What the hell is up with parents?

[Trevlac]

Who here has illogical parents?

I certainly do.

You ever make a mistake, tell your parents, and have a plan to fix it?  They don't care do they?  It's all about chewing you out for making the mistake.  You have to sit there and listen to them babble about what you should have done.  It can't be changed you idiots!  We screwed up and now we can fix it!  But that's not good enough for them.  You're already being punished BY your mistake so now they're punishing you FOR your mistake.  Redundant to the very core.  Unecessary.  Totally counterproductive.

Mistakes are an integral part of the learning system of life.  You screw up, you fix it if you can, you move on and try not to do it again.  Parents are stupid:  You screw up, you get yelled at, then punished (grounded, spanked, etc.), then you have to apologize to whomever (if the situation calls for it), THEN you can fix it.  And you better damn well fix it on your own!  Don't help you kids fix it, oh NO, don't even offer advice.  They make no sense.  It's like parents are either Drill Instructor constnantly yelling at you and telling you you're doing stuff wrong, or helicopters hovering over you and making sure you do everything right.  For pie's sake, leave us alone!  If they would try teaching us proper skills in a less annoying way, like being a consultant, maybe kids would turn out better.  They might not want to turn to drugs or run away, or live in prostitution.  Granted that last sentence is taking this a bit too far, the point remains the same: parents piss me off.

Any rebuttals?

[Shady Ultima]

I agree, to one point.

Drug use is not always due to parental problems, and blaming things like that on parents is going to far. Yes, many parents punish you for mistakes, when it would be a better learning experience for them to show what was wrong with it, in a more mature fashion. Of course, it varies depending on age as well. You can't deal with a 5 yr old the same as a 15 yr old, but parents tend to forget this fact.

[DragonBlaze]

I agree completely. After having over a year of driving experiance, my parents won't let me drive into town because (and I qoute) "theres crazy people in appleton". Appleton is a decent sized city, but nothing to brag about. My parents tried using that exuse on me for a long time. Now when I need to run out to town, I just say I'm staying after school to lift wieghts, then instead I drive out there.

I usually don't tell my parents anything anymore because of that, but if the occasion arises, I know my parents well enough to manipulate them into basically doing whatever I want. Don't get me wrong, I don't take advantage of them, I've just rid myself of most of the stupid restrictions that they've set on me. Bad part is that some of my plans take months of setting up.

Example, during the summer, I barely went out. My parents wanted me to go out and do things, and they even forced me to have people over for a bon fire. Well now I go out with my friends almost every day, but now my parents can't say a thing to me about staying home because they pushed so hard into making me go out and do things.

Another thing, my parents don't like it when I drive out to town or do anything without telling them, they even tried yelling at me for stopping by the gas station after school. However, they won't let me get a cell phone, so I just say I couldn't let them no because I had no way to tell them, then they said I should use a pay phone, but then I said I didn't have any change. However much they would like, they can't really do anything to me because its their fault that I couldn't contact them. I use this excuse any time I plan to stay later somewhere or anything like that.

Most of the time tricking your parents into thinking they've won is best choice  

[Black Massacre]

I full heartley agree.

[Osmose]

It all depends on viewpoint. From their point of view, you screwed up somewhere to make the mistake in the first place, and they are scared that the point won't be hammered home if they don't make sure you know that whatever you did was wrong. Depending on parenting style, some will offer advice, some will make you figure it out on your own, and some will take over completely.

And whatever you may think, your parents do not suck.  Just ask David Pelzer.

[DragonBlaze]

It's not that parents suck, if I didn't have them I'd be living in a box somewhere.

Its just that they make stupid dicisions. Parents aren't all knowing, and they make mistakes. They often make arrogent choices and sometimes try to take advantage of their children because they can. Though a lot of times they say its for our good, half the time it really isn't.

Example, in the summer my parents make me mow lawn. I understand that it needs to be done, but they tell me to do it 9 in the morning when the grass is wet and it will plug up the lawn mower. I tell them this but it dosen't make a differance. So I'm outside for 5 hours mowing, and the few times I've come in for water or to go to the bathroom, my dad is sitting on the couch watching TV.

What this tells me, my dad is arrogent and since I'm not an adult, his opinion is always right over mine. And it would be nice if he helped once in a while, or did some sort of work around the house. Something like that isn't meant for our good, its to use us as workers so they don't have to do anything.

Another time I got really pissed off when my parents took advantage of me. We had a basment, it was buring in a foot of dirt because every time it rains mud is brought in through the walls (we have a very old house). On top of that we had piles and piles of junk down there. They said if we (my brother and I) cleaned out the basment, we could do stuff down there like set up some fish tanks, hook up a tv and playstation, put some old furniture down there. So we spent over a month cleaning it up, installing a sub-pump to take care of the mud, painted the walls, and everything. Then once we were all done, my dad said we couldnt' do anything down there because there may be a harmful gas in our basement, which was just a load of B S. Our basement vents through the whole house, so if there was a gas down there, it would be in the rest of the house as well. He just used us to clean out the basement which he has neglected to do since he bought the house 20 years ago. Of course the gas wasn't an issue when we spent hours down there a day cleaning it.

So yeah, my trust in my parents disisions have been shaken, for good reasons.

[WarxePB]

I will not say that you're overreacting, Trev, because you're probably not. But have you tried sitting down with your parents and telling them "Listen, I'm old enough to figure out my own mistakes, I don't need you to punish me"? You likely have, and it didn't work, right? Well, then just stop getting into trouble. You're old enough to realize when something could be dangerous, and you should have developed a decent common sense, so put it to use once in a while!

[Snake Eater]

I think I'm good with my parents. They're nice and understanding, not strict at all, and my mom bought me a Xbox 360 + games + Xbox Live for my Birthday/ Christmas.

[FFL2and3rocks]

My parents punish me for getting a detention at school.

Yep, I get punished for being punished.

[MrMister]

Originally posted by Snake Eater
I think I'm good with my parents. They're nice and understanding, not strict at all, and my mom bought me a Xbox 360 + games + Xbox Live for my Birthday/ Christmas.

You suck! That's like a lot of money! That's like two thirds of a pay check! You are gonna die in the real world! You rich pussy! You little retard! You spoiled little ass burgler! You burgle so much ass! Go die right now! You stupid little spoiled bitch!

There's a difference between not strict and spoiled.
And if they aren't strict, when you leave home you are going to suck.

[Drighton]

Originally posted by Osmose
"Quit bitchin, you got it good."

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
"Grow up."

Originally posted by MrMister
"Your spoiled. Die."

I'm gonna go with the general consensus here. Have a nice day.

[AsakuraHao2004]

Yeah. I stayed out all weekend the other day and my mom called like all my friends trying to find out where I was. It was crazy.

[Ace of Spades]

Originally posted by AsakuraHao2004
Yeah. I stayed out all weekend the other day and my mom called like all my friends trying to find out where I was. It was crazy.

Maybe because she cares about you?

[Drace]

I agree with Ace.

Oh, and Snake. I don't have many problems with my mum (screw dads, who needs them). And if I do, it's because I forgot to walk those damned dogs! Damn you woman! I like cats! Not dogs!!!

[charaman]

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
I will not say that you're overreacting, Trev, because you're probably not. But have you tried sitting down with your parents and telling them "Listen, I'm old enough to figure out my own mistakes, I don't need you to punish me"? You likely have, and it didn't work, right? Well, then just stop getting into trouble. You're old enough to realize when something could be dangerous, and you should have developed a decent common sense, so put it to use once in a while!

With that logic, no grown person should ever make a mistake. Everyone makes mistakes, some parents just need to get a better perspective on a situation.