Xbox One

[oooog]

What country are you from?  And you are so right about us Americans lol

I am an American, believe it or not.  But I'm also an American who isn't really into our football.  Not really in to any sport really, save tennis.

I think it is fair to say that I am a Nintendo fanboy with a fondness for Sony as well.  Let's examine this.

I was a day one adopter of Wii-U, because I have faith in their products.  I purchased the 3DS at launch, and although I was slighted by the initial false promises (or more accurately the vague definition of launch window), my 3DS now has 17 titles that are all worth it, with off the top of my head 5 more in the very near future.  The Wii-U was also a day one purchase, but this was mainly due to the fact that I remember how things went with the Wii initially and how difficult it was for people in my area to get one at a reasonable price.  As it stands, I only have 4 games for it, but I am eagerly awaking TW101, Pikmin 3, and Wind Waker HD.  Not to mention I have high hopes a new Smash Bros. is on the horizon.  And let's not forget that obscure Fire Emblem x SMT that came out of left field a few months back.

Regarding Sony, I'm not as loyal.  I purchased both a PSP and a PS3 several years down the line after the slim models came out, and I now have a fairly respectable collection for both systems.  However, purchasing them at launch would have been a mistake, and I feel the same with the PS4.  Although I am interested in the PS4 more-so than the Xbox One, I am positive it will be packaged with a very hefty pricetag, and almost nothing worthwhile to play for several months, if not years.  At the moment, the only thing that I know of that is exclusive for the PS4 that interests me is the Deep Down demo shown by Capcom.  If this proves to be a Dragon's Dogma successor, you can certainly count on me to be in.  I loved this game so much I would consider purchasing the system at launch if DD released fairly close to it.  The only other title that comes to mind that would entice me to purchase the system would be a Naughty Dog Crash Bandicoot.  Since neither one of these criteria are likely to be met, I think I will stick with the Wii-U for the time being.

Now, the system of the hour, the Xbox One.  Let's examine my history of the Xbox.  I liked Fable, and sort of Halo.  Let's look at the 360.  They butchered the Fable series.  Twice.  And we are done.  The problem lies with the fact that every good game that has enticed me that has come out on an Xbox, has also likely come out on a Playstation or PC.  Comparing XBL and PSN, PSN is simply vastly superior for me.  One reason.  It is free!  You can purchase PSN +, sure, but the basic package is free and offers everything XBL does.  I've seen no difference between connections and have had absolutely not lag differences on either one, so why should I pay for a service when another system offers the exact same thing, with pretty much the same games, for free?

I will not deny that perhaps I am looking for reasons to hate the new system.  But based on what has been presented, I see no redeeming quality for it as it stands.  Maybe someday in the future something will come along and sway me, but as it stands, it would seem Microsoft is actively pushing me away from their system.  And I'm okay with that.  I can keep my $600 for something else after all, and take the extra time to put down one remote for my TV to pick up the other one for my cable box.

[daoman89]

I am also looking forward to LoZ:WW.  Whether or not they're going to add dungeons and content that was taken out before due to time constraints, I'm still gonna get it since it is my favorite zelda.  Nintendo would get mad respect points from me if they listen to the fans' request for the additional things.  I like to think of the Wii U as a super DS due to the extra screen, except I have a lot more freedom between the two screens lol. 

And I don't wanna pay for ****ing online play.  Not a fan of paying extra to fully enjoy your game.  MH3U has free online play and it is great.  It rarely lags and is a lot of fun and you have the built in microphone and keyboard.  Mariokart is free online, SSBB (tho not great) has free online, The Last Story free, Metroid Prime Hunters free, pokemon free, etc etc etc etc.

I'm not an xbox hater, but I can confidently say it is the worst console company.

[Apex]

Xbox take one look at it turn 360 degrees and walk away.

Also, PC gaming master race.

[DragonBlaze]

So it sounds like people don't like the Xbox because of the name and because it also has a focus of being an overall entertainment system on top of a gaming system, but has xbox's new platform hindered games or game makers at all? From what I've seen it hasn't... Why all the hate before the release or before all of the games are announced? The point of a gaming platform is the games, so it's hard to judge a system shortly after it's announced and we have no idea what games ate to come. So what if it has features you don't want to use? Then don't use them.

I intend to see what the Xbox one has to offer after it's released to judge it. None of us know exactly what the next gen systems have to offer until they are actually offered. That being said, the new Xbox may really suck, but we cant make that judgement with such limited information.

[Meiscool]

So what if it has features you don't want to use? Then don't use them.

That's just it, you HAVE to use the features.

