Grinding vs Taking Advantage of the System

[Prpl_Mage]

haha no...  I'm an American.

The only bad thing I can say about living in Sweden is that most online gamer people seem to be from countries outside Europe.
Playing monster hunter tri online nets you tons of french, italian and german players. Problem is that their preset messages and such are in their own languages. Also item names, and skill names. Communicating gets kinda annoying. And no offense against every other country but I hate the fact that people can't learn english.

[Archem]

I hate not learning English. It's, like, my favorite language!

[zuhane]

Yeah, English was the first language I learned and the last. That's quite a lot of language learning right there boyo!!!!!

[Archem]

So is your mother. *snap*

[daoman89]

I learned Spanish, then dubbed it unimportant and forgot about it hahaha

[Cerebus]

I learned English with video games and with school, since it's mandatory here.
First, school helped me understand video games. Then, video games helped me get better in English class.
So games helped me more than class. Yeah.

And yeah, I don't like being forced to grind.

[Archem]

Yeah, grinding English can be a pain.

[Prpl_Mage]

Back when I was like 7 or 8 I started learning english because of pokemon. It may sound silly. But kids barely knew that blizzard was an ice based attack until I told them. When playing pokemon most people ran all over the place to find out where to go next in the game. A lot of people never found Erika's gym ect.
For people not knowing english it was like trial and error to find the right person to talk to because nothing on that screen made sense.
And then I played games like final fantasy, zelda and diablo as well. Also heroes of might and magic. Descriptions on skills and such weren't wall of texts back in those days luckily.

Loot farming is becoming a pretty common element in games these days. Enemies have a chance to drop something nice that some ugly guy wants 4 of. A lot of people are complaining about these kind of things like "OMg random chance drops sucxxor". Sure it can drain some time if you're unlucky but at least you're killing those monsters for a reason. Nothing worse than putting enemies in a place, in a game. And then there's no reason to even poke at them.
Speaking of monsters. Beastairies in games. Love these if they actually supply you with some sort of information. Preferably the monster level, exp gained, gold dropped and items dropped. Also weaknesses are pretty nifty to read up on when it isn't a game than tells you that "it's super effective" when you use the right stuff in combat.

[daoman89]

You didn't have Swedish Pokemon?  But yeah, for monster hunter you usually always have a reason to fight a monster.  Whether it being materials, a grudge, or just to get that title for killing X amount of times.  And as you keep fighting it, you learn about its weaknesses and then you mess with it and beat its ***.  I used to have trouble killing Barroth, but now HE has trouble hitting me.  Ppl are like why isn't Dave healing!?!?.  It's because I went super saiyan kids and Barroth can't beat me.  I think Purple Mage will agree with me here...  They should've made Rathalos more bad *** by having him fly around the sky shooting a barrage of fire balls.  Anyways people like getting awards for accomplishments, sure pride is nice but award addition is better

[Prpl_Mage]

Swedish pokemon? We only get EA games with swedish subtitles and menu. And that's just these last years. Not worth translating a a game into a language that only 9 million people speak after all.

[Archem]

Actually, 9 million with only X% of which play games, and a smaller percent interested in each specific game, it does sound like a reasonable business assumption that it's not worth the extra time and money to translate an entire game, especially those wordy RPGs.

[Prpl_Mage]

Actually, 9 million with only X% of which play games, and a smaller percent interested in each specific game, it does sound like a reasonable business assumption that it's not worth the extra time and money to translate an entire game, especially those wordy RPGs.

My point exactly. Games are usually just translated into German, French and Spanish. Also sometimes Dutch and Italian. Donno if that's because it's worth it or that those people speak bad english.

[Archem]

I'm sure there's a bigger reason at hand. I hear that illegal software is pretty overwhelming in Portuguese-speaking countries. This could be related. Maybe not a direct relationship, like "They keep pirating, let's spite them!", but probably something along the lines of very high import tax rates, exchange rates resulting in low income, government policies regarding the software in question, etc.

I should brush up on this stuff so I can offer a better explanation. Simply "Because we don't feel like it" seems like a weak excuse.

[Cerebus]

My point exactly. Games are usually just translated into German, French and Spanish. Also sometimes Dutch and Italian. Donno if that's because it's worth it or that those people speak bad english.

Or English. How would it suck if Japanese games weren't?

[daoman89]

Lol this got so off topic.  I've always wondered though... Do other languages have slang?  Cause English is full of slang and I wear black people (not to sound racist or stereotypical) made their own English sub-language.  I'll read things like "Dat bull be winging the jaunt up the curb so sick of it some bull ****."  And I'm like uhhh... wtf!?  Or maybe they're just poorly educated?  America's not as perfect as you may thing ladies and gentlemen!  Equality my ***!!