Dinosaurs in the bible...

[ZeroKirbyX]

Well, its still a possibility Desi. We found fossils of the Coelacanth that dated back millions of years. Then what did fisherman find off of South America? Lo and behold, a coelacanth! So, thers still stuff we dont know of because we havent discovered.

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

I see where you are coming from.

I, myself, am a bit skeptic on how old this earth is.

65 millions years is just too huge of a number (year wise) to exactly convince myself that this earth has been around for that long. With meteorites and all, I mean we are supposed to be hit by a world destroying asteriod in a hundred years from now, so I question myself if that could've happened really between all these supposed millions of years.

However in the Bible it does mention that the eEarth was filled with darkness before God acted upon it. Many things to theorize on.

But you also have to know that the 65 million years is a theory and not fact. Yes I know that other things I've mentioned are too but theories. But we are generally trying to do that here; since we are not going to come up with facts.


EDIT: True to that Kirby.

In essence, there's way more mystery in our waters that in the moon.

We can dig up a lot of answers if we just swim a bit deeper.

[drenrin2120]

My idea was kinda likes Archems. God was experimenting, and when he was done killed them off. But that seems kinda heartless of god, but idk. I wasn't alive 65 million years ago.

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

Who knows it could've been that way.

All i know and believe is that they existed sometime in the past.

How? I don't know XD

Well they still exist today... Crocodiles are dinosaurs, did you not know?!

Also, lochness... We might still have dinosaurs living in our waters.

[drenrin2120]

A lot of things about the bible I skepticise. Especially when you know the history of religion. It's not very pretty. I'm sure I don't know everything, but I really wish I did. I think, mostly hope actually, that when I die the answers will be revealed to me. All of them, I want to know how the universe was created and I refuse to except that some huge explosion came about out of nothing making something. So many hypothesis and theories, so few solid evidence... It's desparing, really. We've come so far only to scratch the surface.

rrr.... It gets me so frustrated. But this is about dinos. I think they existed, of course they existed, we dug up they're friggin' bones! But if they were in the bible, I'd be skeptical, because dinosaurs were onyl discovered within the last two hundred years. Unless god told Jesus about them, I don't see how they'd get into the bible. The answers are out there, maybe the catholic church with holds scrolls, or the location of secret gospels. I have no way of knowing.

[Prpl_Mage]

Well, over here in Sweden the most common religion is protestant-christianity, but we have a couple of islands witch you can only reach by boat, from what I´ve heard they are catholic
s, and pretty strict ones too.
And apperantly the deny every peice of evidence that dinosaurs actually existed(along with everything that say that god doesn´t exist)... They bann TV-shows witch involved dinosaurs and doesn´t let their kids to play with dino-toys.

Originally posted by Kijuki_Magazaki

Well they still exist today... Crocodiles are dinosaurs, did you not know?!

Also, lochness... We might still have dinosaurs living in our waters.

Well, every animal that lays eggs are somewhere along evolution relatives to the dinosaurs. Even the birds are...

[Razor]

Originally posted by Kijuki_Magazaki
65 millions years is just too huge of a number (year wise) to exactly convince myself that this earth has been around for that long. With meteorites and all, I mean we are supposed to be hit by a world destroying asteriod in a hundred years from now, so I question myself if that could've happened really between all these supposed millions of years.

Space is huge. Huger than XBox. There's a microscopic chance of us being hit by a meteor that could destroy us. But there was one big enough to damage the environment for an unsightly amount of time, which brought on the Ice Age. No, not that movie *shudder*

And to make argument about the age of the universe, I did some research on stars and stuff the other year, scientists have a lot of information on time due to spreading out of stuff, stars, and a lot of things.

And I 100% agree with Desi, as far a carbon-dating goes and everything he said on that first page.

[Drace]

Originally posted by drenrin2120
My idea was kinda likes Archems. God was experimenting, and when he was done killed them off. But that seems kinda heartless of god, but idk. I wasn't alive 65 million years ago.

My 'theory' is a bit the same. If God does exist, I think he created the Dinosaurs as his 'first' dominate race. But when the planet got hit by a meteor (or whatever made them extinct), he decided to make his next species more advanced, so they can fight it later on might another meteor (or whatever) come.

If God does not exist, it's simply evolution etc. etc. scientist explanation. Or a mix of both. I mean, did God came down to Earth to write the Bible? Dinosaurs were discovered in the 1900s, there's no way for them in the ol' days to know.

EDIT: I did totally not read Dren's last post.

[Drighton]

I'm pretty sure carbon dating isn't 100% accurate. If i recall, the older an item is the larger the error ratio gets.

When I think about the time difference of a day to humans and a day to God, a few things come to mind. First, people accept the lifespan of a cat being 1 cat year = 7 human years.