The system won't work without an internet connection (even for single-player games). XBL is still subscription based though.
Used games/borrowing/renting are null and void without a fat pocket.
Kinetic MUST be connected and on in order for the system to function. The sensor must also be on and all times, though kinetic functions themselves can be turned off.
The whole "complete entertainment package" that they highlight so much involves you buying a separate cable box specifically made to hook up to the xbox (which I don't quite understand, seeing as you probably already have cable internet to get the thing to work in the first place). <- Iffy source information
Indie games now have to have more rights sold to Microsoft (vs what they are on present XBLA) and the process will be more complex.
Not backwards compatible with ANYTHING (games, headsets, etc).

Really, this system looks like a giant '**** you' to consumers.

Really, the biggest issue I have is with the kinetic having to be on at all times. I mean... it just makes no sense unless they wanted to spy on us or use the sensor to make sure too many people don't watch one movie at once or something. They could use the voice activation argument, but there is no reason to make the sensor required to be on at all times just for that.

[Dr. Ace]

So it sounds like people don't like the Xbox because of the name and because it also has a focus of being an overall entertainment system on top of a gaming system, but has xbox's new platform hindered games or game makers at all? From what I've seen it hasn't... Why all the hate before the release or before all of the games are announced? The point of a gaming platform is the games, so it's hard to judge a system shortly after it's announced and we have no idea what games ate to come. So what if it has features you don't want to use? Then don't use them.

I intend to see what the Xbox one has to offer after it's released to judge it. None of us know exactly what the next gen systems have to offer until they are actually offered. That being said, the new Xbox may really suck, but we cant make that judgement with such limited information.

1) I hate the name
2) I hate the fact that they're focussing all their console progress on watching television shows easier, while most people that already want that already have a device for that
3) I hate that even if that stuff might proof any use for me, that it'll most likely be locked for US only
4) I hate the fact they're trying to replace a remote control with voice commands while that'll only complicate things
5) I hate the forced Kinect
6) The always on Kinect, even when the console is off
7) The fact it can see in the dark
It can read my heartbeat
9) And that they'll use it for anything but good games (like Kinect 1.0)
10) The fact that the only games they announced were sports, sports, sports, sports and cawwadooty
11) The fact that they announced 15 exclusives with 8 new IPs but it'll robably be 12 Kinect games and 3 maybe worthwhile ones
12) That they try to be extra greedy and get money for used games.

I could go on and on and on, but it's more than just "we hate the name".

[oooog]

So it sounds like people don't like the Xbox because of the name and because it also has a focus of being an overall entertainment system on top of a gaming system, but has xbox's new platform hindered games or game makers at all? From what I've seen it hasn't... Why all the hate before the release or before all of the games are announced? The point of a gaming platform is the games, so it's hard to judge a system shortly after it's announced and we have no idea what games ate to come. So what if it has features you don't want to use? Then don't use them.

I intend to see what the Xbox one has to offer after it's released to judge it. None of us know exactly what the next gen systems have to offer until they are actually offered. That being said, the new Xbox may really suck, but we cant make that judgement with such limited information.

Take everything aside that they presented, trying to force their way to the center of your living room, making it the one extension for you TV that you'll need, and focus on what was shown as a gaming console.

As previously stated, they seem to be gearing towards bro gamers.  Sure, there may be other games in the works but they only opted to show were Call of Duty, Forza Motorsports, a plethora of EA sports, and some obscure title that we know nothing about aside that it looked to be some sort of Heavy Rain rip-off (That's just the vibe I got.)  Sure there are other games announced unofficially (Assassin's Creed IV, Watch Dogs, Destiny), but these games can be found on the other systems, much like the announced games could be.  When the Wii U and PS4 launched, they showed a wide variety of different games spanning across genres.  Microsoft instead opted to show only the games that interest their core audience, which is a valid business tactic sure, but it basically alienated everyone else.  It's like what many unflinchingly believe Nintendo has done with casual gamers, except the difference is that Microsoft actually did cater exclusively to one demographic.

On almost every other occasion, I have also opted to take the wait and see approach, because I am certain the end result will not be as bad as everyone assumes.  However, the uproar over this among the gaming community is most certainly justifiable, and it will take a hell of a lot of work on Microsoft's side to win back these supporters, which just doesn't seem likely.

[fruckert]

As an aside, sometimes I feel like the only person who thinks that the Kinect ISN'T for gaming.
The most impressive things that I've seen done with it are experiments in non-gaming related technology. The best example that comes to mind is the medical industry using it to teach surgeons. Or so I've heard.
Any time people do make a game out of it, it's wildly flailing around in a living room that's undoubtedly too small. And, occasionally, making you violently nauseous.

So yeah, I'm not excited about the xbone at all.
There's WAY too many problems with it technically (DRM mostly), and there wasn't a single thing that appealed to me.

Also also, they apparently ****ing hate indie games, which is a huge turnoff for me.

