What White has to say.

[White Dwarf]

I'm making this topic just to clear a few things up. I'm making it after reading this topic, you may want to read it first.
The topic.
((http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=12831&forumid=12&catid=6))
It's locked, so I was forced to make this topic.

If your a mod, please dont lock this topic. Because...

EDIT: let me explain why I locked this a bit better. All these threads just point fingers, causes people to be uncomfortable, And when a accusation such as serious as A mod being Lord raffles is not acceptable unless who ever does has valid proof.

True, but if you dont let us sort all this out, more and more topics are just going to be made, and its never going to stop. So let this topic stay so we can sort it out.

First. About Pop, pop2 and pop3

Pop: This one would be my falt. Josh C is a boy from my class, we often went to the library together, but one day I was round his house. I went on charas. He started to ask tons of questions about it and finaly made me (Yes. made. he actualy used blackmail.) to make a new account, I made someone called Toxic (And for that I'm very sorry) We logged on as Toxic and I told him his way round charas. Then I desided to go to the library, I logged off Toxic and told Josh to wait for Toxic to log on, and told him when he does, it means I'm at the library and then to go to the library to meet me there. So I left the house with Josh on charas, and knowing how to make an account. I'm a fool. When Josh met me at the library computers, he had already made Pop, back then I dident care so much, so went on with what I was doing online. Leaving josh with 2 charas accounts. Pop and Toxic.
When Red came down to my house one day, I met with Josh and we went to the libary, which is why Red me and Pop had the same IP adress once, this also happened a few more times, but I'm not sure how many. But now I have convinced Josh that he cant go back on charas. and so I'm sure this is the end of him.

Pop2: He was done by Josh's younger brother, Sam, Josh gets upset easly and so he always tells his brother about his day, Sam normaly helps Josh stay happy, which is why Sam, who is only 10, Made Pop2 to try and make Josh feel a bit better about being banned. It dident work.

Pop3: This was someone else, I know its not Josh or his brother. Because I was on the phone to Red once, and Pop3 added Red on Msn and started to talk to him, he told me so I got of the phone to Red, and phoned Josh, and Asked What Msn was, he said it was a virus and to ask him for help if i couldent sort it out myself, i hung up and re-phoned Red, knowing pop3 wasent Josh. (I also know as Josh doesent have Broadband so couldent have answered the phone if he was talking to Red on Msn.) But I dont know who it is. Sorry I cant help in this.

Ok, that's pop, pop2 and pop3.

Raffles. Is not Red or me, I dont know this one, I KNOW it's not Red as he wasent here for the last few days, he was in a different country, and away from a computer and as you know Raffles was IM'ing Davis the last few days.

About Red being me and me being Red, this is not true. Ok, Red made my account in the library with me sitting next to him, and on SS he made my profile as I dident have the internet at home and i had lost my library card. But i am not Red. When Red logs on right after me, or me after Red it's because we are family so we stay over each others houses alot. And so use each others computers.

That's all I can think of today. Any questions and I'll happerly answer them.

[Trevlac]

Also, as a very important thing.

The previous topic was locked before any evidence could be presented that Red was NOT Raffles.  This is why this thread was created.  This problem will not just "die" form being locked.  It'll only prupetuate people's curiosity.

[coasterkrazy]

I don't think I was here yet when pop, pop2, and pop3 were around, but it's good that you cleared things up.

[Darkfox]

So there is a possibly connection between pop3 and this mystery person?

[AsakuraHao2004]

Enlightning.

[Trevlac]

Oh, and the person that sent the email to Ace in the other topic proved he is capable of hacking.  So cybercyborg could have been hacked on charas.  Sai says cybercyborg was on charas at that time.  And DF says that AIM screenname ccyborg IM'd me on couldn't have been him.  Since ccyborg can't know of a "Lord Raffles" as he specificly said, (because he's an old member), he must not be ccyborg.

So either they're the same person or the person who emailed Red was bluffing with the IP check thing.  He could have since it's unlikely Red would check to make sure.

[Dragonium]

This is all immensely confusing.

Though I don't believe for a second that Red is or was Raffles. It's ridiculous.

It's been said, but we all need to look to the future of Charas, not the past. Sure, this needs cleaning up, but we can't dwell on it. These people are trying to break up Charas, and we're letting them succeed. We should gain from this, not lose.

Definition of Terrorism: The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against people or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives.

Is it not true that what is going on here, could be counted as Terrorism. They are using force (Sort of) against Charas users, to try and intimidate us and destroy our society, for a sort of ideological objective (Which could apply to Raffles, I don't know).

Meh, Draggy can speculate no longer.

W3rd.

[White Dwarf]

Originally posted by Darkfox
So there is a possibly connection between pop3 and this mystery person?

I only know that pop3 is not Josh or anyone else I know in "real life." So could be anyone.

[WingZero]

I know its not you or Red doing this I guess was the same guy who was trying to make Red look bad in Reains shout box when the java codes were actvive in the sigs.
and by the way the link to the Topic doesn't work  :p

[White Dwarf]

Originally posted by WingZero
and by the way the link to the Topic doesn't work  :p

Ooops. I'll fix that.

[carmen]

oi vey, ok go ahead sherlocks, have your fun. I'm keeping a sharp eye on this though

[Trevlac]

Also, I don't know aobut this, but I think I remember hearing KM say that pop3 was Kairou.  If so, could you tell us, l6?

[Dragonium]

Originally posted by carmen
oi vey, ok go ahead sherlocks, have your fun.

Elementary, my dear Carmen. *Sits in the corner with pipe*

Meh, I hate to say it, but pop3 could be anyone. Anyone can come along, see pop and pop2, see what a mess they made, and go about causing problems. I mean, any minute, "Lord Raffles II" could join Charas, who may not actually be the real Raffles, and cause more trouble, and the whole cycle repeats. I'm keeping an eye on the "Newest Member" thingy from now on.

W3rd.

[Ace of Spades]

>_>         <_<................I'm pop3.

[Trevlac]

I figured it all out!

Raffles is actually ALEX AND RED!

And guess who they are?  TREVLAC!

Darkfox is Ace of Spades and SaiKar!

GhostClown is Carmen!

Razor is Warxe, White, Kairou, and Weregnome!


So what does everyone think?