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Offline forgetaboutit

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Goddamn, people, what happened?
« on: February 20, 2012, 09:52:00 PM »
So I was looking through my early posts and my first two games. And I was a complete and utter noob who had no idea what he was doing. I couldn't spell, I couldn't sprite, I couldn't write stories, I couldn't code, I was making threads without having anything to show, and I was asking people for help and giving up on ideas five minutes later.

So, what happened? How were the replies? People telling me to suck a dick, someone telling me to get a life, people saying that my ideas would never work and that I should give up?

No.

Everyone wanted to help. Everyone was offering to lend a hand. I had people suggesting better stories, there were people who made me facesets, those who helped me find system graphics and chipsets. And not just me, there were all those noobs back then, some of them stayed, some didn't, but we all sucked, and we all had help when we asked for it.

And you know? I was a stupid 12 year old with too much free time and too many stupid ideas, and it's only natural that I'd change with time. But there were people, now in their 20s, who were around my age, and now I look at those people, and the people who are my age now, myself included, and that willingness to help, that hope in the projects of the beginners, all that... It's nowhere to be found. When did this happen to us, when did we stop caring about each other's ideas and dreams?

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Offline SaiKar

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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2012, 10:01:59 PM »
Eh, go suck a dick.

... someone had to do it.
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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2012, 10:36:11 PM »
Its because I was banned.
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Offline fruckert

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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2012, 10:39:01 PM »
Why did that happen again?
I honestly can't remember.
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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2012, 10:45:01 PM »
Nor do I. Something about me poking fun at people who had power on this forum :P
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Offline Moosetroop11

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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 11:54:06 PM »
http://www.charas-project.net/forum/index.php?topic=28101.0

We're not as bad as you think.
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Offline Cerebus

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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2012, 11:54:55 PM »
Prpl_Mage doesn't count!
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Offline Moosetroop11

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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2012, 11:55:22 PM »
http://www.charas-project.net/forum/index.php?topic=28105.0

What about that one then?
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Offline Cerebus

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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2012, 12:48:03 AM »
Guess that getting older and dealing with life's stress made us less likely to be helpful now that we have to deal with more problems. Or something.
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Offline Cosmos

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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2012, 02:38:20 AM »
Did you ever consider that maybe Charas has become a kind of...clicke? Which has resulted in a bit of a Vet/Elite state of mind? I mean, it's easier to be a jerkface then a decent human being, nowadays
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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2012, 02:59:06 AM »
If I hadn't completely forgotten everything about RPGM, I might actually help. Well, that explains that.
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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2012, 03:35:24 AM »
Yeah, true that. Last time I touched RPG Maker I was still a minor.
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Offline drenrin2120

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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2012, 05:45:15 AM »
Eh...................

Had this conversation with some old friends I reunited with. We all had been in bands in highschool. Some of us had been in multiple bands. We talked about how we'd spend every day in a basement jamming. Even though we sucked, we kept playing. And we'd play shows in basements, at parties and sometimes we'd get lucky and play some pretty sweet venues. We eventually got better and made music we're all pretty happy about even now. We would even pool our money to get a few hours in a recording studio.

We also all agreed that same drive just isn't there anymore. Work, college, general life things. They get in the way. How do you find time (or a practice space) to jam every day when you work 40 hours a week and are trying to get your degree? Where's the money to buy new strings, new drum heads, fix amps, fix guitars, sell tickets, record, when you've got bills and loans to pay off?

I don't know man. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying, life is ****ing us all up pretty hard and it's not as easy to find that inspiration. Not only is the 'newness' of it gone, but we've all got more responsibilities. And the same applies to game making.

Oh, and nobody likes rm2k3, even though vx graphics suck ***.
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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2012, 06:55:11 AM »
Quote from: Cerebus on February 20, 2012, 11:54:55 PM
Prpl_Mage doesn't count!

Aw.

Anyway, I believe that one of the factors bringing you to this conclusion is that we have less noobs these days. And since the amount of noobs are lower( a lot lower) than it was back when you were 12 each bad reply affects a greater percentage of our average nice/jerk scale.

There are people who have good requests and those usually gets answered, then we have those that request a specific thing usually found at the spriters resource, and the people who just needed a google search - and lastly the people who make such weird request that the troll alarm is going high-wired.

But just because less kiddos are working with the outdated maker there are also less people who can be subjects to the help we offer. Sure the whole spriting department is a bit lacking these days but that's mainly because it takes more time than explaining how to make some sort of feature work.

Oh and also, we've become a lot more cynical over the years. Some years ago we saw every idea as a potential game. Now there is nothing about a thread that makes us think that the game will actually be completed. Sad but true. I blame Lucas for that though, kid started a lot of games and he can suck a dick.
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Re: Goddamn, people, what happened?
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2012, 08:26:38 AM »
Nice point at the end there.
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