I also recall being younger and time going by much slower. A school day used to be FOREVER.

Most people, even on the Simpsons, portray God as a huge person. Following the line of reason, X years = 1 human day doesn't seem unreasonable.

But perhaps it isn't related to size. Age could also have a determining factor. As I mentioned, days fly by now, no matter what I'm doing. My parents will sometimes comment on how the years have flown by (nostalgic period where they think of my childhood). For someone who has lived for who knows how long, God probably sees the centuries fly by like nothing.


My theory about dinosaurs is that God used them to fertilize the Earth before man was created. The Bible doesn't go into detail about His methods of designing the Earth and decorating it, it just says He did. If dinosaurs fit anywhere, its in that first line of the Bible.

Much like the animals today take part in a process to pollinate and spread seed, the dinosaurs would naturally have helped in the same process.

[WarxePB]

I agree with Drighton, that carbon-dating may not be completely accurate. Although, even I doubt that scientists could be off by millions of years with it (unless the method is completely false, that is).

As for dinos... I agree with most of you that the 'days' described in the Bible were way longer. But, as Desi said, that seems kind of like an excuse. So I'm open to pretty much any theory, so long as it doesn't bash my beliefs.

[ZeroKirbyX]

Heres a question: How did they decide that the entire universe was 15 billion years old?

[Drace]

Doesn't it say that in the Bible that (I translated this from the Dutch version): "It turns night and it turns day. The

• day."? Unless the sun took thousands of years to go under and rise again it means that these days are just normal days.

But the Bible has been wrong on other things. The sun going around the earth for example. This IS proven a wrong fact. So what if these 'days' things were more... centuries? Or millenia (correct word?)? Or maybe even million of years?

Scientists say it took a LOOOOONG time for the planet to become what it is today.

First he created the skies and the earth, this could be like the Big Bang theory. This WAS created at first too.

Next he made sure there was water on the planet. According to scientists, there was a period in early Earth years that it rained for a bloody long time.

Next he created light. According to scientists, the Sun was created along with the Earth during the Big Bang. My opinion, why not create light BEFORE working on your lil' planet? Maybe God created the light before the planet. Would be a lot usefuller.

Next he seperated the two water from above with the water from under. Ok, personally, WTF? Does this mean he seperated the sea from the rain? If so, it also fits in with the theories of scientists. Like, it stopped raining after some time. From then it occasionally rained. Thus, the waters are seperated.

Well, you people can fit in the other days for yourself, but if you look it my way, there can be a mix between both God and science.


"What Drace? So all of a sudden you turned more religous?

No you crazy mofu. I believe that there's something out there, either a god or something else, that created us. I just don't believe in the God of Christ or the whole Bible thing.
My "believes" about the creation of everything and all are that a "god" set it all in motion. That evolution is in the plan of this "god". Along with Dinosaurs etc.
Wheter this "god" still exists or not, I don't care. I just think there was some über-creature that set it all in motion.

Who know? We might even be a tv-show for some aliens. Let's just hope we don't get cancelled soon, aye Trey Parker and Matt Stone?

[Sephiroth rocks]

 

Heres a question: How did they decide that the entire universe was 15 billion years old?

Since radiation has a fixed speed (300.000 km/s) you can find out when the radiation was originally sent out from the object by looking at the object's distance. Scientists has found out that it's impossible to look further away than 15 billion light years thus meaning that the radiation from objects further away hasn't reached the earth yet meaning that universe must be 15 billion years old.
Actually if you look at the theories you discover that they're much more well-documented than many thinks. They don't just make stuff up like religions do.

[WarxePB]

Sephy
Actually if you look at the theories you discover that they're much more well-documented than many thinks. They don't just make stuff up like religions do.

Remember that even mythological legends are based in fact. For example, Jesus almost undoubtebly existed, but whether he was actually the Son of God or not is up to debate.

[Desimodontidae]

Originally posted by Sephiroth rocks

quote:

Heres a question: How did they decide that the entire universe was 15 billion years old?

Since radiation has a fixed speed (300.000 km/s) you can find out when the radiation was originally sent out from the object by looking at the object's distance. Scientists has found out that it's impossible to look further away than 15 billion light years thus meaning that the radiation from objects further away hasn't reached the earth yet meaning that universe must be 15 billion years old.
Actually if you look at the theories you discover that they're much more well-documented than many thinks. They don't just make stuff up like religions do.

That is correct, except you mean "light" not "radiation".

Personally, I think much of the bible was left ambiguous purposly. Like reasons such as this, so you can come up with convienient biblical explanations for things that don't seem to fit in the strictly interpretated Bible.

Kind of like how Nostradamus worded his predictions metaphorically, so when something happens that can  kind of  relate, people think "OMG It's just like what Nastradamus predicted!!!11"