Getting Help on Charas

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

that's because it's true.

[Osmose]

Amen to the Karate Kid Sensei. He is truely a modern-day Jesus.

[Trevlac]

Too many people defending members who "can't" do something.  Always excuses for why someone can't do something and never a reason they can.  Right.  I used to be one who "can't" make a sprite worth a crap.  Or "can't" make a sig worth a flip.  'Know what I did?  Made one.  Because I believe in Vincent Van Gogh.

"If you hear a voice within you say "you cannot paint," then by all means paint, and that voice will be silenced."

So, I painted.  Just trying to point out that anyone saying someone can't do something obviously doesn't understand what can't means.  They simply do not have the motivation to be productive members of charas.  And there's nothing wrong with that, they exist to give the productive members practice and help shape them.

But I guess I have just violated my other philosophy:

"Do not argue with a fool, other people may not notice a difference."

If Mid were here, I know she would agree.

[RPG LORD]

Guess I need some rest... But Trevlac, I have to say I can agree with you. Graphically I've done some custom things, but what you said encourages me to keep trying. Thanks for mentioning it.

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

Originally posted by Trevlac
If Mid were here, I know she would agree.

LOL! Believe me; she would XD XD XD but on the philosophy.

[ZeroKirbyX]

Originally posted by Trevlac
"Do not argue with a fool, other people may not notice a difference."

I am stealing that philosiphy.

But out of curiosity, how did a thread based on complaining and b****ing get 8 pages?

[Drace]

Originally posted by Trevlac
Because I believe in Vincent Van Gogh.

Hey, isn't he dutch?

[SaiKar]

The key to making a game is self-sufficiency. That is, don't bite off more than you can chew. If you can't draw sprites, know where you can reliably get them (such as the generators) or use what's avaiable. You might not get exactly what you want, but compromises are necessary. I based my game, which has a cast of about 25 characters, mostly on RTP characters and commonly traded characters like the roco ones. Why? Because that's what resources where out there.

I never wanted to answer requests. I only came to Charas to share my battle characters (there were origionally three custom ones) on the complete resources page and call it good. But I started getting emails asking me to make battle characters out of specific character sets. At first I was totally floored and honored that someone would think my work was good enough to use in their games. Slowly it dawned on me that most people either didn't have the skill to sprite or were unwilling to learn. So I did a lot of requests, became immensitly well-known and everyone's friend, and become a moderator here and then an admin. A rise to power in less than a year. The American Dream, or something.

The burnout was inevitable. I take a lot of pride in my sprites. They are nothing less than works of art, and flaws bother me. It takes two days of about 3 hours of work a day for me to create an entire battle character set. Creating the first pose takes over an hour alone. Then copying it dozens of times, shifting it around, making it look right, testing in the game and fixing things that bother me... that's just for one set. I've done two dozen requests at least. Lots and lots of days of spriting for people.

What was my reward? I've never seen a game with my sprites be released. I've never seen one come even close. The closest game to completion I know with my graphics is my own, at 20+ hours. That's a pretty convincing case not to help people.

I don't have the time to sprite for others anymore. I barely have time to sprite for myself. I love Charas because it is so full of dreams, but I'm getting sort of jaded that the dreams always die and never are fulfilled. Maybe if someone from Charas were to finish a game the faith would be restored.

Oh, and for the record, 100% of my requests have been answered by talented artists within mere hours. Is it because I'm an admin that people help me? Because I'm friends with a lot of people? Because I'm making a game that I don't talk about much but everyone sort of knows is coming along well? Because people still think I'm a girl? Or because over the past year I have requested like 5 simple requests total? I don't know. All I can say is, they help me. If you're not getting your requests done, well, become more like me. :p

[SaiKar]

Oh, and admin-style cleanup:

To the people saying this thread should be closed: stop playing mini-mod. The moderator Kijuki and Carmen (and myself when my computer isn't fryed) are more than capable of closing a thread. We don't need anyone's help finding when the time is right. Remember, in the ideal Charas, NO threads would EVER be closed. As long as people can discuss maturely, the discussion can continue.

RPG LORD
Very funny Warxe. But remember that I will always be looking for the good of Charas, and will do anything to see it, no matter what it takes. I will let nothing stop me from finding the good in this community, not even the administrators.
THAT IS A WARNING.

The second you make statements like this, you've already lost your path. You're not looking out for the good of anyone if you're worried about people stopping you. And, mark my words, if you cross the line and break the rules, I will stand in your way as an adminstrator, and you won't be able to do anything about it. That's not a warning, just a fact.

[WarxePB]

This is all stupid. Why are we even arguing about this anymore? Let's just let this topic die and continue on with our lives.