "HEY I'LL GIVE YOU SOME ADVICE?!" or something? <<...

[Dragonium]

That's not even the problem we have. The problem we have is that a rock could do the job, if it had access to the template code.

All the big changes planned are great and will eventually happen, but let's get the small niggling sidequest out of the way first, aye?

[SaiKar]

I can't be bothered really. Every impression I've gotten outside of the past week or so is that the current members don't give a frick about the future of the site at all and just want to hang around here doin' nothing. So I'm not going to wading through code to make people like that happy. If Mid or other crazies want to try, I will render them any support I can, but that's about it.

[Archem]

So I see that someone did something, because I am greeted with this lovely image at the top of the page:



How many times am I going to leave my mark on this place?

[Dragonium]

I can't be bothered really. Every impression I've gotten outside of the past week or so is that the current members don't give a frick about the future of the site at all and just want to hang around here doin' nothing. So I'm not going to wading through code to make people like that happy. If Mid or other crazies want to try, I will render them any support I can, but that's about it.

To be honest, I think it's a bit hypocritical to accuse people of having a lazy and defeatist attitude, then when you, one of the few people able to make changes to the site, are called upon to help, you say you can't be bothered and Charas is going nowhere.

[Cosmos]

Uh that's just him being honest. He's not a coder and never was. I doubt he has any actual interest in it too but he's get for suggestions, prodding with a stick and an occasional mocking.

Edit: And a certain retired person was prodded and did things. So yay!

[SaiKar]

To be honest, I think it's a bit hypocritical to accuse people of having a lazy and defeatist attitude, then when you, one of the few people able to make changes to the site, are called upon to help, you say you can't be bothered and Charas is going nowhere.

See, you say this, but new banners. So suck on that.

[Cosmos]

...Real mature Harvey. <<

(hi-fives)

[SaiKar]