Sony's kind of stealing my heart, though.
Even if the concept of a dedicated social networking button on the controller is unceasingly stupid.

[daoman89]

I was never gonna get an xbox ever so i don't really care about its failure or success.  I'm also sick of these console wars, like seriously, who gives a ****?  Just play the games you like and shut the hell up.  You don't need to hate on other games by coming at people who enjoy them etc etc.  Common statements and opinions are... "Xbox is better" and it's like ok, good for it.  Halo is ok and I'm sure bioshock and gear wars are really good too, but so what.  Most of their good games is on Ps3 too aren't they?  Anyways, the console war crap is just ridiculous and I'm glad Nintendo doesn't give a **** about it. 

It's a shame that a lot of people get offended when someone says they don't like a game they like lol

[Prpl_Mage]

It's human pack nature, same psychology that is applied to cults and sports. You strengthen the sense of "us" by differentiating yourselves from "them". It's easier to prove how bad everything else is than convincing people how great your stuff is. Especially in times when your console/cult/team is in a bad place, shouting how great and glorious your stuff is when sales are bad or when the world didn't ended doesn't work as well as pointing out that there is still something worse out there.

Just sayin

[Dr. Ace]

Anyways, the console war crap is just ridiculous and I'm glad Nintendo doesn't give a **** about it. 

You do know how stupid you sound? Nintendo and Sega started this.

[fruckert]

Wasn't Sega the one who started the console war campaign idea?
I know Nintendo did it as well, but I'm pretty sure that Sega did what Nintendon't first.

[Dr. Ace]

Takes two to start a war.

[daoman89]

True, but i dont hear anything about those two goin at it today, just microsoft and sony.  The occasional vita and 3ds, mostly about where monster hunter should be due to graphics.  There's more but i don't look it up.  Just those random commenters and the huge arguments that result in grammar comebacks. Ever see those on youtube or other popular sites? Some are hilarious.

Some guy i was listening to yesterday while i was measuring things was talking about how it's hard for Nintendo to tell/explain why the gamepad can provide different ways to play.  He said people have to use it themselves, which is what he and his friends did before they bought it. It's good that their bringing e3 demos to some best buys for ppl to try.

Sucks for the guy that paid a million dollars for an end world bomb shelter type place. I don't think that would protect you from a giant asteroid, super volcano or in over 4.5 billion years, or the sun destroying the Earth.

Let's see if xbox can wow their fans at e3. Then someone can post some highlights cause i won't be watching it

[DragonBlaze]

That's just it, you HAVE to use the features.

The system won't work without an internet connection (even for single-player games). XBL is still subscription based though.
Used games/borrowing/renting are null and void without a fat pocket.

Your xbox will have to connect to the internet once every 24 hours to verify you own a legit copy of the game. Xbox has confirmed that you won't need a xbox live gold membership (the one that cost money), and that registering used games won't cost money either. Requiring the xbox connects to the internet once a day isn't ideal, but it honestly does not make a difference to me.

Kinetic MUST be connected and on in order for the system to function. The sensor must also be on and all times, though kinetic functions themselves can be turned off.

Really, the biggest issue I have is with the kinetic having to be on at all times. I mean... it just makes no sense unless they wanted to spy on us or use the sensor to make sure too many people don't watch one movie at once or something. They could use the voice activation argument, but there is no reason to make the sensor required to be on at all times just for that.

Wait! You need to plug in a device that comes with the xbox in order for it to run? The monstrosity!

I do agree that I don't like xbox's attitude towards indie games, but then again, I don't buy a system for indie games since most of the best indie games are on the pc anyway.

As previously stated, they seem to be gearing towards bro gamers.  Sure, there may be other games in the works but they only opted to show were Call of Duty, Forza Motorsports, a plethora of EA sports, and some obscure title that we know nothing about aside that it looked to be some sort of Heavy Rain rip-off (That's just the vibe I got.)  Sure there are other games announced unofficially (Assassin's Creed IV, Watch Dogs, Destiny), but these games can be found on the other systems, much like the announced games could be.  When the Wii U and PS4 launched, they showed a wide variety of different games spanning across genres.  Microsoft instead opted to show only the games that interest their core audience, which is a valid business tactic sure, but it basically alienated everyone else.  It's like what many unflinchingly believe Nintendo has done with casual gamers, except the difference is that Microsoft actually did cater exclusively to one demographic.

Xbox stated they would span their announcement into the E3 convention next week. The actual system doesn't come out until the end of the year, I'm sure a lot more games will be announced by then, maybe not for the launch, but the small amount of games that a system has on launch date does not define a system.


Just to be clear here, I'm not really excited over the Xbox One either, but I see a lot of hate over some pretty frivolous things :p